Let's end the confusion about MJ's unreleased tracks here

What was the story behind Fly Away? That seems finished. That was recorded at Westlake, right? How close was that song to being put on the BAD album?
“Fly Away” is from Hayvenhurst—April 1986, if I’m not mistaken. Never made it to Westlake. The background is murky; all that’s known is that it didn’t make it very far during the Bad sessions, was given to Rebbie for her Yours Faithfully album, and eventually wound up on the 2001 reissue of Bad.
 
There's little to no information on which unreleased tracks (except SW & PoF) have been definitely worked on at Westlake, especially after work on the album had officially begun on January 5, 1987.
 
Chicago Nights is also seen in Moonwalker before Michael walks into the club….wasn’t that the working title?
My personal pet theory is that the song "Bad Company" is just related to the music video for Bad. Like a soundtrack score piece maybe.
 
What About Us vs Earth Song
Chicago 1945 vs Chicago Nights
And which title rolls off the tongue better? Chicago nineteen fourty-five or Chicago Nights? It'd be a good change here. Besides, let's not act like the song isn't already being altered against MJ's will when Porcaro himself has been making changes to the song for 10 years now.
 
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Not really about a specific track, but anyone knows what year this early Dangerous songs list could've been from?
 
And which title rolls off the tongue better? Chicago nineteen fourty-five or Chicago Nights? It'd be a good change here. Besides, let's not act like the song isn't already being altered against MJ's will when Porcaro himself has been making changes to the song for 10 years now.
Bro truthfully I don't care either way. I never care about either name change. I think we're just that badly starved that we gotta quibble about names they pick based on lyrics.
 
What was the story behind Fly Away? That seems finished. That was recorded at Westlake, right? How close was that song to being put on the BAD album?
I love Fly Away. I think Michael did a fantastic job on it, as did Rebbie in her own right. I would have loved if this was on the final Bad album. This is in my top 5 for the Bad era outtakes, behind Streetwalker & Price Of Fame.
 
There's little to no information on which unreleased tracks (except SW & PoF) have been definitely worked on at Westlake, especially after work on the album had officially begun on January 5, 1987.

I think Streetwalker is the only one that made it to WL….I can’t remember if it was Bruce, Brad or Rob but they confirmed it was little to no outtakes from Bad besides SW and everything else was cut during pre production
 
Bro truthfully I don't care either way. I never care about either name change. I think we're just that badly starved that we gotta quibble about names they pick based on lyrics.
Personally, I think Chicago 1945 is a better title as it indicates the setting and historical context- the lyrics about the 1945 World’s Fair, Al Capone, etc tie into that. Chicago Nights, obviously, does not do that. I also disagree with whoever said Chicago Nights is the better title, it’s too generic for me.
 
In situations where there is a song with a bunch of variations and reworks, I think a fun and engaging idea would be to reissue a bunch of them as individual singles/EPs, and include as many alternate cuts as B-sides. For example:

“Best of Joy” - EP
1. 2010 Album Version
2. 1981 Demo (“The Toy”)
3. 1991 Demo
4. 2008 Demo

“Little Susie” - EP
1. 1995 Album Version
2. 1978 Demo
3. 1995 Live Orchestra Version
 
In situations where there is a song with a bunch of variations and reworks, I think a fun and engaging idea would be to reissue a bunch of them as individual singles/EPs, and include as many alternate cuts as B-sides. For example:

“Best of Joy” - EP
1. 2010 Album Version
2. 1981 Demo (“The Toy”)
3. 1991 Demo
4. 2008 Demo

“Little Susie” - EP
1. 1995 Album Version
2. 1978 Demo
3. 1995 Live Orchestra Version
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In situations where there is a song with a bunch of variations and reworks, I think a fun and engaging idea would be to reissue a bunch of them as individual singles/EPs, and include as many alternate cuts as B-sides. For example:

“Best of Joy” - EP
1. 2010 Album Version
2. 1981 Demo (“The Toy”)
3. 1991 Demo
4. 2008 Demo

“Little Susie” - EP
1. 1995 Album Version
2. 1978 Demo
3. 1995 Live Orchestra Version
Even the idea of such releases would overwhelm the estate.
 
