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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

My summery to the credibilty of the story with the wedding ceremony and MJ and James did so much incredible sexual stuff togeter in Neverland:

How can it ever be beliveable that Michael and James did all this many sexual stuff together in Neverland over a long perid of time when they only show three pictures in the movie of Michael and James in Neverland (two pictures of Michael alone, one picture of James in a pool) and a Birthday Party at neverland where no Michael showed up?

James said in LN that MJ and he filed out a Document about their "marriage".
They didn't explain, what happened to this document.
Why could James not keep this damm document but the rings?
James semes not to have it and Michael Jackson seamed also not to have it cause the police turned his house upside down in 1993 and 2003 and found nothing!!!

The wedding cermomy should beliveable because they showed three cheep rings in the camera in Leaving Neverland?

When I would be so much in love with Michael and had a loveing relationship with the biggest superstar in the world, I whould make photos with the rings on my finger.
But there is not a single one in LN.

The whole story with the wedding ceremony and the sex adventures in Neberland is unbeliveabe!

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You can post something like this under the uploded videos of LN for the viewers.
 
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Surely they would have found mementos etc of the kids he abused when they turned all his property upside down?
 
This whole thing has taken another turn i feel . James could possibly be severely mentally ill and wade could be taking advantage of that with (possible inherited) mental illness history..which runs in his family..and dan reed could latch onto that fact , and then take advantage of james to fabricate and conduct these strange stories about michael. Although wades motive is money I dont have any empathy for him, I kind of feel for james now and think he is being used and abused by dan reed mentally. i say investigate dan reeds true intentions here.
 
dam2040 said:
Surely they would have found mementos etc of the kids he abused when they turned all his property upside down?
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YEP . And to get married you need TWO rings. No sign of any rings when they raided never-land.
 
dam2040 said:
Surely they would have found mementos etc of the kids he abused wh9en they turned all his property upside down?
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Someone should maybe read the FBI documents to find out if they have made DNA and or sperm tests in 1993 on the other places were MJ should have abused Wade & James.

I guess some of the places were simply guest units were Michael never slept in the beds.
But DNA get lost from washing.
So there is maybe nothing helpful to find in this direction to vidicate Michael.
 
wendijane said:
This whole thing has taken another turn i feel . James could possibly be severely mentally ill and wade could be taking advantage of that with (possible inherited) mental illness history..which runs in his family..and dan reed could latch onto that fact , and then take advantage of james to fabricate and conduct these strange stories about michael. Although wades motive is money I dont have any empathy for him, I kind of feel for james now and think he is being used and abused by dan reed mentally. i say investigate dan reeds true intentions here.
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I have no idea but I do know that I don't have time to worry or care about that. The stuff he's claiming that happened are disgusting as hell and definitely knows what he's doing, so does his mother.

Sorry, no sympathy at all. Trashing MJ's name and legacy like that knowing full well what this will cause in the world, after the previous two allegations. And it's far from over too.
 
wendijane said:
YEP . And to get married you need TWO rings. No sign of any rings when they raided never-land.
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Hm..... is this sure?
Cause I know from the Giraldo River Interview that MJ didn't like to wear rings and I can't remember one single picture of MJ wearing a ring.

Was he wearing the marrige rings during the marrige with Lisa and Debbie?

Did they really find no ring in Neverland in 1993 and 2003?
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
Someone should maybe read the FBI documents to find out if they have made DNA and or sperm tests in 1993 on the other places were MJ should have abused Wade & James.

I guess some of the places were simply guest units were Michael never slept in the beds.
But DNA get lost from washing.
So there is maybe nothing helpful to find in this direction to vidicate Michael.
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In the raid in 1993, they cut MJ's mattress up and did testing on it. NOTHING.
 
wendijane said:
This whole thing has taken another turn i feel . James could possibly be severely mentally ill and wade could be taking advantage of that with (possible inherited) mental illness history..which runs in his family..and dan reed could latch onto that fact , and then take advantage of james to fabricate and conduct these strange stories about michael. Although wades motive is money I dont have any empathy for him, I kind of feel for james now and think he is being used and abused by dan reed mentally. i say investigate dan reeds true intentions here.
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I still say that James fool will be the first to crack. In the Oprah interview he is sweating like hog. Even in the other interviews, he looks like the "I am really doin this" even swallowing hard and looking side to side.
 
terrell said:
I still say that James fool will be the first to crack. In the Oprah interview he is sweating like hog. Even in the other interviews, he looks like the "I am really doin this" even swallowing hard and looking side to side.
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thanks terell Im going to look at the oprah interview now i hadnt seen it but i think it is in my best interests to study james expressions/ reactions as now there is a reason to
 
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Random question, anyone know if Aphrodite Jones would get into all this again? She doesn't tweet much. I thought she was good though no?
 
