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Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

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Just a heads up....anyone who's on Twitter....don't engage with Twisted Tim or Stintson Hunter and give them any info. They are in a process of trying to make another mockumentary against MJ and they are just fishing for details so they can twist it all. They are not on our side and they are not asking for info to "prove MJ is innocent"....they are confident MJ is guilty. So don't engage with them and ignore them and don't help them. They are not doing "fact checking" to do something pro-MJ. Their only motive is to try to paint MJ in a bad light and they are working with Dan Reed.
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Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

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TOMORROW: Gayle King sits down with the Jackson family as they discuss their thoughts on the upcoming HBO documentary "Leaving Neverland," in which two men allege Michael Jackson sexually abused them for years


A sneak peak into Humanitarian - The Real Michael Jackson - The documentary...
Just one wish out of thousands...
Melbourne screening & DVD coming soon...
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another tribute video to MJGlobal family all over the WORLD .. defending our beloved <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> &gt;&gt; <a href="https://t.co/ms5DLpp7yx">https://t.co/ms5DLpp7yx</a> Pls stream Unbreakable &amp; Money ... Each voice makes a ripple --</p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1100465744435806209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Despite it all, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> music sales are increasing!! The MJGlobal family please, CONTINUE to buy, download and/or stream Michael Jackson's UNBREAKABLE and MONEY! Let's get MJ to # 1 This weekend and next! <a href="https://t.co/L6BeRw5ZV4">pic.twitter.com/L6BeRw5ZV4</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1100465379820822528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael told me that his fans are his family....I can now see, more than ever....why he felt this way. &#10084;&#65039;</p>&mdash; Jonathan Moffett (@jmoffettmjm) <a href="https://twitter.com/jmoffettmjm/status/1100421913208188928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/innocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#innocent</a> buses will start making their routes in London this week. If you see one, be sure to take a photo and upload to social media. Use the hashtag shown on the marketing. <a href="https://t.co/6lMykUhlNi">pic.twitter.com/6lMykUhlNi</a></p>&mdash; SmoothEmJay #JusticeForMJ (@roboemjay) <a href="https://twitter.com/roboemjay/status/1100019069892345856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">’Leaving Lies’ is here! The TRUTH about allegations made against Michael Jackson. Watch here:<a href="https://t.co/x9kjeBJ8Wr">https://t.co/x9kjeBJ8Wr</a> <a href="https://t.co/p0zzcqSooD">pic.twitter.com/p0zzcqSooD</a></p>&mdash; MJFinland (@MJFanFinland) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJFanFinland/status/1100094215424495617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wade Robson &amp; James Safechuck should be put in JAIL for perjury... <a href="https://t.co/BGO7BB9kYo">https://t.co/BGO7BB9kYo</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan Moffett (@jmoffettmjm) <a href="https://twitter.com/jmoffettmjm/status/1100217824927047680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJfam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJfam</a> We Chinese fans support Michael and defend Michael's innocence! Nanjing, jiangsu, China! Thanks to a friend in nanjing for providing these photos. <a href="https://t.co/fhHCmrcinZ">pic.twitter.com/fhHCmrcinZ</a></p>&mdash; &#23159;&#23159; (@Jessicalee829) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jessicalee829/status/1100246605159194624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Court judgement. 14 counts NOT GUILTY! 26 years of information out there. read it all! Unreliable witnesses - No proof - Innocent until proven Guilty. <a href="https://t.co/uwEKBpaZPL">https://t.co/uwEKBpaZPL</a></p>&mdash; James Bourne (@JamesBourne) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesBourne/status/1100200224562106369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Leaving Neverland is the Fyre festival of documentaries. You have a big name backing it, blue check marks endorsing it, social media spreading it &amp; an entitled con man steering it. And just like the Fyre festival, it relies heavily on the public’s gullibility to buy into lies.</p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1100433777120096258?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wade Robson allegedly tried to sell off Michael Jackson memorabilia on the low.<a href="https://t.co/bXfigE3blL">https://t.co/bXfigE3blL</a></p>&mdash; HotNewHipHop (@HotNewHipHop) <a href="https://twitter.com/HotNewHipHop/status/1100094507599695872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I knew it! I knew it! Oprah's not only interviewing these 2 liars, but hosting a special screening!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/CH835Z6Xei">https://t.co/CH835Z6Xei</a></p>&mdash; sanemjfan (@sanemjfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/sanemjfan/status/1100476559415263233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marcos works in TV/documentaries and watched the documentary weeks back because he was given a preview. He says that he knows that Wade and Safechuck will receive a percentage of the profits of this documentary because he has seen the document. <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://t.co/po5qbdnMb9">https://t.co/po5qbdnMb9</a></p>&mdash; caramella (@Caramelicedtea) <a href="https://twitter.com/Caramelicedtea/status/1100464199791190019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Oprah again.. big thank to the Estate..
