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Thriller 40th Anniversary

filmandmusic said:
Selling better than CD’s might not be very impressive. How do current vinyl sales compare to sales in the 80s or 90s?
From what I understand most new albums still aren’t pressed on vinyl so I think most vinyl sales come from a bunch of legacy albums like Thriller. So it is more something of a prestige thing.
Or am I completely wrong?
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You are wrong. Most new albums have a LP pressing now. I bought some new releases recently (Eminem’s Music To Be Murdered By, 2020 / Dua Lipa’s Future Nostalgia, 2021 and also looked up Placebo’s new album for my girlfriend. Sadly the Placebo pressing sucks).
So yeah, pop, hip-hop, rock. Market goes stonks.
 
Alright but it surely is still a niche sale, it is all about streaming now, or am I wrong again ? 🤓
 
kai said:
I would be happy about an edited bad tour 88 HD release.. haha :D
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actually it would be cool to have a tour compilation concert (normal concert but edited with highlights) Michael Jackson's Bad World Tour 1988. This on DVD/Blu-ray and a streaming service called "MJ+" (idk a cool name xD) with other concerts (whether tape or film) every month, two new concerts and of course the albums and short films in HQ. So on DVD/Blu-ray you have a HD edited concert and on the streaming service all concerts in one place. (and maybe every year two unreleased songs maybe please :) )
 
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I hope it's some gems we never had like bad 25. I had no idea about any of those bonus tracks
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mjfp said:
The artist don't get much money from streaming. They get $0.0033 for each stream on spotify
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Exactly. CD sales might be lower but the royalty rate is better. In the UK every couple of years one of the papers writes a scare story about how hard it is for new musicians to make a living off their streaming revenue cos the royalty rate is so crap but nothing seems to change. Just read something the other day saying 60,000 new tracks are uploaded to Spotify every day. No idea if that's true but that's a lot of competition.
 
mjfp said:
yeah it is actually. There was once a better shop I think but they made a new one. Don't ask me why
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yeah, i know, i remember that.
oh my... 166 Euro for this 2 Limited Editions. I think there will be no cheaper store out there. bffff. insane what i am doing here.
 
mjchris said:
yeah, i know, i remember that.
oh my... 166 Euro for this 2 Limited Editions. I think there will be no cheaper store out there. bffff. insane what i am doing here.
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dont you want to remove that tinypic thing from your signature? :D
 
kai said:
dont you want to remove that tinypic thing from your signature? :D
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oh. didnt checked that for a long long long... time.
i set it to hide the signatures. cause i dont want to see the whole forum user profile signatures. thats why.
 
really insane. i paid these 166 Euro, only for the UltraDisc One-Step and SACD. i just need these collectors.
 
Can't you play SACD on blu-ray player. Mine says it does but...
 
mjchris said:
me too. but its a collector item. i just need this one.
I hopt there is no US and EU version for this two releases.
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I don’t think so. The shop seems to be US exclusive.
 
Smooth72 said:
This… I find it odd how the album is only certified something like 35 million in the US. That’s rubbish, it’s probably double.
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I never understood how Thriller hasn't sold more copies than The Greatest Hits of the Eagles in the US. Makes no sense to me and I live in the US. The Eagles were a nice band but really didn't even come close to the influence Thriller had. Just never made any sense to me.
 
They produced/shipped 68 million copies of the album but we don’t know if every copy got sold.
Anyway if they say the nr is 68 then I guess this is an official pre CD figure. Only question is, was this worldwide or US only.
Maybe the 100 million claim isn’t that outlandish?
 
Ngl, I find this so confusing. Back in the day the figures quoted would have been for vinyl and cassette sales. The figures quoted these days, does that include CD's? Streaming?

And, yeah, it's never entirely clear whether it's US sales or worldwide sales that are being talked about. If it's worldwide then it clearly will have sold more than the Eagles. The Eagles were great but, come on! If it was a Beatles album that had sold more that would make sense but the Eagles? Hardly.

I've seen suggestions over the years that the 100 million figure includes sales for the various singles released off the album. I've never checked the Guiness Book account of this, what data are they using so I don't know if that is true.

I need a nice simple story, lol.
 
I think it’s safe to assume that the 68 million “original” pressings were sold in some capacity. There are a few scattered unopened units on eBay and the like, but unless they were taken directly from the manufacturer they were bought and never used. Also, when were these 68 million copies made?

It’s sort of crazy to me that we’ll never truly know how many copies Thriller sold.
 
The plant has produced 40 million copies till the end of 1984. Question is, were all of them delivered to the domestic market only?
 
AlwaysThere said:
It’s sort of crazy to me that we’ll never truly know how many copies Thriller sold.
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Agreed. Hulkamaniac has a point, fair enough, and I hardly ever think about this but I still think it's weird that the figure that usually gets quoted is pretty much the same one from decades back.
 
The victory tour, the oddest tour ever. The only tour in history where non of the songs of the album they’re promoting made it to the setlist. It would have been understandable if the logical choice was to perform all the thriller tracks because of its success but only 4 out of 9 tracks of this album were performed.
They did find room however to perform 2 tracks from the then latest Jermaine Jackson album, why not throw Torture in the mix?

I honestly don’t know what they were thinking. There must have been some heavy discussions regarding this. I wanna know more about it, especially about rehearsals.
 
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