Imagine James trying to do this on his own, I actually cant. He is so dependant on Wade, constantly looking to him for guidance and then nodding along to confirm that's exactly what hes feeling.
 
Intresting that only wade is giveing interviews now after the airing but I don't noticed that James is giving interviews anymore.

Is this correct?

I am very sure that many newspapers and tv stations have ask him and will ask him.
With more and more money.
 
Here we go: Italy will be so lucky to see this shit on 19 and 20 March in prime time on Channel 9 owned by Discovery. When I think about Discovery Channel I think about lions and seals from now on I also think about pornography. It’s the sign of the times. Ok please pray for us.
 
Yeah they said that they sold it to over 130 countrys.

Huge cash cow for wade, james and reed!
It doesn't really matter if they will get exposed publically in a few months and their lawsuits never can be sucessful then.
Til this day they will have made a lot of money from leaving Neverland!
Thats why it is important to not watch it on tv for us fans.
They didn't deserve one cent and the tv stations who air this crap too.
 
I tweeted Razorfist about chump face Jacobshagen and he said not even haters mention him, so that saying a lot. Let's not give him anymore attention and let's hope he won't get further than tabloidy TV shows in Germany.
 
1nn5 said:
I asked Alicia if the Estate knows Michael Jacohabsen, she said:
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Jacobshagen sounds like he's 'waving for attention' to anyone who might ask him to join in any panel discussions about the LN film, which airs in Germany on 6th April. I wonder if Robson or safechuck will do any personal appearances there? Germany has a LOT of very devoted MJ fans.
 
so what if he bought the kid rings? lol! the whole story of James and Michael going into a jewlery store buying MALE rings stating it is for a female is just stupid..


question.. SO I've seen people say James stated they went to Euro Disney than I heard Disney world.. Which one is it?? I want to know if I can really state the fact he claimed Euro Disney when it wasn't even open yet.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
I tweeted Razorfist about chump face Jacobshagen and he said not even haters mention him, so that saying a lot. Let's not give him anymore attention and let's hope he won't get further than tabloidy TV shows in Germany.
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Yeah..... we really should not click on any article about Jocobshagen!
They will whrite more when ratings shows the public is intrested on the story and this brings Jocobshagen more money and attention.
When we want that the media stop reporting about LN we must stop clicking on negative articles or youtube videos!
 
KOPV said:
so what if he bought the kid rings? lol! the whole story of James and Michael going into a jewlery store buying MALE rings stating it is for a female is just stupid..
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Well,when your trying to dissect their accounts,things like this don't help.

Of course it doesn't mean anything but when you have many believing everything they say,then seeing videos of Michael buying things in a jewellery store just helps their argument.
 
Silverstone said:
Well,when your trying to dissect their accounts,things like this don't help.

Of course it doesn't mean anything but when you have many believing everything they say,then seeing videos of Michael buying things in a jewellery store just helps their argument.
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I know, I guess I am just stating that to myself lol! it's just so stupid that people buy this..




BTW is it dumb of me to think while I appreciate the MJ Innocent project and the banners and all that.. That money, I mean.. docu-series?
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
I think Jocobshagen said in the King Jordan interview in 2013 that the contact of him and MJ ended long time before his death.

The King Jordan Interview and maybe Jacobshagens book "will you be my friend" he wrote in the same year about his friendship with Michal gets more and more and more important.

Did someone read the book?
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Yes. He makes out that he knew MJ over a long period of years. It's all fantasy.

He mentions the Munich visit in '88 and circus Krone, but nothing about staying in the hotel overnight. Like R and S I think's he's saying that he's only just 'realised' he was abused.

He is a proven fraud, is proven to have faked MJ writing and autographs, and makes up stories for attention. He's used photos of other boys and claimed it's him with MJ. He's appears to be a not-very mentally-well person.
 
Jacobshagen isn't getting attention because people see through his bullshit. German TV exposed him as a con artist in 2013; you can't come back from that.
 
Silverstone said:
Well,when your trying to dissect their accounts,things like this don't help.

Of course it doesn't mean anything but when you have many believing everything they say,then seeing videos of Michael buying things in a jewellery store just helps their argument.
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What you should be asking is where are the marriage vows they wrote. Safechuck showing some random ring that he could have bought himself isn't proof. I mean, Safechuck kept the ring safe for 20 something years, but lost the vows?
 
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