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AlwaysThere said:
I’m beginning to think this isn’t “Lovely Way.” These vocals sound late 1990s at the absolute earliest, so unless MJ re-recorded it this is almost certainly something else.

Perhaps Korgnex could confirm?
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Michael hums this exact melody during the 93' deposition when asked about 'What A Lovely Way To Go', so I think it's pretty safe to assume that it's the same song.
 
mjjcn1432 said:
You guys please stop guessing the tracklist, it's getting pointless now...
Also, in case you don't know, before the announcement of first track, several previously released Thriller era tracks posted on YouTube are labeled as "track 11", "track 13", "track 15" and "track 17" of a non-existent album, and these songs are Got The Hots (track 11), Carousel (track 13), Can't Get Outta The Rain (track 15) and Sunset Driver (track 17). Now that Got The Hots is confirmed as indeed the 11th track, so we can be sure of track 13, 15 and 17.
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Damn. There might be some truth about this. The attached "Track 11" to GTH has just recently turned into "Got The Hots (Demo)".
 
Fuzball said:
Damn. There might be some truth about this. The attached "Track 11" to GTH has just recently turned into "Got The Hots (Demo)".
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Yes, it seems likely at this point, unfortunately. I think they're going by the rule of having no demo versions of Thriller tracks. So no Starlight and Girl is Mine Solo, but most likely Hot Street/Slapstick and Niteline.

The oddest thing is why Girl is Mine Solo, Someone in the Dark etc. aren't on Disc 3 if they're not on Disc 2.

One thing I thought they might do is reissue The Girl is Mine as a digital single and new music video featuring recording studio footage, with the demo as a bonus track like they did in 2008. Just a thought, but this is the estate we're talking about so who knows why it isn't on there.
 
robotchicken14 said:
Yes, it seems likely at this point, unfortunately. I think they're going by the rule of having no demo versions of Thriller tracks. So no Starlight and Girl is Mine Solo, but most likely Hot Street/Slapstick and Niteline.

The oddest thing is why Girl is Mine Solo, Someone in the Dark etc. aren't on Disc 3 if they're not on Disc 2.

One thing I thought they might do is reissue The Girl is Mine as a digital single and new music video featuring recording studio footage, with the demo as a bonus track like they did in 2008. Just a thought, but this is the estate we're talking about so who knows why it isn't on there.
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“Starlight” has gotten sweeping takedown notices across YouTube, so that one’s definitively on there.
 
Would be very odd if Starlight wasn't included. I guess you could argue that they could save it for 50 but really why bother.
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Starlight” has gotten sweeping takedown notices across YouTube, so that one’s definitively on there.
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It looks like to me that Hot Street might be the one that didn't make disc 2. The Estate might think this song strong enough to make a new studio album and it will come out along with a contemporized version.
Or, in a better case, they saw what fans posted and decided to swap Can't Get Outta The Rain or/and Sunset Driver for something we really want.
 
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Just looked at this picture for once more and I've came up with something.
Clearly there are 2 songs missing to make a full zero, and the arc on the right is shorter than the left one, so given the possible candidate songs I've mentioned, I think it's Carousel on the right as it only has 8 letters, while those who have 9 letters (counting space bar) is the one on the left, i.e. Hot Street, Nite Line or Starlight.
For the 3 missing on four, the hypotenuse must be Can't Get Outta The Rain, because it has the longest title. The base is Sunset Driver and another 9 letter song.
But this theory could vary due to different fonts used.
Just my two cents.
 
Honestly, the longer I sit on it, the more I feel that disc 2 is already worth the money, irrespective of the as-yet-unannounced songs. We’re getting the original demo for “Behind the Mask” that we’ve wanted for 12 years, a 1980s recording of “Best of Joy” (more or less), a completely unheard song, and an HQ version of “She’s Trouble.” Even if the remaining songs are all leaks and/or previously released demos, this is still the best and most comprehensive Thriller reissue ever. It’s far from perfect but I can’t think of any serious, make-or-break complaints in the same way I could for Michael or Bad 25.
 
T40 is already a great release IMO with the songs we get on disc 2. - no matter if all the rest is already leaked songs.

4K videos would be great.

The Jacksons have recently re-issued The Jacksons LIVE! LP - and also the have just released new Victory tour jackets.

Could there be a The Jacksons release of Victory tour in the progress? Maybe they plan on releasing it close to the release of T40 to use the momentum and interest for the period and tour? - I really hope so, but who knows.

Have anyone bought the re-issue of The Jacksons LIVE! ? - and is the sound any better?
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I hope Can't Get Out Of The Rain or Sunset Driver aren't on there. I'm pleased with most of the tracklist that we know so far, but it's hard to get excited about songs that have already been released.
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Not only are they already released. But those songs are already connected to the Off The Wall Era. MJ may have worked some more on Sunset Driver for Thriller, but it’s an OTW era song & was first released on the Ultimate Collection.
And „Can’t Get Outta The Rain/You Can’t Win“ even predate OTW with their roots in The Wiz movie.
 
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I really do hope we get Starlight.

I am a little sad we won't get The Girl Is Mine demo - MJ solo. - Someone mentioned this could be released as a single with a new musicvideo with studio footage. - Imagine if that happened... Would be EPIC. - MJ and Sir Paul in the studio, would really be gold.
 
Derek1984 said:
Fun fact I've discovered: Sunset Driver uses the same bridge as Any Love (Rufus 1979) and Turn on the Action (1981). Both Quincy Jones productions.
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Now I'm wondering if the bridge on the '78 version differs from the released '82 version.🤔
 
mikey82james said:
I hope it’s not so everyone can stop worrying about can’t get outta the rain. That song has no business on thriller 40. Yes it was a b side but so was some of the Jackson’s live songs and they equally have no business on thriller 40
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I try to upload that song on youtube and copyright say "track 13" this is really interesting
 
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