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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Alec said:
Mind Is The Magic -- a collab with Loren from around the same time they wrote MIB -- is one of my favorite MJ productions. The percussion is so intricate and wonderfully layered. But it's 100% a song that only works in good audio quality. Otherwise, there's just not much there to enjoy.

MJ clearly loved it too, since he brought it back for the concerts in 2009...
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It's funny how Bryan Loren hates that song so much but it's one of the very few songs of his that were used by MJ lol
 
Can’t you guys discuss the true possible masterpieces like dark lady, water, adore you and rocker instead of these slightly boring and uninspiring Loren tracks?
 
Agonum said:
Bryan hates Mind is the Magic?
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During his Paris seminar (and, I believe, his MJ Cast interview), he said he thought it was a terrible song and only contributed to it because MJ asked him to. I think he also said that MJ wrote and produced the entire thing solo, and his contributions basically boiled down to instruments and additional vocals.
 
AlwaysThere said:
During his Paris seminar (and, I believe, his MJ Cast interview), he said he thought it was a terrible song and only contributed to it because MJ asked him to. I think he also said that MJ wrote and produced the entire thing solo, and his contributions basically boiled down to instruments and additional vocals.
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Imo Mind Is the Magic is definitely one of the better Loren contributions. Don’t see why he hates it, especially when tracks like The Verdict exist.
 
Do we know about the state of completion of the Off The Wall outtakes? Is there a reason why there wasn't a disc 2 for the 2016 re-issue? It's curious how we have at least a handful of outtakes from every era but nothing from OTW.
 
do you even thing we are going to get a Bad 40 and Invincible 40? (if we DO get a Invincible 40 then I will be shocked and mad because why did they not release HIStory 40, Dangerous 40. They did nothing for H25 or D25)
 
@mjfanatic777 said:
do you even thing we are going to get a Bad 40 and Invincible 40? (if we DO get a Invincible 40 then I will be shocked and mad because why did they not release HIStory 40, Dangerous 40. They did nothing for H25 or D25)
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There's a decent chance that we'll get Bad 40, just expect it to be as half-assed as T40 lol.
 
Bad 40 honestly should have not entirely finished songs for its 2nd disc as to use the others for future releases
Songs like Crack kills, Changes, What You Do to Me, Tomboy, Be Me 4 A Day, Etc
 
MJbr2 said:
People like to trash Loren tracks, but they're fine. Seven Digits seems to be the strongest of the bunch.
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Some of them are decent but they're no match for Teddy Riley's tracks. Even his best songs are only good enough for re-issue albums and not for full albums like Xscape or Michael.
 
I said it on here not that long ago but I do think the Loren tracks have their own sound that I like, and if teddy hadn't came along maybe we'd have had an album with that consistent sound. Would have been its own thing and something I'd definitely enjoy, but nowhere near as good as what Teddy ended up doing.
 
I think the Loren tracks have potential. “Serious Effect” and “Superfly Sister” anre awesome, and “She Got It” is flat out excellent. “Work That Body” is a little rote and I don’t care for the little we’ve heard of “Don’t Believe It.” I think MJ was better served with Teddy at the end of the day.
 
Teddy's work is overrated imo. Not saying he didn't shift the direction Dangerous was gonna take in 1990, but he let the triad of fillers slide when they're as abysmal as the Loren tracks people mention.
 
I really believe we could get bad 40.

With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)

Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break


Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit
 
MJbr2 said:
Teddy's work is overrated imo. Not saying he didn't shift the direction Dangerous was gonna take in 1990, but he let the triad of fillers slide when they're as abysmal as the Loren tracks people mention.
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Absolutely not. Those Teddy Riley tracks are MJs homage to James Brown and Soul and they are just excellent as a result. Not to mention how much they led to, Sonic The Hedgehog 3 for crying out loud.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I think the Loren tracks have potential. “Serious Effect” and “Superfly Sister” anre awesome, and “She Got It” is flat out excellent. “Work That Body” is a little rote and I don’t care for the little we’ve heard of “Don’t Believe It.” I think MJ was better served with Teddy at the end of the day.
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To Satisfy You is also quite a smooth pretty song as well.

The Loren tracks would've been great next to Zapp and Roger stuff in the late 80s, but weren't quite progressive enough for the New Jack Swing Era.
 
PanterA90 said:
I really believe we could get bad 40.

With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)

Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break


Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit
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Isn't that Bad?
 
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