Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks for the pic! Another US billboard spotted! Please anyone who sees them take a pic and post with my name attached so I can update MJINNOCENT campaign pages! &#128591;&#10084;&#65039; <a href="https://t.co/Mp7LPxA2rH">pic.twitter.com/Mp7LPxA2rH</a></p>&mdash; Jen (@All4LoveJen) <a href="https://twitter.com/All4LoveJen/status/1104473593507807232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">United Kingdom<br><br>iTunes:<br>#196 Billie Jean<br><br>iTunes Albums:<br>#24 Number Ones <br>#78 The Essential Michael Jackson <br>#82 HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I <br>#160 Thriller<br><br>iTunes Videos<br>#2 Thriller<br><br>Apple Music Albums:<br>#50 Number Ones <br>#124 Thriller<br>#139 Bad <a href="https://t.co/gRXKbdIRAO">pic.twitter.com/gRXKbdIRAO</a></p>&mdash; The Best of Internet (@TheBestofMJJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBestofMJJ/status/1104567066751918081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Netherlands stands behind <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/gWHawnLFV3">pic.twitter.com/gWHawnLFV3</a></p>&mdash; MJB (@myskippy) <a href="https://twitter.com/myskippy/status/1104048348405862400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the Michael Jackson the press is trying to erase. They want to push a bad image of him but just know his heart was gold. He gave to EVERYONE. They spun a “grooming” theme but it’s called empathy and caring for EVERYONE. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/philantropist?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#philantropist</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/giveback?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#giveback</a> <a href="https://t.co/V76YagSw3l">pic.twitter.com/V76YagSw3l</a></p>&mdash; TJ Jackson (@tjjackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/tjjackson/status/1104470142505775111?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My little house and my little protest and I live on a busy street. A lot of people in cars or walking by have slowed down to look or read.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnoccent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnoccent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/New?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#New</a> Zealand <a href="https://t.co/W0j8kxn7Y4">pic.twitter.com/W0j8kxn7Y4</a></p>&mdash; Tanz10 (@Tanz103) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tanz103/status/1104557540665262080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On my train last night, a woman in the seat behind me was talking about LN on the phone &amp; said “He was always around little boys and...” I leant over the back of the seat and said “really?” &amp; showed her this &#128071;&#127995; - we ended up sitting together &amp; I explained the facts to her. <a href="https://t.co/lzRYKq1HT4">pic.twitter.com/lzRYKq1HT4</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1104664636106907649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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The Me Too movement has led to the media in particular of believing accusers. There has been a high profile case in the last couple of years in the UK of singer Cliff Richard (he is less well known in America). He was accused of abuse. The Police kept the case open for around 2 years without charging or even arresting him. There was even some collusion between the Police and the BBC which meant that the search of his home was broadcast live on TV. Eventually the Police dropped the case and Cliff successfully sued the BBC.

I only mention this case because I see this story today on the BBC website that Cliff is giving his support to victims of false accusations. This is important as the reality that there are many false accusers needs to be back on the agenda.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47502383.
Thanks for sharing this information (I sort of live in a bubble, so I missed this news about Cliff Richard - fortunately may I add).

I find the role of BBC (and other "respected" media) in these cases very alarming. BBC always meant credibility, quality TV (and Attenborough :heart:) for me, so witnessing them engaging in pure sensationalism (e.g. live broadcast of the search of Richard's home?!) without basic fact-checking or integrity is baffling. Especially when compared to their shameful handling of the Savile case (closing their eyes to his conduct for years and then basically trying to cover up for him).

It's really like they - either deliberately or from sheer ignorance - end up protecting the real criminals and falsely accusing the innocents.

