Thriller 40th Anniversary

The new footage looks outstanding

I just wish they'd release it rather than tease us with snippets of it, like what is the point of holding onto footage of Michael and Paul recording TGIM? What are they waiting for?

It would be a great way to celebrate the 40th anniversary to release the studio footage as an unofficial music video, than to tease us with snippets in a documentary.
This is the opportune moment
It's almost like it has been done before.
Oh wait, it has. When Paul made that "The Man" video with unseen footage of Michael at his place.

TAKE NOTES, BRANCA.
 
The new footage looks outstanding

I just wish they'd release it rather than tease us with snippets of it, like what is the point of holding onto footage of Michael and Paul recording TGIM? What are they waiting for?

It would be a great way to celebrate the 40th anniversary to release the studio footage as an unofficial music video, than to tease us with snippets in a documentary.
This is the opportune moment
Yeah, not trying to sound negative here just stating how I really feel but this footage is basically all I want to see and most of the rest of the doc may as well not exist lol. I get this is for general audiences but it really wouldn't take much for them to release full interviews and footage etc.

Who knows maybe something will come out at the time the doc releases
 
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thanks for the tag 💜 I have to promise myself not to look at any more clips. I want to have something to look forward to next month 😆

once again, it’s michael’s own words that are the highlight for me. his ambition and belief in himself is inspiring. I wonder if this comes from the audiotapes of his autobiography? he began working on it during the making of the ‘thriller’ short film.

I’m probably the only one (wouldn’t be the first time 😆) who isn’t concerned with concert footage. I just don’t enjoy live music. I’m so used to the studio versions. Michael looks angry and sounds aggressive singing a song that is supposed to be tender (‘human nature’). the ‘victory’ tour is getting its own documentary anyway.

overall though, this is shaping up to be the best ever. I personally wouldn’t require anything more after this.
 
thanks for the tag 💜 I have to promise myself not to look at any more clips. I want to have something to look forward to next month 😆

once again, it’s michael’s own words that are the highlight for me. his ambition and belief in himself is inspiring. I wonder if this comes from the audiotapes of his autobiography? he began working on it during the making of the ‘thriller’ short film.
oh, I am so sorry! I didn't stop to think. My bad. If any more clips crop up I promise I won't tag you.

It was quite startling to hear his level of self-belief and assurance and ambition. Not that I didn't know it before but to hear him state it so boldly felt quite different. Amazing!

I’m probably the only one (wouldn’t be the first time 😆) who isn’t concerned with concert footage. I just don’t enjoy live music. I’m so used to the studio versions.
I go both ways on this. I started going to gigs quite early on so very quickly got used to the difference in sound when a singer is live. And I love the excitement and energy of a live performance. Otoh, if an album is re-released and they change the mixing too much I get annoyed. I want it to sound the way it did when it first came out. Otherwise, why bother? I don't even like album versions of songs, usually. I prefer shorter radio edits.

Michael looks angry and sounds aggressive singing a song that is supposed to be tender (‘human nature’).
I can understand why people don't like that too much. I love it, I love the fact that he looks so fierce. I don't like the reason *why* he looks so angry - presumably it's to do with being pushed into doing the tour when he didn't even want to. I don't like that aspect of it AT ALL. But, for the performance, it works really well for me. I have many different interpretations for HN so it doesn't feel weird to me.

the ‘victory’ tour is getting its own documentary anyway.
Fair point.

overall though, this is shaping up to be the best ever. I personally wouldn’t require anything more after this.
You're a better person than me, lol. There's a few more bits that I would like.
 
I think it's fair to say that they actually DO have a FULL concert in 4K.

So many clips from so many songs does not make sense if not the entire concert is recorded/filmed.

SO Come on Jacksons and Estate - PLEASE work together. This is a win-win for all. Release the concert.

