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I think Hot Street will be next.

We know Starlight and Hot Street are both going to be on there in some form, may as well announce them sooner rather than later. Finish strong.

I wonder if they'll release a song of Disc 2 early?
 
AlwaysThere said:
Michael Prince debunked this. Rod was working on an alternate chorus, which never made it past the writing stage. MJ wrote the third verse himself.

I also recall hearing about Rod being difficult to work with; I think it was from Birchey?
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Ahh did he? I hadn't heard about that.
Thanks for clearing it up mate.

I'm surprised they chose to leave it off, that's if the verse was usable in some form.
As Best Of Joy (as much as I adore it) does feel somewhat short/unfinished.

Sorry for the double post
 
AlwaysThere said:
I likely typed this out before getting confirmation on it. Certainly a valid reason to call me out on though!

I don’t think “unusable” is a fair word to use, as it apparently sounds great. But bear in mind, this was just a reference vocal; MJ wasn’t looking to use it on the final track. Giving a different performance won’t make as much of a difference on the demo, even if it’s unintentional.

It’s always possible I’m way off the mark here, and I’ll own it if so! There seems to be some conflicting info going around regarding this track (this is the first I’ve ever heard November 2008 as the recording date). I’ll do some more digging so I don’t come off like a total ass here, lol. Very valid to question these comments since they’re a lot harder to verify in comparison to the sound of a track.
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Oh, well a reference vocal would also fall into the category of "factors". If true, that would make sense and be completely valid
 
Someone on twitter in the comments mentioned "Sunset Driver" should be on there, but to me, that's an Off The Wall era song....but you have to think about it, maybe it could fit somewhere on T40?

I personally would rather roll with stuff we know were targeted for Thriller originally, and were worked on between OTW and Thriller.
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
I would say you failed at managing your expectations.

Compounded by unrealistic speculations & personal opinions presented as facts.

+ a whole dose of negativity

= this thread in a nutshell
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I would say you incorrectly read my post to think i presented my personal opinion as fact
 
Stab in the dark I think next weeks reveal might be something we have previously purchased, although slightly different

I think carousel uncut (longer into) is it like 4 mins 3 seconds something like that

What do you all think is the next reveal
Is it something like carousel or maybe hot street (never officially released) or something we’re not expecting like rolling the dice or unknown title
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
It’s not out of the realm of possibilities. They could be holding on to hot street for a real posthumous album.
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Indeed, that could be a possibility. However, having both on the same album is something which will most assuredly not happen.
 
telimens said:
Those who want to hear Hot Street on the album should prepare themselves for Slapstick (Demo).
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I can't even lie... i wouldn't even be mad if they decided to include Slapstick and not Hot Street, considering we already got Hot Street in amazing quality, it would be pretty great if they released Slapstick in high quality. (Well, higher quality than the leak, at least)
 
I’d hope not. They specifically advertised Thriller-era rarities and demos, and to their credit they were forthright about the remixes on B25. They’re 3 for 3 with the announced tracks thus far, and I hope they don’t blow it on a remix.
 
Dorian said:
How can it be when it’s not a demo?
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Because the MJE site themselves say that disc 2 isn’t just demos, but “Thriller era bonus material including demos”.

Say Say Say was a Thriller era track. It’s not out of the realm of possibility.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I’d hope not. They specifically advertised Thriller-era rarities and demos, and to their credit they were forthright about the remixes on B25. They’re 3 for 3 with the announced tracks thus far, and I hope they don’t blow it on a remix.
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Yeah I don’t want a spot wasted either, but just can see it happening. Will have to wait and see.
 
Since She's Trouble is already the final on disc 2, so no place for Say Say Say Kygo Remix. My guess is this track will be a standalone single released on the same day as Thriller 40 just like Thriller Steve Aoki Remix with Scream.
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
I would say you failed at managing your expectations.

Compounded by unrealistic speculations & personal opinions presented as facts.

+ a whole dose of negativity

= this thread in a nutshell
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You should check out the definition of the word " discussion ".
Pathetic....
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
I would say you failed at managing your expectations.

Compounded by unrealistic speculations & personal opinions presented as facts.

+ a whole dose of negativity

= this thread in a nutshell
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As someone who constantly complains about an over abundance of negativity towards the estate and their projects, this thread really hasn’t been bad in the slightest lol. If anything, this is the most optimism I’ve seen since 2014.
 