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dan Reed may claim they have ‘no financial interest’ in the documentary - but they do have an ongoing lawsuit demanding hundreds of millions of dollars from Jackson’s Estate.<br><br>Which Reed’s documentary doesn’t even mention. Four hours long and can’t find 5 seconds to mention that. <a href="https://t.co/05VLFyKH9C">https://t.co/05VLFyKH9C</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1100437057284042752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="zh" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> &#28961;&#35542;&#20320;&#22312;&#25110;&#19981;&#22312;&#65292;&#37117;&#19981;&#33021;&#20801;&#35377;&#20219;&#20309;&#20154;&#20570;&#20663;&#23475;&#20320;&#30340;&#20107;&#65292;&#25105;&#20497;&#26371;&#25421;&#34907;&#21040;&#24213;&#65281; <a href="https://t.co/IaUPROslG3">pic.twitter.com/IaUPROslG3</a></p>&mdash; &#23159;&#23159; (@Jessicalee829) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jessicalee829/status/1099931383118458880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/kBiMSUacX3">https://t.co/kBiMSUacX3</a></p>&mdash; DriBrasil (@DriBrasilMJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/DriBrasilMJ/status/1100452599499771905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Listen! He´s been acquitted, he´s been acquitted, he´s been acquitted on all these charges...!&quot; Jermaine on Sunday night 7 plus, Feb. 24, 2019 &#128170;&#128079; <a href="https://t.co/hpTDziwgHB">pic.twitter.com/hpTDziwgHB</a></p>&mdash; Vanja Jackson (@VanjaJackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/VanjaJackson/status/1100217168262823936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The revisionism is hilarious; all the faux hand-wringing by scab ‘journalists’: ‘Did we turn a blind eye due to his fame?’<br><br>A blind eye?! <br><br>The last 20 years of his life were a lynching. They kicked the shit out of him til he was so traumatised he couldn’t sleep without sedation. <a href="https://t.co/ogHv7N6ZWf">https://t.co/ogHv7N6ZWf</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1100448737418190848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">French Channel M6 to broadcast &quot;Leaving Neverland&quot; after all <a href="https://t.co/pqmil8kpsr">https://t.co/pqmil8kpsr</a></p>&mdash; MJVibe (@Mjvibe) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mjvibe/status/1100430833360474114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s my message for faux victims and faux victim enablers. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AbuseIsNotAGame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AbuseIsNotAGame</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> . Read this <a href="https://t.co/TmqTFLLT9d">https://t.co/TmqTFLLT9d</a> <a href="https://t.co/ynHT8VkGbh">pic.twitter.com/ynHT8VkGbh</a></p>&mdash; Damo (@djbaby2009) <a href="https://twitter.com/djbaby2009/status/1100142850186989568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For all those that say to stop playing Michael Jackson, I’ve made myself a playlist in response to Leaving Neverland so I can play certain song EVEN MORE! His voice and his answers are in these songs and I intend to continue elevating them! <a href="https://t.co/ZeCYlPOFXb">pic.twitter.com/ZeCYlPOFXb</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1100447217951887360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These charlatans have NOTHING to give, or leave to this world. They will die spiritually destitute. Michael was a gift to this planet. He gave his heart and soul to others and the entire planet. He will be remembered and missed every moment of everyday...forever.</p>&mdash; Karen Faye (@wingheart) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart/status/1100197452991193089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chinese fans in Zhengzhou, Henan province rally for Michael Jackson! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> China power continues... <a href="https://t.co/Vd0j2RzkLm">pic.twitter.com/Vd0j2RzkLm</a></p>&mdash; Keen Zhang (@mkgenie) <a href="https://twitter.com/mkgenie/status/1100332961436594176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/tjjackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tjjackson</a> It seems Robson has opened up a twitter account, I'm blocking him...to not give him the satisfaction of reading anything we speak of. I hope nobody even acknowledges him, he'll use it against us, I do not trust him. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TruthBeTold?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TruthBeTold</a></p>&mdash; Joanne Davies (@jo12jo12) <a href="https://twitter.com/jo12jo12/status/1100431130753490945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFamUNITE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFamUNITE</a><br><br>Thank you Michael &#10084; <a href="https://t.co/WRFPnBVU8a">pic.twitter.com/WRFPnBVU8a</a></p>&mdash; Justice for Michael NOW (@justiceforMJnow) <a href="https://twitter.com/justiceforMJnow/status/1100406411391954945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is so comical to me. Be kind to the author but don’t worry about these liars who’ve been trying to get $ at the expense of my beloved uncle. Who did nothing but gave to the world his entire life! Don’t worry about my family (esp. his kids) but be kind to the author. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sad</a> <a href="https://t.co/atiySLqrNo">https://t.co/atiySLqrNo</a></p>&mdash; TJ Jackson (@tjjackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/tjjackson/status/1100136206392647681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson’s name, art and legacy will live on forever. The accusers and con artists will disappear into obscurity when we stop saying their names.</p>&mdash; Karen Faye (@wingheart) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart/status/1100114047805009920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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Sure Dan Reed, keep telling yourself that. They didn't get any money and aren't in it for the money he says once again, sure dude.