At least it's great Cliff Richard sued the BBC and won. Sadly few seems to be able to draw the lesson from these cases.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This Time Around podcast featuring myself <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Pezjax</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/MayahCamara?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MayahCamara</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/ghxstofjealousy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ghxstofjealousy</a> We got together to highlight the facts that are not being shown by the media. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/8iy9g53neu">https://t.co/8iy9g53neu</a></p>&mdash; Louise (@lmcoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/lmcoo/status/1104382283715366912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Retweet John Ziegler’s tweet MJfam. They are trying to hide Brandi’s 7+year relationship with Wade. We will not let them hide the truth. Make sure to retweet John’s tweet and not mine! <a href="https://t.co/yY6DENnlkG">https://t.co/yY6DENnlkG</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1104544660544843776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aussie <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> Tune in to <a href="https://twitter.com/nova969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nova969</a> tomorrow morning. I’ll be chatting to <a href="https://twitter.com/fitzyandwippa?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fitzyandwippa</a> about <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeveland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeveland</a></p>&mdash; Paul Dwyer (@PauliDee) <a href="https://twitter.com/PauliDee/status/1104703637547175936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brandi Jackson was an awesome/important interview, but I just listened to <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> &amp; if you are looking for a broader analysis (that you literally can’t get anywhere else) of why <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> is not credible, this one really is also a must-listen: <a href="https://t.co/sj91iS5OL2">https://t.co/sj91iS5OL2</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1104626931511652352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjfam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjfam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJCast?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJCast</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CEThomson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/lavellesmithjr_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@lavellesmithjr_</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJAP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJAP</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DespicableDrew?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DespicableDrew</a> Please spread this far and wide. The FBI interviewed about their investigations. They even followed him to the Phillipenes. <a href="https://t.co/Z1ARs1o9xz">pic.twitter.com/Z1ARs1o9xz</a></p>&mdash; Linux Fan (@tuxcrazy) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuxcrazy/status/1104449719483465731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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I know that MJ facts posted a video about LaToya a few days ago.
Maybe they send it to a few tabloids?!

Oh, MJFacts, good lord. And of course the media reports on it, even when it has been totally proven false and to be lies. The real story is out there. Do we have a video where all this is debunked? I want to post this in reply to people.
 
When i open Chrome browser on my phone I see a list of new articles and Metro is posting about Latoya during the early nineties. HOWWWWWW?

Didn't any actual mainstream media source cover the news that this was all lies and that she was being abused herself? How is this possible?

People seem to forget that her husband at the time, Jack Gordon, was beating the holy shit out of her and forcing her to say things about not only her brother, but also her parents as well.
 
People seem to forget that her husband at the time, Jack Gordon, was beating the holy shit out of her and forcing her to say things about not only her brother, but also her parents as well.

Yep. But that's also because the media only brings this out and not those facts. It's just typically what the media always does.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/NhxeLrZoaS">pic.twitter.com/NhxeLrZoaS</a></p>&mdash; Karen Faye (@wingheart) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart/status/1104423738336899072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICYMI?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICYMI</a>: Despite backlash, Michael Jackson ONE at Mandalay Bay goes on with continued support <a href="https://t.co/QCliacIXV1">https://t.co/QCliacIXV1</a> <a href="https://t.co/97AafmdvS4">pic.twitter.com/97AafmdvS4</a></p>&mdash; FOX5 Las Vegas (@FOX5Vegas) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOX5Vegas/status/1104456823027978240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unlike Savile, everyone who worked with Michael Jackson spoke well of him. He was a gentle, child like soul. If he was this kind of paedo I suspect more credible accusers. None. No credible accusers.</p>&mdash; Steve Brookstein (@stevebrookstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/stevebrookstein/status/1103994811122675712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My city radio playlist <a href="https://twitter.com/1039WDKX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@1039WDKX</a> this morning repping the king! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> long live KING <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/7RIW2AXk1H">pic.twitter.com/7RIW2AXk1H</a></p>&mdash; Spooky Black&#128065;*&#128488; (@EpicL86) <a href="https://twitter.com/EpicL86/status/1104402651297562625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I see what you guys did here. Thank you for exposing Wade's lies. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJacksonInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJacksonInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/ShxQ1wc1Gf">https://t.co/ShxQ1wc1Gf</a></p>&mdash; Blues Away (@SpeechlessMJJ16) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpeechlessMJJ16/status/1104540949034733569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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When i open Chrome browser on my phone I see a list of new articles and Metro is posting about Latoya during the early nineties. HOWWWWWW?

