Tour was never planned for this album. Michael said, that he didn't want to tour. Though he planned a few performances to promote Invincible album. For example he planned to perform Whatever Happens liveInvincible sold 3 million in 4-5 days, physical CD's, it had a promotion budget of 25 million. This was slashed to nothing, due to conflict with Sony. Thriller, Bad, Dangerous all sold 32+ million however MJ performed in the United States numerous times to promote those albums & had Music videos. History he did no north american promotion or performances, it was down.
Obviously no tour was happening in 2001, due to 9/11. But let's say at the end of the year he holds a press conference and says he's doing his final tour in the United States starting next year, it would be a huge international deal & he'd sell out all 50 shows instantly. Sales would also spike domestically which is where he struggled since Dangerous
Under these circumstances, he would have sold 30 million very easily which is what all of his other albums did, other than History which is just below that. Depending on him not getting involved with Martin Bashir,
It appears that there were such plans around that time.Obviously no tour was happening in 2001, due to 9/11. But let's say at the end of the year he holds a press conference and says he's doing his final tour in the United States starting next year, it would be a huge international deal & he'd sell out all 50 shows instantly. Sales would also spike domestically which is where he struggled since Dangerous
Probably Michael Jackson planned to perform Whatever Happens and You Rock My World on these performances, I guess? At least these are only songs he wanted to perform from Invincible albumAlso, in 2002 (February) the singer backed out of a commitment to appear on a 10-day promotional tour (for that album) in various European countries.
MJ stated it sold 10 million within the first 12 months.What did it end up selling, 8 million?
Probably, with no tour, without a strong lead single, and no videos, the most it could have sold was... 8 million.
We're just gonna have to accept that MJ in 2001 wasn't the big draw he once was. Plus with every song being R&B, he alienated a large portion of his fanbase.
And it's fine. Not everything can sell 10 million copies. It's really fine.
Terminator was a big hit, but that doesn't mean every Schwarzenegger film is successful...
Was MJ's health good enough to perform 50 shows then?Keep in mind that the music industry at that time faced a recession, mostly because of Internet piracy and consumers who started making their own CDs, instead of buying the original ones.
It appears that there were such plans around that time.
According to Los Angeles Times, in 2001 Michael Jackson agreed to a proposed concert tour in the U.S. and Europe in order to promote the 'Invincible' album, but later he changed his mind.
Also, in 2002 (February) the singer backed out of a commitment to appear on a 10-day promotional tour (for that album) in various European countries.
It was a decent album. That could easily become iconicWhat did it end up selling, 8 million?
Probably, with no tour, without a strong lead single, and no videos, the most it could have sold was... 8 million.
We're just gonna have to accept that MJ in 2001 wasn't the big draw he once was. Plus with every song being R&B, he alienated a large portion of his fanbase.
And it's fine. Not everything can sell 10 million copies. It's really fine.
Terminator was a big hit, but that doesn't mean every Schwarzenegger film is successful...
According to the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, that number is closer to 6 million.MJ stated it sold 10 million within the first 12 months.
The official numbers for his albums after a year of Invincible's release wasBut... MJ doesn't know. Sony doesn't know. They're not the ones selling to members of the public. Record companies don't know what happens after the CDs get to record stores. Plus we know Sony lies all the time.
Sales figures have to come from somebody independent. A 3rd party.
The RIAA and BPI/RIAJ/etc are the only ones who can provide true sales figures.
Yes, and during the 90s Michael repeatedly said that it had sold 100 million. Can you see that the reason for this is that MJ DOES NOT KNOW HOW MANY COPIES GET SOLD? He has no way to know - he does not work in retail, and has no connections to any of these industry associations.Thriller - 58 Million
You just said 10 million?Invincible - 8 Million
Michael said himself Thriller sold 60 million on the Private Home Movies. Which was aired in 2003, which is exactly what it was at during the time.Yes, and during the 90s Michael repeatedly said that it had sold 100 million. Can you see that the reason for this is that MJ DOES NOT KNOW HOW MANY COPIES GET SOLD? He has no way to know - he does not work in retail, and has no connections to any of these industry associations.
As I said above, that's the total NOW.
Again, after a year on sale, according to the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, that number is closer to 6 million.
No no no. Butterflies song is not good enough to spend money on video for this song. Single would be enough"You Rock My World" did alright as a lead single. Top 10 in almost every country worldwide.
"Butterflies" was top 15 in America. The issue is that it was only released in America and there was no video. It should have been released worldwide and it should have had a video.
Releasing "Cry" as a single in any country was a mistake. "Whatever Happens" should have been the last single worldwide and had a video.
Other than that? MJ should have done more televised appearances to promote the album. Perform at the 2002 Grammy's, BET Awards and do more interviews. With all of that, yeah, I think it might have at least hit 10 million.
What song on Invincible is so undeniable that it's going to have crossover mainstream appeal? I can't name a single one.
I think You Rock My World is the album's 'bomb'. It's quite catchy.Every other album he has has that absolute bomb (or multiple).
Many of them have bought 5 copies due to the albums "limited" cover colours.The die hard Michael Jackson fans bought the album so that should give you an idea of how many of those there are out there.
Heartbreaker is one of the best songs, Michael have ever recorded. It's catchy. But it's too weak for a single. For me it's like I Can't Let Her Get Away from DangerousCan’t Get You Out of My Head was the much bigger hit at the time YRMW came out. And I get it why. CGYOOMH sounds more catchy than YRMW, more up-tempo, has an innovative video. Maybe Heartbreaker or 2000 Watts could've filled that role.
But did you see my part in bold?Michael said himself
That's what I was trying to say. Never before have so many songs by so many different producers sounded so homogeneous.Invincible had a collection of "nice" songs mixed with a bunch of average filler songs that all sounded the same. It was a directionless and pointless album on the whole.
And that's exactly what happened. Every MJ album will always sell at least 5 or 6 million copies, for no other reason than simply because it's a MJ album.But how many copies could it have sold? I think the copies it sold was about the amount he could sell just on name alone. The die hard Michael Jackson fans bought the album so that should give you an idea of how many of those there are out there.
Exactly. But how catchy would you think it was if you weren't a MJ fan?I think You Rock My World is the album's 'bomb'. It's quite catchy.
exactlyHeartbreaker is one of the best songs, Michael have ever recorded. It's catchy. But it's too weak for a single. For me it's like I Can't Let Her Get Away from Dangerous
Heartbreaker is so fast, it almost sounds like a Teddy Riley song.
I like both producers. And it was Riley, who introduced Jerkins to Michael.
I dont agree. Unbreakable and Heartbreaker are kick-ass! Invincible is ok, but after Heartbreaker it's anticlimatic, because it has a slower rhythm.
Heartbreaker is the perfect climax to Unbreakable. Like TDCAU to Scream.
Heartbreaker was also visionary and innovative: