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AlwaysThere said:
I always suspected that Michael wasn’t recording it in the leaked clip, but he just spontaneously sang a bit of it while the tape was running. Similar to when he randomly started singing his “P.Y.T.” demo during a Dangerous Tour rehearsal.
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Why else would MJ be in the recording booth if not for recording?
 
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AlwaysThere said:
I always suspected that Michael wasn’t recording it in the leaked clip, but he just spontaneously sang a bit of it while the tape was running. Similar to when he randomly started singing his “P.Y.T.” demo during a Dangerous Tour rehearsal.
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Nah I definitely think he was recording it because 1, he is singing to the piano accompaniment of the actual song so he wasn’t just singing something randomly and 2, right at the start of the clip you can clearly hear the full composition of the song before it cuts off and it sounds just like Siedah’s version and 3, you can hear him talking between the takes and singing a Beatles song if I remember correctly. With all this in mind it’s pretty safe to assume that he was recording the song.
 
Fuzball said:
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One interesting thing about this whole ordeal and the clip above: a tape with Groove of Midnight was being sold last decade, so it's probably the one that Matt Forger was looking for. All we need to do is locate who has it now and get him to hand it over to Matt Forger.
 
SeriousFX said:
One interesting thing about this whole ordeal and the clip above: a tape with Groove of Midnight was being sold last decade, so it's probably the one that Matt Forger was looking for. All we need to do is locate who has it now and get him to hand it over to Matt Forger.
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Sounds like Bruce and Rod on that snippet.
 
SeriousFX said:
One interesting thing about this whole ordeal and the clip above: a tape with Groove of Midnight was being sold last decade, so it's probably the one that Matt Forger was looking for. All we need to do is locate who has it now and get him to hand it over to Matt Forger.
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It would be so incredible if we ended up finding michael's version.
 
Derek1984 said:
He says "Ronnie". It's Ronnie Foster. I think he plays keyboards. https://www.instagram.com/p/B1w4eiPi9ay/?hl=en
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Thank you! Had no idea about this one!
Themidwestcowboy said:
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Nah I definitely think he was recording it because 1, he is singing to the piano accompaniment of the actual song so he wasn’t just singing something randomly and 2, right at the start of the clip you can clearly hear the full composition of the song before it cuts off and it sounds just like Siedah’s version and 3, you can hear him talking between the takes and singing a Beatles song if I remember correctly. With all this in mind it’s pretty safe to assume that he was recording the song.
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That’s a very fair point. Like I said, it’s just very surprising that nobody seems to remember it being recorded. Perhaps it was one of those tracks like “Abortion Papers,” where it was recorded with ”unusual” engineers.
 
“Rod Temperton had some songs”, remembers Matt Forger. “Quincy asked him to have songs ready. Groove of Midnight is one of these songs. However we searched and we could not find a version with Michael’s vocals. It wasn’t a song that they considered for the BAD album eventually”.
 
MJ definitely sung a portion of Groove Of Midnight. On the clip posted above they are talking to Michael about holding a note. (Off memory) Rod or Bruce tells Michael that if he can’t hold it the note they can punch one in. Ive asked Matt Forger and Brad S about it in person. Brad said he didn’t think the track was recorded. Matt said the version with Michaels Vocals wasn’t recorded in time for Bad 25.
 
Cprep20 said:
MJ definitely sung a portion of Groove Of Midnight. On the clip posted above they are talking to Michael about holding a note. (Off memory) Rod or Bruce tells Michael that if he can’t hold it the note they can punch one in. Ive asked Matt Forger and Brad S about it in person. Brad said he didn’t think the track was recorded. Matt said the version with Michaels Vocals wasn’t recorded in time for Bad 25.
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Could've been a Roll The Dice situation. Recorded a demo in a day and decided it was weak and wouldn't make the album so got shelved and that was it.
 