Oh and Oprah huh, it took her a while to respond and I was slightly hoping this meant she wasn't gonna get meddle into it. She clearly is, who was I kidding, of course she is. It's frustrating as hell that we just can't do anything, except for what we've constantly been doing. These two liars can just go on shows, show their ugly heads, spread some more lies and they know damn well what the truth is.

If you can do this to a person that you have held in such high regard, you're just rotten, rotten to the core. I truly hope things will start to look up soonish.
 
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Sure Dan Reed, keep telling yourself that. They didn't get any money and aren't in it for the money he says once again, sure dude.

Oh and Oprah huh, it took her a while to respond and I was slightly hoping this meant she wasn't gonna get meddle into it. She clearly is, who was I kidding, of course she is. It's frustrating as hell that we just can't do anything, except for what we've constantly been doing. These two liars can just go on shows, show their ugly heads, spread some more lies and they know damn well what the truth is.

If you can do this to a person that you have held in such high regard, you're just rotten, rotten to the core. I truly hope things will start to look up soonish.
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Facts don't lie, people do. Sometimes, hopefully, truth will prevail, for Mike.
 
Oprah can go to hell. She puts on a big act like she is nice and all. The truth is it’s all a show and she is a rotten person. My sister in-law was a stuartress for a airline I won’t mention years ago and had to wait on her the entire flight. She said she was the rudest biiiiitch she has ever met. Not a please or thank you came out of her mouth. Spoke to her like she was just a servant and not a person. I kept it clean on what she said about her but you can read between the lines.
 
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TOMORROW: Gayle King sits down with the Jackson family as they discuss their thoughts on the upcoming HBO documentary "Leaving Neverland," in which two men allege Michael Jackson sexually abused them for
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Seriously couldn't they find someone else to sit down with. It's getting ridiculous the amount of air time this crap is getting. They haven't even seen the crap how are they going to be able to identify the lies and inconsistencies.