In situations where there is a song with a bunch of variations and reworks, I think a fun and engaging idea would be to reissue a bunch of them as individual singles/EPs, and include as many alternate cuts as B-sides. For example:

“Best of Joy” - EP
1. 2010 Album Version
2. 1981 Demo (“The Toy”)
3. 1991 Demo
4. 2008 Demo

“Little Susie” - EP
1. 1995 Album Version
2. 1978 Demo
3. 1995 Live Orchestra Version
i'd love to see something like this with don't be messin' 'round tbh. it's not my fav really but since there's a version made for almost every album it'd be fun to see the song's evolution
 
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Not really about a specific track, but anyone knows what year this early Dangerous songs list could've been from?

This album would've been all over the place had this been the final list

Anyone have the other side of the page?
 
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also i don't really think this would be the track list, maybe just a list of songs he considered finishing
I'm sure it would've been rearranged to be cohesive but some of these songs would clash if they were together on an album....I also wonder what that duet is....the leak from Brad showed a Janet/MJ duet from 1990
 
I think Streetwalker is the only one that made it to WL….I can’t remember if it was Bruce, Brad or Rob but they confirmed it was little to no outtakes from Bad besides SW and everything else was cut during pre production
So did Mike present Q and Bruce with the 30 odd demos he had worked on by January 1987, then between the three of them picked the 12 they felt were strong enough to work on?

If that's the case, I'm not sure how much credit the "A Team" deserve for the Bad album. Sounds more like polishing than producing in my book
 
I'm sure it would've been rearranged to be cohesive but some of these songs would clash if they were together on an album....I also wonder what that duet is....the leak from Brad showed a Janet/MJ duet from 1990
To set the record straight on both your posts, that was a work list from late 1990/early 1991, not a real tracklist. And the "MA and MJ duet" refers to the original plan for In the Closet, which was meant to have a feature from Madonna.
 
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I still can't get over how TDCAU was made in the Dangerous era, and on top of that (I think Matt Forger was the one who said it?) it's basically the same as the HIStory version. The mid 80's-early 90's was MJ's most creative era.
 
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Personally, I think Chicago 1945 is a better title as it indicates the setting and historical context- the lyrics about the 1945 World’s Fair, Al Capone, etc tie into that. Chicago Nights, obviously, does not do that. I also disagree with whoever said Chicago Nights is the better title, it’s too generic for me.
Agreed. Though Chicago Nights sounds smoother, 1945 gives more meaning to the title. Chicago 1945 puts me directly into the setting just by reading the title. Chicago Nights can be a modern day Chicago nightlife meaning for all I know

In situations where there is a song with a bunch of variations and reworks, I think a fun and engaging idea would be to reissue a bunch of them as individual singles/EPs, and include as many alternate cuts as B-sides. For example:

“Best of Joy” - EP
1. 2010 Album Version
2. 1981 Demo (“The Toy”)
3. 1991 Demo
4. 2008 Demo

“Little Susie” - EP
1. 1995 Album Version
2. 1978 Demo
3. 1995 Live Orchestra Version
Also agreed. The EPs potentials are huge for MJ imo and would be a great way to "milk" songs because Michael often have demos and alt. versions available of songs, spanning not over just a few years, but decades.

But this is something they should've done long ago. Not too late, but a lot of potential releases are gone due to versions being released over time.

Imagine a simple nice EP with a song, different versions, direct words from people who worked on the songs. Maybe some HQ photos. Maybe videos. Just, release anything related to it, that exist. I'm not saying I'm going to bang my head for each version, every day. But it's an interesting way of release and showcasing Mike's art.

Simultaneously, they can work on albums/cds with more songs if they want
 
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