The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Bryan hates Mind is the Magic?
During his Paris seminar (and, I believe, his MJ Cast interview), he said he thought it was a terrible song and only contributed to it because MJ asked him to. I think he also said that MJ wrote and produced the entire thing solo, and his contributions basically boiled down to instruments and additional vocals.
 
During his Paris seminar (and, I believe, his MJ Cast interview), he said he thought it was a terrible song and only contributed to it because MJ asked him to. I think he also said that MJ wrote and produced the entire thing solo, and his contributions basically boiled down to instruments and additional vocals.
Imo Mind Is the Magic is definitely one of the better Loren contributions. Don’t see why he hates it, especially when tracks like The Verdict exist.
 
Do we know about the state of completion of the Off The Wall outtakes? Is there a reason why there wasn't a disc 2 for the 2016 re-issue? It's curious how we have at least a handful of outtakes from every era but nothing from OTW.
 
do you even thing we are going to get a Bad 40 and Invincible 40? (if we DO get a Invincible 40 then I will be shocked and mad because why did they not release HIStory 40, Dangerous 40. They did nothing for H25 or D25)
 
do you even thing we are going to get a Bad 40 and Invincible 40? (if we DO get a Invincible 40 then I will be shocked and mad because why did they not release HIStory 40, Dangerous 40. They did nothing for H25 or D25)
There's a decent chance that we'll get Bad 40, just expect it to be as half-assed as T40 lol.
 
Bad 40 honestly should have not entirely finished songs for its 2nd disc as to use the others for future releases
Songs like Crack kills, Changes, What You Do to Me, Tomboy, Be Me 4 A Day, Etc
 
People like to trash Loren tracks, but they're fine. Seven Digits seems to be the strongest of the bunch.
Some of them are decent but they're no match for Teddy Riley's tracks. Even his best songs are only good enough for re-issue albums and not for full albums like Xscape or Michael.
 
I said it on here not that long ago but I do think the Loren tracks have their own sound that I like, and if teddy hadn't came along maybe we'd have had an album with that consistent sound. Would have been its own thing and something I'd definitely enjoy, but nowhere near as good as what Teddy ended up doing.
 
I think the Loren tracks have potential. “Serious Effect” and “Superfly Sister” anre awesome, and “She Got It” is flat out excellent. “Work That Body” is a little rote and I don’t care for the little we’ve heard of “Don’t Believe It.” I think MJ was better served with Teddy at the end of the day.
 
Teddy's work is overrated imo. Not saying he didn't shift the direction Dangerous was gonna take in 1990, but he let the triad of fillers slide when they're as abysmal as the Loren tracks people mention.
 
I really believe we could get bad 40.

With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)

Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break


Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit
 
Teddy's work is overrated imo. Not saying he didn't shift the direction Dangerous was gonna take in 1990, but he let the triad of fillers slide when they're as abysmal as the Loren tracks people mention.
Absolutely not. Those Teddy Riley tracks are MJs homage to James Brown and Soul and they are just excellent as a result. Not to mention how much they led to, Sonic The Hedgehog 3 for crying out loud.
 
I think the Loren tracks have potential. “Serious Effect” and “Superfly Sister” anre awesome, and “She Got It” is flat out excellent. “Work That Body” is a little rote and I don’t care for the little we’ve heard of “Don’t Believe It.” I think MJ was better served with Teddy at the end of the day.
To Satisfy You is also quite a smooth pretty song as well.

The Loren tracks would've been great next to Zapp and Roger stuff in the late 80s, but weren't quite progressive enough for the New Jack Swing Era.
 
I really believe we could get bad 40.

With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)

Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break


Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit
Isn't that Bad?
 
To Satisfy You is also quite a smooth pretty song as well.

The Loren tracks would've been great next to Zapp and Roger stuff in the late 80s, but weren't quite progressive enough for the New Jack Swing Era.
Does a solo version exist or it's just background vocals?
 
I really believe we could get bad 40.

With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)

Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break


Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit
Are You Ready and Cheat On You are definitely unfounded rumor. The latter grew out of speculation that Mase's identically-named track was recorded by MJ, but when I looked up its lyrics, I saw that it sampled "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough," so the MJ version of Cheat On You doesn't exist.

EDIT: Stand Tall does exist, but it was recorded by a session singer rather than MJ himself. It also comes from the Thriller era, not the Bad era.
 
I really believe we could get bad 40.

With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)

Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break


Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit
This feels like way too many good songs to leave on a disc 2. These few alone

Tomboy
Chicago 1945
Dream Away
Throwing Your Life Away
Buffalo Bill

Would easily have made the top 10 if they had been released in MJs career. They're worth sharing with more than the hardcore fans.

The rest would be good demoes though.
 
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