King and Oprah seriously piss me off, bunch of hypocrites.
 
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This documentary hasn't even aired yet and I'm already sick of the controversy.
A guy in traffic heard me playing Another Part Of Me and he said I was a vile paedophile supporter and asked if I hadn't heard Michael Jackson was cancelled
So I turned it up, told him he was wrong and told him mind his business in, in a less polite manner shall we say

I feel like I've woken up into a nightmare were you don't need evidence for a conviction. The world has gone mad I swear
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Wow things aren't that bad here at all. Canada has barely had any press over this but Im sure its coming. MJ is still being played on our radio stations daily here.

The UK and Australia have been in full blown anti MJ mode, with the US to follow with this stupid Dan Reed interview on CBS. This is not good guys.
 
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Seriously couldn't they find someone else to sit down with. It's getting ridiculous the amount of air time this crap is getting. They haven't even seen the crap how are they going to be able to identify the lies and inconsistencies.

King and Oprah seriously piss me off, bunch of hypocrites.
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Mo'Nique did try to warn the world about Oprah and others. I sensed she was fake years ago. She's a part of that Weinstein train too. Trouble is, a lot people are now waking up and doing research now. The light is shining brighter than ever.
 
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Website Hotnewhiphop has a article about the maid. She was "terrified" of MJ. Of course this website hasn't covered the news about the estate suing HBO at all, sigh. Anyway...

I need a good short and strong summary of McManus. Can someone help me out a little with that?
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"Adrian McManus, one time neverland maid was fired then, sued Michael Jackson for wrongful termination and lost, owing Michael Jackson $1.6 million in court costs. And most importantly, McManus was convicted of STEALING from Jackson, owing $35,000 court ordered. " McManus has still not paid!

In 2005, MJ's defense attorney Thomas Mesereau asked Adrian McManus how many times she'd lied under oath, she told the court, "The whole time," she said. "I believe I didn't tell the truth."

As we know all know, selling a fake story to the media gives you easy $$$ at no risk Telling a fake story in court makes makes you a perjurer, which is the reason all the vultures lying about MJ was destroyed in court. Now with MJ dead they are back for another payday!

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It's like we fans must do the professional journalism here, by bringing up authenical facts, statements and quotes from documents, legal papers, books and video material. While Dan Reed as a laughable joke journalist come up with any frivolous claims without backing up evidence and media like King and Oprah just swallows all his claims as the truth and factual statement. All of these facts we have about these three axis of evil must come at a much larger media platform, it feels like we are spreading these facts up to no good through Twitter. If we only had video documentary in a place that is of large magnitude as LN, that could be broadcast into popular TV channel, that would really help, just like the Take 2 rebuttal documentary: The footage you were never meant to see.

I really hope that Taj will expose the liars with all the material he has put through on Twitter with the upcoming interview. All about Cirque de Soleil, Brandi J, Juliens Auction, 1.5 bn dollar lawsuit and so on.
 
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The Oprah show tomorrow is going to be a total nightmare. Get ready for the North American version of this horror show to begin. CBS interviews , Oprah special.... this will spread to MILLIONS of Americans and Canadians. So far its been mostly in the UK and Australia. But now its coming here, what a total fiasco.
 
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
I find it truly remarkable and pathetic at the same time that we're once again dealing with this sad individual, the maid. She says it herself, I wouldn't have thought to ever be here. Well nobody asked you to do that you no good POS. And on top of that we have some people falling for it too. This just shows that they really don't know the slightest about the MJ case in general.

I think I'm gonna click that YouTube link to that show that had the maid on there. I'll post a brief summary of facts and then I'm done with that. I am not about to spend more time on this bitch. She was "terrified" of Michael she said, please just crawl back into that hole and never come back.