This has the potential to be a fantastic project. I think it's very unlikely we will get modern remixes because looking at the sequence, the remixes would seem out of place when you have unreleased original songs closing the album. If we add Carousel, Hot Street, Nightline, and Got The Hots to what we have right now, it will look something like this:

1. Hot Street
2. Nightline
3. Carousel
4. Got The Hots
5. Behind The Mask
6. Unknown
7. The Toy
8. Unknown
9. Unknown
10. She's Trouble

The last 3 songs are a guessing game, but if you look at the digital edition it leaves some clues. For All Time and The Girl Is Mine (Demo) are not included. I doubt For All Time will be on here because it simply doesn't make any sense when it isn't even a Thriller outtake to begin with. The best-case scenario is that we could see 2 more brand new songs on this disc if The Girl Is Mine is not included, but I believe the 3 songs likely to fill up this disc are:

Starlight - I think this is a given.
The Girl Is Mine (Demo) - due to the fact this isn't on the digital edition.
A brand-new song from the Thriller sessions that we haven't heard yet.

Slapstick is the wild card here. This song could be included, but if I were The Estate or Sony's A&R I'd push Hot Street as the single to Thriller 40 and I'd put out a digital release of the song with Slapstick as the b-side...so you'd get the demo to Hot Street as a bonus song that isn't on the project...and so that we'd get more music.
 
I really do hope they put slapstick instead of Hot street. I hope we get a song we never have heard of, BUT if they put one of the 2 songs on it , i want Slapstick, we don't have that one in good quality.
 
I really hope that they include the longer version of lady of my life. Or is it on digital album?

Could someone give me link to where I can see all the versions coming out? Plus is the digital album apart from disc 2 got all titles out now?
 
farlnd said:
This has the potential to be a fantastic project. I think it's very unlikely we will get modern remixes because looking at the sequence, the remixes would seem out of place when you have unreleased original songs closing the album. If we add Carousel, Hot Street, Nightline, and Got The Hots to what we have right now, it will look something like this:

1. Hot Street
2. Nightline
3. Carousel
4. Got The Hots
5. Behind The Mask
6. Unknown
7. The Toy
8. Unknown
9. Unknown
10. She's Trouble

The last 3 songs are a guessing game, but if you look at the digital edition it leaves some clues. For All Time and The Girl Is Mine (Demo) are not included. I doubt For All Time will be on here because it simply doesn't make any sense when it isn't even a Thriller outtake to begin with. The best-case scenario is that we could see 2 more brand new songs on this disc if The Girl Is Mine is not included, but I believe the 3 songs likely to fill up this disc are:

Starlight - I think this is a given.
The Girl Is Mine (Demo) - due to the fact this isn't on the digital edition.
A brand-new song from the Thriller sessions that we haven't heard yet.

Slapstick is the wild card here. This song could be included, but if I were The Estate or Sony's A&R I'd push Hot Street as the single to Thriller 40 and I'd put out a digital release of the song with Slapstick as the b-side...so you'd get the demo to Hot Street as a bonus song that isn't on the project...and so that we'd get more music.
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Impossible we get 4 unleaked song
 
xscape guy 2003 said:
Could someone give me link to where I can see all the versions coming out? Plus is the digital album apart from disc 2 got all titles out now?
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tracks 1 - 9 --> CD #1
tracks 10 - 19 --> CD #2
tracks 20 - 34 --> digital only

 
He should've gave "she's trouble" to latoya. It sounds like something she would sing & dance to!
 
I think there will be one more demo that we have not heard on the track list. I guessed that the 1st unheard track would be announced week of announcements 3 and the 2nd week 8. Let's see!
 
KOPV said:
I think there will be one more demo that we have not heard on the track list. I guessed that the 1st unheard track would be announced week of announcements 3 and the 2nd week 8. Let's see!
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Honestly 2 unheard song enough for me (with the toy)
 
Honestly I would like them to include Slapstick just because the files we have of it are not really that great quality. I know they will likely go with Hot Street though, even though it is pretty good I don't think they'd use it on a studio album, so putting it here makes most sense.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Honestly I would like them to include Slapstick just because the files we have of it are not really that great quality. I know they will likely go with Hot Street though, even though it is pretty good I don't think they'd use it on a studio album, so putting it here makes most sense.
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I prefer hot street anyway...slapstick is so weird. Slapstick & beautiful girl can stay in the vaults!! Never thought I'd hate any of his songs even if they are demos
 
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