Footage looks amazing. - So even if they do not have the sound as multitracks from soundboard or what it's called. The sound in the snippets are fine to me. - Just release it. - And if you have more concerts, release a box-set. - Young MJ was much more improvised more impulsive, so those concerts are not exactly the same like Dangerous and HIStory concert. - So it would be very interesting to have more concerts released officially from The Jacksons...

Give it to me !!
This. SO much this!
 
The new footage looks outstanding

I just wish they'd release it rather than tease us with snippets of it, like what is the point of holding onto footage of Michael and Paul recording TGIM? What are they waiting for?

It would be a great way to celebrate the 40th anniversary to release the studio footage as an unofficial music video, than to tease us with snippets in a documentary.
This is the opportune moment
It's almost like it has been done before.
Oh wait, it has. When Paul made that "The Man" video with unseen footage of Michael at his place.

TAKE NOTES, BRANCA.
Yeah, not trying to sound negative here just stating how I really feel but this footage is basically all I want to see and most of the rest of the doc may as well not exist lol. I get this is for general audiences but it really wouldn't take much for them to release full interviews and footage etc.

Who knows maybe something will come out at the time the doc releases
EVERYONE is on fire today!
 
The different angles also make a big difference compared to the same old jumbotron shots imo. Someone who worked on the lights/stage told me that they had roughly 18 cameras in toronto (probably a mix of tape/patrick Kelly's film?). You can see Patrick's cam at the end of SYB I think.

They probably also chose those songs for the doc because its MJs songs (they dont need Jacksons permission). They were open to a release in 2017 or at least the Jacksons FB page was lol. If they release this it will be the best posthumous content hands down.
 
MJ tours in the 90s were on autopilot
MJ in the 80s (especially early 80s) was fired up, boundless energy, passion, he was very expressive. Look at his face at 7 seconds when he announces human nature, he was also closer to the audience in terms of communicating. It felt less sterile and rehearsed.

I know what I prefer...

I hope this doc will air on national tv here. Both off the wall and bad docs did but that was before LN, I'm curious.
 
It's almost like it has been done before.
Oh wait, it has. When Paul made that "The Man" video with unseen footage of Michael at his place.

TAKE NOTES, BRANCA.
Oh is that kind of an unofficial official video for the Man then?
 
Oh is that kind of an unofficial official video for the Man then?
Yeah. Macca has a series of re-releases of all his studio albums (Wings and solo) that started in 2010. When the time came for Pipes of Peace, the bonus DVD for it had a video montage for the song with footage of MJ at Paul and Linda's ranch in 1981/82.

 
I'll actually give him the greatest kudos and say he was right. The shows do blend together, for one simple reason: the staging was boring for every tour.

In fact I'll go out on a limb and say pretty much all concerts by any artist, have dull staging to me. I just haven't seen any to be impressed by. It's never the priority of course, and it's a minor nitpick. But. This Is It would've been a true milestone and I would greatly have loved to see something truly dynamic and exciting.
Precisely this. MJ would perform each song the exact same way for every tour, and it becomes boring once you’ve watched it dozens of times. Sure, later performances of “Human Nature” have extra dancing throughout, but that barely qualifies as a change. If you see him sing it once, you’ve seen all you’re ever gonna see.

MJ deserves a 4K release, but I would be lying if I said it wouldn’t be the most non-exciting project possible. New music and documentaries, to me, have infinitely more long-term value than concerts.
 
MJ tours in the 90s were on autopilot
MJ in the 80s (especially early 80s) was fired up, boundless energy, passion, he was very expressive. Look at his face at 7 seconds when he announces human nature, he was also closer to the audience in terms of communicating. It felt less sterile and rehearsed.

I know what I prefer...

I hope this doc will air on national tv here. Both off the wall and bad docs did but that was before LN, I'm curious.
The Dangerous Tour is autopilot?

Delusional. No other word for it.
 
Precisely this. MJ would perform each song the exact same way for every tour, and it becomes boring once you’ve watched it dozens of times. Sure, later performances of “Human Nature” have extra dancing throughout, but that barely qualifies as a change. If you see him sing it once, you’ve seen all you’re ever gonna see.