Didn't any actual mainstream media source cover the news that this was all lies and that she was being abused herself? How is this possible?

Metro is owned by the daily fail.
 
GOOD NEWS:

"MICHAEL JACKSON AND WADE ROBSON: THE TRUE STORY"

HAS NOW OVER 1,1 MILLION VIEWS!

Thats a good sighn!
Before the LN airing on HBO it had over 600 000 views.
So the people do their resarch and care about the truth!
 
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GOOD NEWS:

"MICHAEL JACKSON AND WADE ROBSON: THE TRUE STORY"

HAS NOW OVER 1,1 MILLION VIEWS!

Thats a good sighn!
Before the LN airing on HBO it had over 600 000 views.
So the people do their resarch and care about the truth!

That's incredible. That's more views than one part of the documentary itself got, and this will continue to get viewers as time goes on.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Money&quot; — Spotify Update: 8/3/2019<br><br>&#127758; Global: 3,573,566 (+20,254)</p>&mdash; Michael Jackson Charts (@MJJCharts) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJCharts/status/1104539977004863488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a> interview completely obliterates the credibility of Wade Robson in his claims against <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> .. <br>MJ's neice <a href="https://twitter.com/BJackson82?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BJackson82</a> is the trojan horse mainstream media is protecting against. She must be heard! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InternationalWomensDay?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#InternationalWomensDay</a> <a href="https://t.co/ewwlQAjBed">https://t.co/ewwlQAjBed</a></p>&mdash; Ed Durden (@777rellirhtjjm) <a href="https://twitter.com/777rellirhtjjm/status/1104584389239980033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exclusive Interview: Michael Jackson’s Niece, Who Dated Leaving Neverland Star Wade Robson, Explains Why She’s Sure He’s Lying (By senior columnist <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a>) <a href="https://t.co/NbKDlngMBQ">https://t.co/NbKDlngMBQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/7JhmqDrFPL">pic.twitter.com/7JhmqDrFPL</a></p>&mdash; Mediaite (@Mediaite) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1104534979667734529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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Michael Jackson’s songs shoot up the charts in New Zealand after Leaving Neverland airs around the world

Despite the release of documentary Leaving Neverland which revealed explosive child sex abuse claims, a handful of Michael Jackson albums are rocketing up the charts globally.

According to Newshub, New Zealand's iTunes albums chart features two of Jackson's records in the current top 100, with his Number Ones greatest hits coming in at number 41.

In the United Kingdom, the Independent reported the same album climbing as high as number 23 on their iTunes albums chart on Saturday.
 
Paris78;4248125 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Money&quot; — Spotify Update: 8/3/2019<br><br>&#127758; Global: 3,573,566 (+20,254)</p>&mdash; Michael Jackson Charts (@MJJCharts) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJCharts/status/1104539977004863488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a> interview completely obliterates the credibility of Wade Robson in his claims against <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> .. <br>MJ's neice <a href="https://twitter.com/BJackson82?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BJackson82</a> is the trojan horse mainstream media is protecting against. She must be heard! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InternationalWomensDay?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#InternationalWomensDay</a> <a href="https://t.co/ewwlQAjBed">https://t.co/ewwlQAjBed</a></p>&mdash; Ed Durden (@777rellirhtjjm) <a href="https://twitter.com/777rellirhtjjm/status/1104584389239980033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exclusive Interview: Michael Jackson’s Niece, Who Dated Leaving Neverland Star Wade Robson, Explains Why She’s Sure He’s Lying (By senior columnist <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a>) <a href="https://t.co/NbKDlngMBQ">https://t.co/NbKDlngMBQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/7JhmqDrFPL">pic.twitter.com/7JhmqDrFPL</a></p>&mdash; Mediaite (@Mediaite) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1104534979667734529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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Michael Jackson’s songs shoot up the charts in New Zealand after Leaving Neverland airs around the world

Despite the release of documentary Leaving Neverland which revealed explosive child sex abuse claims, a handful of Michael Jackson albums are rocketing up the charts globally.

