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Michael Jackson have never lied about his surgeries?

I actually agree, I think MJ counted the nose and the chin cleft as surgeries and the rest as reconstructive or minor procedures, so from that viewpoint he was not lying, having only 2 surgeries. But it's a bit of a childish deflection and also stupid since it would backfire no matter what
 
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I don't think, that Michael lied. He was too innocent to be a liar... He just didn't want to talk about reconstructive surgeries
 
Michael Afton said:
I don't think, that Michael lied. He was too innocent to be a liar... He just didn't want to talk about reconstructive surgeries
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The narrative that Michael was a scared little vulnerable boy who was a saint and did nothing wrong does not sit with me ...sorry.

He didn't get to where he was by being naive. The man could be ruthless and had the power to do anything.
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
The narrative that Michael was a scared little vulnerable boy who was a saint and did nothing wrong does not sit with me ...sorry.

He didn't get to where he was by being naive. The man could be ruthless and had the power to do anything.
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Michael Jackson was also very capable of not revealing certain things about his personal life.
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That's all lies.
Btw, in his last year's he had some facial features similar to his father....
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One has to simply look at all these big changes (over the years) of his facial structure in order to understand that Michael Jackson went overboard with his plastic cosmetic surgeries.

All these big changes of his facial structure are not solely because of his natural aging.

Also, American politician Donald Trump (who was a close friend of Michael Jackson) confirmed to Josh Mankiewicz that the singer did the wrong thing when it came to plastic surgeries.
 
Andymachine said:
Of course he was not telling the truth about his surgeries but the real point who's business is it anyway ?
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Whether it's from plain rudeness or natural curiosity, I think Michael can expect some questions from the public about his face and skin, being in front of millions as he was. It's obvious it's a sensitive topic for him, but if he truly wanted no questions about his face, he could have arranged that in his contract. He knew it would come up and he had his answers (lies) ready.
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
I have been wanting to talk about something relating to his nose surgeries for quite some time now but I’ve never quite found the appropriate time and I didn’t think it merited a thread of its own but here it goes.

So from what I have gathered throughout the years of researching all things MJ throughout the years is that MJ’s nose was suffering from a collapsed bridge. Not too long ago I was watching some documentary about plastic surgery and one of the doctors said something to the effect that after a rhinoplasty it’s very important to not put stress on the nose and avoid from wearing glasses and stuff like that. My mind immediately went to Michael. As everyone knows Michael wore glasses religiously throughout his entire life. It didn’t matter if it was in the studio, live or in other candid appearances. Those aviator glasses became somewhat of a staple, just as much as his fedora.

Now my question is, do you think that him constantly wearing glasses had some kind of effect and contributed to his nose condition? This is purely speculation as we cannot truly know but still an interesting angle to look from.
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Unless he was rocking 20 lb(9,000 grams) Aviator shades, sunglasses have 0% chance of affecting the structure of someone's nose
 
He may have looked different - not only by some minor surgeries but weight loss, change of hairstyle and makeup, getting older, vitiligo. Also some people, due to the texture of their skin, can look different even with a minor non-surgical change.

This may not sound overly interesting but I used to have thick, bushy eyebrows and when I plucked them into thinner shapes, I looked different and people did not recognise me and had to double-look. And all I did was shorten my eyebrows!

I know some people who seem to “morph” when they do a new hairstyle or lose/ gain weight or change their makeup routine. I think that having thick, velvety facial skin gives that illusion of changing. I know an Italian who looks a different person than 2-3 years before and all he did was change his hairstyle and remove his moustache. I think his facial skin texture gave that illusion of looking a different person.

Some people of any race/ ethnicity can have thick, velvety skin.
 
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StarlightXX said:
He may have looked different - not only by some minor surgeries but weight loss, change of hairstyle and makeup, getting older, vitiligo. Also some people, due to the texture of their skin, can look different even with a minor non-surgical change.

This may not sound overly interesting but I used to have thick, bushy eyebrows and when I plucked them into thinner shapes, I looked different and people did not recognise me. And all I did was shorten my eyebrows!

I know some people who seem to “morph” when they do a new hairstyle or lose/ gain weight or change their makeup routine. I think that having thick facial skin gives that illusion and having thick skin texture gives that illusion of changing.
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Idk.... in 1991 from jan-oct idk wtf mj did & I'll never understand. Look at him with Madonna at the oscars & then look at him on the black or white set...something is drastically different!! I wish I could point out what he did differently.
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Michael didn't really change since middle of 80s. He just started to use more makeup, eyelashes, lipstick and wigs. But he kept his face untouched until his very death
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Michael Afton said:
Michael didn't really change since middle of 80s. He just started to use more makeup, eyelashes, lipstick and wigs. But he kept his face untouched until his very death
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His lips & smile were completely different by then & that cover on ebony is photoshopped a ton
 

Michael Afton said:
Michael didn't really change since middle of 80s. He just started to use more makeup, eyelashes, lipstick and wigs. But he kept his face untouched until his very death
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To say his face didn't change in that time is deluded. I don't know why people deny it. It's absolutely his choice and it's not necessary a negative.

His face was totally different. Look at 2001!
 
Michael Afton said:
Michael didn't really change since middle of 80s. He just started to use more makeup, eyelashes, lipstick and wigs. But he kept his face untouched until his very death
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Delusional or what.... Honestly Richard76 you are a cracker..

His worst picture is his mugshot , I don't know how to post it, now compare that pic to 87 and tell me there's not much difference.
 
To me, there didn't seem to be much change (other than hair, vitiligo etc) UNTIL 2001. It was drastic at that point.
 
Shaneymp said:
To say his face didn't change in that time is deluded. I don't know why people deny it. It's absolutely his choice and it's not necessary a negative.

His face was totally different. Look at 2001!
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That's a delusion. Michael didn't really change. He just started to look different
 
Shaneymp said:
To say his face didn't change in that time is deluded. I don't know why people deny it. It's absolutely his choice and it's not necessary a negative.

His face was totally different. Look at 2001!
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In 2001 I'd argue he was straight up ill in addition. So there was a much heavier angle. Around 2002 he did look the same, smile aside.
 
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