I would presume the discs, cd case and booklets have produced by now. Or a least near to complete. How long before the complete track list leaks ?
 
mikey82james said:
I would presume the discs, cd case and booklets have produced by now. Or a least near to complete. How long before the complete track list leaks ?
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The album is due to release 18/11. So, a bit over a month from now.
 
I've seen this just now.
SmoothGangsta said:
How do we know that the released version is from '82 again?
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The registration with the US Copyright Office states it as a 1982 recording.

Sunset driver.​

Type of Work:​
Music
Registration Number / Date:​
PA0001293548 / 2005-02-14
Title:​
Sunset driver.
Appears in:​
The ultimate collection. Epic E5K 92600, c2004. 4 compact discs & video disc (DVD)
Publisher Number:​
Epic E5K 92600
Performer:​
Performed by Michael Jackson.
Copyright Claimant:​
Mijac Music
Date of Creation:​
1982
Date of Publication:​
2004-11-16
Authorship on Application:​
words & music: Michael J. Jackson.
Other Title:​
The ultimate collection
Names:​
Jackson, Michael J.
Mijac Music
 
Fuzball said:
I've seen this just now.

The registration with the US Copyright Office states it as a 1982 recording.


Sunset driver.​


Type of Work:​
Music
Registration Number / Date:​
PA0001293548 / 2005-02-14
Title:​
Sunset driver.
Appears in:​
The ultimate collection. Epic E5K 92600, c2004. 4 compact discs & video disc (DVD)
Publisher Number:​
Epic E5K 92600
Performer:​
Performed by Michael Jackson.
Copyright Claimant:​
Mijac Music
Date of Creation:​
1982
Date of Publication:​
2004-11-16
Authorship on Application:​
words & music: Michael J. Jackson.
Other Title:​
The ultimate collection
Names:​
Jackson, Michael J.
Mijac Music
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Oh that's interesting. Rather strange that it doesn't seem to have been updated all that much, still sounds like OTW era recording.
 
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Fuzball said:
I've seen this just now.

The registration with the US Copyright Office states it as a 1982 recording.


Sunset driver.​


Type of Work:​
Music
Registration Number / Date:​
PA0001293548 / 2005-02-14
Title:​
Sunset driver.
Appears in:​
The ultimate collection. Epic E5K 92600, c2004. 4 compact discs & video disc (DVD)
Publisher Number:​
Epic E5K 92600
Performer:​
Performed by Michael Jackson.
Copyright Claimant:​
Mijac Music
Date of Creation:​
1982
Date of Publication:​
2004-11-16
Authorship on Application:​
words & music: Michael J. Jackson.
Other Title:​
The ultimate collection
Names:​
Jackson, Michael J.
Mijac Music
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The US Copyright Office registries also state “In the Back” as a 1989 recording, even though it wasn’t conceived until 1995. Not saying that it’s incorrect, because I also buy that it’s a Thriller outtake. Just throwing out there that these registries aren’t always accurate or reliable.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Oh that's interesting. Rather strange that it doesn't seem to have been updated all that much, still sounds like OTW era recording.
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Maybe the vocal take is still the same from the '79 version, or maybe the US Copyright Office is wrong, at this point, who knows...
 
AlwaysThere said:
The US Copyright Office registries also state “In the Back” as a 1989 recording, even though it wasn’t conceived until 1995. Not saying that it’s incorrect, because I also buy that it’s a Thriller outtake. Just throwing out there that these registries aren’t always accurate or reliable.
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Yeah, it could be wrong. I didn't really consider those registrations being inaccurate tbh, seems like something you'd make sure was correct.

Funny how lots of stuff associated with TUC has inaccuracies lol
 
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NeoGardiV8 said:
Maybe the vocal take is still the same from the '79 version, or maybe the US Copyright Office is wrong, at this point, who knows...
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I remember that it is a reworked version of the song from '82 but I don't know if he re-recorded again in '82
 
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Not long left now! I think we'll get some more unheard songs on Disc 2 than originally thought.
 
I will be happy with Hot Street or Nite Line. For the love of god, I hope it isn’t Can’t Get Out Of The Rain.
 
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