Mister_Jay_Tee
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Who truly heard Behind The Mask first, Quincy or Mike?
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Quincy first heard it while on a Japan trek in 1981, and brought it to Michael during the Thriller writing sessions.Who truly heard Behind The Mask first, Quincy or Mike?
Bryan hates Mind is the Magic?It's funny how Bryan Loren hates that song so much but it's one of the very few songs of his that were used by MJ lol
During his Paris seminar (and, I believe, his MJ Cast interview), he said he thought it was a terrible song and only contributed to it because MJ asked him to. I think he also said that MJ wrote and produced the entire thing solo, and his contributions basically boiled down to instruments and additional vocals.Bryan hates Mind is the Magic?
Imo Mind Is the Magic is definitely one of the better Loren contributions. Don’t see why he hates it, especially when tracks like The Verdict exist.During his Paris seminar (and, I believe, his MJ Cast interview), he said he thought it was a terrible song and only contributed to it because MJ asked him to. I think he also said that MJ wrote and produced the entire thing solo, and his contributions basically boiled down to instruments and additional vocals.
Verdict did not have vocals why you said existImo Mind Is the Magic is definitely one of the better Loren contributions. Don’t see why he hates it, especially when tracks like The Verdict exist.
Yeah, I love it personally. One of MJ’s weirder yet most interesting songs, particularly the percussion.Imo Mind Is the Magic is definitely one of the better Loren contributions. Don’t see why he hates it, especially when tracks like The Verdict exist.
Would love to hear it if you could PM me a linkAlso there is an completely different mix of the WBSS demo that exists
Do we know about the state of completion of the Off The Wall outtakes? Is there a reason why there wasn't a disc 2 for the 2016 re-issue? It's curious how we have at least a handful of outtakes from every era but nothing from OTW.
Guess we'll have to wait for Bad 40 to hear the real Thriller outtakes then.They had to save them to use them on T40![]()
Oh boy can't wait for Invincible 40 to hear the HIStory outtakes myselfGuess we'll have to wait for Bad 40 to hear the real Thriller outtakes then.
There's a decent chance that we'll get Bad 40, just expect it to be as half-assed as T40 lol.do you even thing we are going to get a Bad 40 and Invincible 40? (if we DO get a Invincible 40 then I will be shocked and mad because why did they not release HIStory 40, Dangerous 40. They did nothing for H25 or D25)
Some of them are decent but they're no match for Teddy Riley's tracks. Even his best songs are only good enough for re-issue albums and not for full albums like Xscape or Michael.People like to trash Loren tracks, but they're fine. Seven Digits seems to be the strongest of the bunch.
Absolutely not. Those Teddy Riley tracks are MJs homage to James Brown and Soul and they are just excellent as a result. Not to mention how much they led to, Sonic The Hedgehog 3 for crying out loud.Teddy's work is overrated imo. Not saying he didn't shift the direction Dangerous was gonna take in 1990, but he let the triad of fillers slide when they're as abysmal as the Loren tracks people mention.
To Satisfy You is also quite a smooth pretty song as well.I think the Loren tracks have potential. “Serious Effect” and “Superfly Sister” anre awesome, and “She Got It” is flat out excellent. “Work That Body” is a little rote and I don’t care for the little we’ve heard of “Don’t Believe It.” I think MJ was better served with Teddy at the end of the day.
Isn't that Bad?I really believe we could get bad 40.
With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)
Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break
Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit
Does a solo version exist or it's just background vocals?To Satisfy You is also quite a smooth pretty song as well.
The Loren tracks would've been great next to Zapp and Roger stuff in the late 80s, but weren't quite progressive enough for the New Jack Swing Era.
Are You Ready and Cheat On You are definitely unfounded rumor. The latter grew out of speculation that Mase's identically-named track was recorded by MJ, but when I looked up its lyrics, I saw that it sampled "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough," so the MJ version of Cheat On You doesn't exist.I really believe we could get bad 40.
With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)
Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break
Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit
This feels like way too many good songs to leave on a disc 2. These few aloneI really believe we could get bad 40.
With songs like
-turning me off
-Tomboy
-come together
-Be me for a day
-Crack kills
-Chicago 1945
-Dream Away
-What you do to me
-Throwing your life away
-Buffalo bill
-Eaten Alive (Solo)
-liberian girl (1983 version)
-another part of me (1984 version)
-dirty Diana (1983 version)
-We are here to change the world (1985 version in good quality)
-Al Capone (other version)
Songs that could be released
-Apocalypse boy
-Changes
-Far far away
-Make or break
Might be fake
-Are you ready
-Cheat on you
-Get into the groove
-stand tall
-The sky is the limit