You can't make this shit up.
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Not necessary, I already made a FULL transcript of the 60 minutes show with the maid, Adrian. You can read the transcript in the separate thread below:

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ralia-with-Adrian-McManus-and-Thomas-Mesereau
 
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michael555 said:
Facts don't lie, people do. Sometimes, hopefully, truth will prevail, for Mike.
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I really hope so too. But it's gonna be a very bumpy and long ride until we get there by the looks of it. Kinda wish we could just skip some time really.

volitional said:
Seriously couldn't they find someone else to sit down with. It's getting ridiculous the amount of air time this crap is getting. They haven't even seen the crap how are they going to be able to identify the lies and inconsistencies.

King and Oprah seriously piss me off, bunch of hypocrites.
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Yeah you're right. I certainly have very little faith in the Jacksons to descredit any of these liars. They just don't seem as up to date as we fans. It might sound arrogant but it sure as hell looks like that when we hear what Jermaine replies with for example.

Carmour260 said:
Mo'Nique did try to warn the world about Oprah and others. I sensed she was fake years ago. She's a part of that Weinstein train too. Trouble is, a lot people are now waking up and doing research now. The light is shining brighter than ever.
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Who's she? And what did she say about Oprah? But yeah, that picture of her on a boat with Geffen and her sidekick watching LN for her birthday....how could I have been so stupid to maybe expect her to stick up for MJ or at least remain objective. She did speak to Lisa after all, it seemed genuine. She's a goddamn snake.

Lightbringer said:
"Adrian McManus, one time neverland maid was fired then, sued Michael Jackson for wrongful termination and lost, owing Michael Jackson $1.6 million in court costs. And most importantly, McManus was convicted of STEALING from Jackson, owing $35,000 court ordered. " McManus has still not paid!

In 2005, MJ's defense attorney Thomas Mesereau asked Adrian McManus how many times she'd lied under oath, she told the court, "The whole time," she said. "I believe I didn't tell the truth."

As we know all know, selling a fake story to the media gives you easy $$$ at no risk Telling a fake story in court makes makes you a perjurer, which is the reason all the vultures lying about MJ was destroyed in court. Now with MJ dead they are back for another payday!

https://michaeljacksonvindication2....hqI9Uq9y-w7bOZSI0CXXoI1LEYZOYVzWde-l1Lvue_tvI
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Yeah it's unbelievable that they just can come back for that payday. This shit should not be allowed. Just imagine if the media had actually informed the people about the cross examination. Nah of course not, let's invite her actually, sigh.

travis3000 said:
The Oprah show tomorrow is going to be a total nightmare. Get ready for the North American version of this horror show to begin. CBS interviews , Oprah special.... this will spread to MILLIONS of Americans and Canadians. So far its been mostly in the UK and Australia. But now its coming here, what a total fiasco.
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Yeah this is undoubtedly going to reach far. How ****ing pathetic to make a special out of it. It's so crystal clear that they want to put as much attention on next week as possible. Oprah who was invited to Michael's house in the 90s,who at times seemed to actually care about the truth. For someone like Oprah it really doesn't take a lot to find factual information on W&S, I guess she's just as hell bent on destroying MJ as everyone else in the media after all.

Lightbringer said:
Not necessary, I already made a FULL transcript of the 60 minutes show with the maid, Adrian. You can read the transcript in the separate thread below:

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ralia-with-Adrian-McManus-and-Thomas-Mesereau
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Ah you misunderstood me :)

I meant that I wanted to post a summary of facts about McManus in the YouTube comment section. But that comment section wasn't available.
 
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"Who's she? And what did she say about Oprah? But yeah, that picture of her on a boat with Geffen and her sidekick watching LN for her birthday....how could I have been so stupid to maybe expect her to stick up for MJ or at least remain objective. She did speak to Lisa after all, it seemed genuine. She's a goddamn snake."

Mo'Nique is an actress/comedian here in America. She won an Oscar for her role in the movie "Precious" back in 2010. Oprah, Lee Daniels and Tyler Perry endorsed the film. From what went on behind the scenes, Mo'Nique, Oprah, Lee and Tyler had a few words. Needless to day, she's been blacklisted ever since then and now Lee's world is crumbling from the Jussie Smollett affair, Oprah being fake, Mo'Nique wasn't wrong after all.
 