MJ deserves a 4K release, but I would be lying if I said it wouldn’t be the most non-exciting project possible. New music and documentaries, to me, have infinitely more long-term value than concerts.
I'm not gonna say all that....

There's joy in repetition sometimes.
 
The new footage looks outstanding

I just wish they'd release it rather than tease us with snippets of it, like what is the point of holding onto footage of Michael and Paul recording TGIM? What are they waiting for?

It would be a great way to celebrate the 40th anniversary to release the studio footage as an unofficial music video, than to tease us with snippets in a documentary.
Now y'all are seeing my point. I've been saying this on here for years now lol
I’m so used to the studio versions. Michael looks angry and sounds aggressive singing a song that is supposed to be tender (‘human nature’). the ‘victory’ tour is getting its own documentary anyway.
Never in my life thought about that but it's actually hard not to sing that song with that face. I've tried it. It's not the entire song in a frown though lol. I feel
Right? Paul decided to bring some unseen goodies to the light and it's greafull
I'm guessing because Paul owns the rights to that song & footage he could use it? Or maybe him & the estate are just cool like that
My distaste for Victory due to its poor sounds is still here, but having a full concert in such quality would surely make up for it.
It's something about those synthesizers & the drums...I hate them! I'm not sure if they were all electric or what & that God awful snare on EVERY SONG! I can hear it in my head right now lol. The only times the drums sounded ok was during Jermaine session & ib think the reason is because jermaine probably used the exact drums on his albums. I'll never understand how mj went from quality Quincy to the way the victory tour instruments sounded. Maybe the bros out voted him on it
 
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I'm not gonna say all that....

There's joy in repetition sometimes.
For sure! But there are times when I can’t help but wonder how much more replay value his shows would have if there was some differentiation. That’s one of the reasons I loved the Broadway show so much; songs like “Smooth Criminal,” “Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’,” and “Thriller” were given fresh and interesting interpretations, rather than the rinse-and-repeat method MJ stuck to. Of course the original recipe is classic for a reason, but when you’ve tasted the same dish hundreds of times, it’s hard to not get excited when some new flavors are brought into the mix.
 
Literally the only thing the Estate has done with this documentary is prove to people that they have material to release, stuff that fans have wanted for years. They just do not wanna release it.

I hate their teasing, and i refuse to support it any longer lol
 
I hope they release the Victory Tour for fans who want it

With that being said, that short clip sums up my frustration with the Victory Tour.
The instrumentation and backing vocals from the brothers make Human Nature sound ordinary
 
You're welcome.

All hail @kai for the original clip, all hail @wonderouzmj for bringing us an extended clip. Awesome!


It's wild. I love it.


I want this SO much. It's great having random songs or short little clips - some people have done some great work in this area - but a complete concert is what's needed.

i only posted the link.. i did not upload this
 
That's a pretty cool thing to win.

I will not be posting myself doing the Thriller dance though so I'll be sitting this one out lol.
 
I understand that he’s literally the producer, but with how he’s talked about MJ and how he abandoned him in 2019, I find it rich that he’s suddenly back on the wagon.

And yet, I also desperately want it lol.

Yeah I remember him being very bitter and weird for a while. Was surprised when that statement celebrating the 40th got posted on twitter and how positive it was tbh.
 
all vinyls autographed like this:
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For sure! But there are times when I can’t help but wonder how much more replay value his shows would have if there was some differentiation. That’s one of the reasons I loved the Broadway show so much; songs like “Smooth Criminal,” “Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’,” and “Thriller” were given fresh and interesting interpretations, rather than the rinse-and-repeat method MJ stuck to. Of course the original recipe is classic for a reason, but when you’ve tasted the same dish hundreds of times, it’s hard to not get excited when some new flavors are brought into the mix.
Yeah, that's the main reason I want 1 offs like One Night Only.
 
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