According to Newshub, New Zealand's iTunes albums chart features two of Jackson's records in the current top 100, with his Number Ones greatest hits coming in at number 41.

In the United Kingdom, the Independent reported the same album climbing as high as number 23 on their iTunes albums chart on Saturday.

Soooooooooo good! This kind of news just makes me scream out and say YEAAAAAAAAH BOYYYYY.

I wonder if those are fans or also just general listeners. I can't imagine that anyone that believes these liars would go "Hmmm I AM very curious about his songs now."

But it's definitely possible that these are new listeners that started seeing the light after LN.
 
Please keep always now an eye on the "Pink Channel" in the next days where Leaving Neverland is uploaded and The oprah interview and gets more and more viewers.
Over 200 000 for part one and two now.

Inform every viewer who is in the comment sections about the lies which are in this movie!

They have LN uploaded there in two parts and in one part
There are also many other channels who have uploaded LN.
Try to not give the videos a view when it is possible.
I think when you stop it directly when you click on it the view will not count!

Report the uploads to youtube cause the content is not for children!
 
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I’m a new member I joined this forum last January so I’m not in a position to say or ask anything, but you are a very disrespectful person even mention the name “jxxxx” is an insult, our nerves are a little frayed lately and you’re not helping, what you wrote is extremely serious but you move on like it was nothing, I don’t think I read your apologize, count to 100 before write this isn’t your home where you can also be rude, in other words if someone complaint try to keep silent.
 
Can we just do something already about Dan Reed? Check this here tweet from Thomson.

I see Dan Reed has deleted his tweet where he couldn’t tell the difference between different members of the Jackson family. Because ‘they all look the same’, right?
 
And Dan Reed had a tweet yesterday where he posted a picture of MJ as a boy and then a picture from I believe Invincible era. With the text "the brexit of pop music."

As unprofessional as it gets this piece of shit.
 
please keep always now an eye on the "pink channel" in the next days where leaving neverland is uploaded and the oprah interview and gets more and more viewers.
Over 200 000 for part one and two now.

Inform every viewer who is in the comment sections about the lies which are in this movie!

They have ln uploaded there in two parts and in one part
there are also many other channels who have uploaded ln.
Try to not give the videos a view when it is possible.
I think when you stop it directly when you click on it the view will not count!

Report the uploads to youtube cause the content is not for children!

Sadly 90 percent of the viewers in comment section of the pink channel belive the storys they are telling in LN!

I still have no youtube account at the moment! ?
 
Sorry but really take the time and report every LN upload to Youtube!
This content is not for children!
NUMBLA -child pornogrophie phantasies should not have a place on YouTube!
 
Just saw a tweet that a site called Slate has said MJ defenders are starting to sound like conspiracy theorists. I did reply to those total numbskulls. Again actual facts about both losers.

WE are the conspiracy theorists? I mean......

BRUH!!!!
 
And Dan Reed had a tweet yesterday where he posted a picture of MJ as a boy and then a picture from I believe Invincible era. With the text "the brexit of pop music."

As unprofessional as it gets this piece of shit.
He will be the Brexit before MJ. MJ aint going no where. Like I said, be careful in digging ditches, it maybe your own Dan.
 
Just saw a tweet that a site called Slate has said MJ defenders are starting to sound like conspiracy theorists. I did reply to those total numbskulls. Again actual facts about both losers.

WE are the conspiracy theorists? I mean......

BRUH!!!!
Again, some people make a living starting trash online. Good thinking people listen, people like that are out for drama.
 
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Can we just do something already about Dan Reed? Check this here tweet from Thomson.

I see Dan Reed has deleted his tweet where he couldn’t tell the difference between different members of the Jackson family. Because ‘they all look the same’, right?

oh wow
stunned
that is so wrong on every level
 
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