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where is Ivy?
 
Imagine if Robson and Safechuck got put up for perjury. They'd have two options:

  • Admit they lied in '93/'05 and go to prison; or
  • Admit they're lying now and ruin their personal lives.
Either way, they'd be done.

Also, it's hilarious that Reed continues to insist that neither Robson nor Safechuck are receiving money for Leaving Neverland, yet all three have been on a press circuit that's rounding out with a ****ing Oprah Winfrey interview, while Robson has been using his "return to dance after an extended emotional hiatus" to book choreography jobs and magazine covers.

Oh, and they're also still litigating their lawsuit appeals against the Estate.

The world has gone ****ing crazy.

Very.b;4243208 said:
No please don’t mention Antony Pellicano, he is another traitor who turned his back on Michael, I don’t remember the storyline now but I am sure that at one point he changed the game.
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To my understanding, Pellicano didn't do anything. He left Michael's legal team in '93 because he was asked to tone down his rather aggressive investigative tactics, but he clarified that it had nothing to do with any presumed guilt. He's also one of only two people (that I'm aware of) who got Jordan Chandler to admit that the entire thing was a sham.

We've gotta hit the lynch mob with everything we've got. We know they're going to attempt to discredit us no matter what, so we need to create hurdles for them so their mental gymnastics are on full display.
 
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travis3000 said:
Wow things aren't that bad here at all. Canada has barely had any press over this but Im sure its coming. MJ is still being played on our radio stations daily here.

The UK and Australia have been in full blown anti MJ mode, with the US to follow with this stupid Dan Reed interview on CBS. This is not good guys.
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I've seen lots of people saying how full swing it is in the UK, I've seen headlines on Google but that's due to my cookies, no one I know has heard anything, we are here constantly reading and searching so we are feeling every line of ever post and print, it's a disgrace but the FACTS are out there waiting to be exposed, people know the press lie to us, we have Twitter, Facebook and Instagram with facts and rebuttals coming 100 to every 1 negative post, it's upsetting and scary but we need to stay strong
 
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Carmour260 said:
"Who's she? And what did she say about Oprah? But yeah, that picture of her on a boat with Geffen and her sidekick watching LN for her birthday....how could I have been so stupid to maybe expect her to stick up for MJ or at least remain objective. She did speak to Lisa after all, it seemed genuine. She's a goddamn snake."

Mo'Nique is an actress/comedian here in America. She won an Oscar for her role in the movie "Precious" back in 2010. Oprah, Lee Daniels and Tyler Perry endorsed the film. From what went on behind the scenes, Mo'Nique, Oprah, Lee and Tyler had a few words. Needless to day, she's been blacklisted ever since then and now Lee's world is crumbling from the Jussie Smollett affair, Oprah being fake, Mo'Nique wasn't wrong after all.
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I see. Yep, she was right after all.

Also, what is this shit about how there are tickets available for actual victims and that they can bring a family member? This shit is so goddamn sickening. Please let there be a hell for all these people because man... do they deserve to rot there, all of them.

I don't know about you guys but this stuff is really ruining my overall mood on a daily basis now. Last week when the news came about the estate suing HBO it felt fantastic, I noticed how my mood instantly switched to incredibly cheery and almost some kind of empowered feeling. I just hope we get more of that. Hope "our side" will have some very positive things to look forward to soon.

And I still stand by what I said, I really do hope that rebuttal documentary will be coming sooner rather than later, but we have no idea how far along it is now. I firmly believe that a well made doc similar to the good ones on Netflix could be huge. Cover all bases, all accusers, all the lying ass pieces of trash like McManus (so that this worthless hunk of meat can never do this kind of crap again). We don't know how big the impact will be of snake ass Oprah tomorrow but a well made doc could make a big change I'm sure.

I have no idea if it would be a good idea to include Paris, Blanket and Prince in there, really depending on if they want to be part of it, but man... it sure is needed.

Time will tell eh?
 
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Gayle King was just sitting with Dan Reed, now she's going to sit with the Jacksons.. I get 'fair' publicity but I don't forget that she already watched the documentary and is playing dumb..

Why not ask the hard questions when Dan sat in front of you? Don't just get people on TV for your personal ratings, have some meaning behind your substance.
 
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I have never had an urge to scream so loud in all my life - yet if I did - I feel I wouldn't be heard.

How is Reed & Co managing to deceive the general public without the documentary even airing yet? The PR machine behind this is a force which is almost impenetrable. There is not one shred of balance any no-one is even contemplating challenging the obvious inconsistencies with these allegations. Is it a case that we as a society are too frightened to interrogate allegations due to their sensitive nature - therefore we're inclined to accept them at face value? If this is the case then humanity is doomed!!

Reed insists that this documentary wasn't about MJ however his latest campaign has been satuarated with an agenda to question how we should feel about MJ's legacy. If that isn't instigating then I don't know what is. The whole thing is deplorable! I can't say I'm surprised but the blatant mis-information the media are perpetuating is beyond wreckless.

I feel absolutely awful for MJ's kids as no family member - famous or not - should be subjected to such a public cruxifiction. To have lurid details feature so provocatively in a documentary is unethetical in my opinion. This belongs firmly in a court setting.

My only hope is that the media are going along with this story to cash in - knowing that it's BS - to then to eventually expose them to further exploit the controversey.

Surely there has to be one decent media outlet that will champion the other side of the story?

**Also - just to reiterate. Please resist the urge to message Robson on his new twitter account. It's a blatent move on his part to attract bad attention to himself to later use this to fuel his arguement that MJ fans will blindly defend him. I've already been on his account and there are a number of fans already throwing abuse his way which is EXACTLY what he wants. It's not a good look and will not do us any favours. Continue to fight with facts but verbal abuse will have the opposite impact**



 
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See Jordan what YOUR LIE CREATED.
 
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SeeingVoices said:
I have never had an urge to scream so loud in all my life - yet if I did - I feel I wouldn't be heard.

How is Reed & Co managing to deceive the general public without the documentary even airing yet? The PR machine behind this is a force which is almost impenetrable. There is not one shred of balance any no-one is even contemplating challenging the obvious inconsistencies with these allegations. Is it a case that we as a society are too frightened to interrogate allegations due to their sensitive nature - therefore we're inclined to accept them at face value? If this is the case then humanity is doomed!!

Reed insists that this documentary wasn't about MJ however his latest campaign has been satuarated with an agenda to question how we should feel about MJ's legacy. If that isn't instigating then I don't know what is. The whole thing is deplorable! I can't say I'm surprised but the blatant mis-information the media are perpetuating is beyond wreckless.

I feel absolutely awful for MJ's kids as no family member - famous or not - should be subjected to such a public cruxifiction. To have lurid details feature so provocatively in a documentary is unethetical in my opinion. This belongs firmly in a court setting.

My only hope is that the media are going along with this story to cash in - knowing that it's BS - to then to eventually expose them to further exploit the controversey.

Surely there has to be one decent media outlet that will champion the other side of the story?

**Also - just to reiterate. Please resist the urge to message Robson on his new twitter account. It's a blatent move on his part to attract bad attention to himself to later use this to fuel his arguement that MJ fans will blindly defend him. I've already been on his account and there are a number of fans already throwing abuse his way which is EXACTLY what he wants. It's not a good look and will not do us any favours. Continue to fight with facts but verbal abuse will have the opposite impact**
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I'm with you. All that time, I kept posting things like "It'll be fine." There are times I wanna scream as well, cuss some fools out, but what good will that do? That's like stooping to their level. I will still take the high road, and blast Michael's music everywhere I go. Continue to sing his songs during karaoke time. There are still plenty of great people out there. Nowadays, people want notoriety, their 15 minutes of fame. They did it to Michael Jackson, they did it to Whitney Houston, they did it to Barack Obama, haters will come and go, but the impact Michael made all over the world is not going anywhere anytime soon!
 
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