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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Ganesh said:
I remember getting frustrated with a user called Ivy many years ago who thought exactly the same. She was adamant that it was MJ and our hearing was shot.
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I first heard the album in 2011, i could tell they were fake back then.
 
Fuzball said:
I assume Bottrell's contribution didn't fit LA Reid's criteria of completely reimagining MJ songs.
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I would love to hear the differences between the remixes Bill made for Michael and Xscape, can't imagine they sound so different if they follow the same idea of polishing up existing mixes instead of remixing the song entirely.
 
Hot_Street said:
When I heard the song for the first time, it made me feel so happy. But of course you would have to shorten it to 3 minutes.
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This sums up If You Don't Love Me perfectly, it makes you feel happy as the listener. It's not deep or a heavy subject, it's just a fun pop song.
It feels very Motown
 
Ganesh said:
I remember getting frustrated with a user called Ivy many years ago who thought exactly the same. She was adamant that it was MJ and our hearing was shot.
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Korgnex’s case is even funnier though because he at one point bragged about his supposedly more experienced ears and how no MJ impersonator could ever fool him to fans back when Michael was released.
 
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Ganesh said:
I remember getting frustrated with a user called Ivy many years ago who thought exactly the same. She was adamant that it was MJ and our hearing was shot.
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Do you remember how it was known how the estate was employing shills to say the Cascio tracks were real? Im pretty sure Ivy was one of those stooges
 
Dilan said:
Do you remember how it was known how the estate was employing shills to say the Cascio tracks were real? Im pretty sure Ivy was one of those stooges
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MJSTAR definitely were. They were deleting articles and I'm sure a few of them got given preview tickets to see The Immortal show before opening night.
 
I really don't like it, Adore You, Monster and that little edited snippet from Rocker impressed me the most.

Still, it's amazing that we've heard four of the tracks that were part of the holy grail
 
Saka21 said:
I really don't like it, Adore You, Monster and that little edited snippet from Rocker impressed me the most.

Still, it's amazing that we've heard four of the tracks that were part of the holy grail
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They're not bad. But I still consider the holy grail to be Buffalo Bill, Tomboy, and Make or Break. BAD era outtakes.
 
For If you Don't Love Me, I think it needs an even breezier, lighter instrumentation. It needs to go full bubblegum pop.
 
One of the most fascinating bits from the Faking Michael podcast to me is how "Water" might have been inspired by a cover of a song from the 1930's called "Cool Water", and honestly I can see some parallels with it. Maybe this could give us an idea on how the verses would've sounded like?
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Water” is so simple, but as a little preview of how MJ’s songwriting skills held up, it’s goddamn impressive. Super catchy. I’m dying to hear more of his post-trial originals. That, to me, is the golden era because so little is known.
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It's actually a good evolution of his songwriting; just this one hook is catchy in a way stuff hasn't been aside from his biggest hits: Shake Your Body, WBSS, Beat It, Human Nature, Remember The Time, Smooth Criminal, Black or White, Billie Jean.

I love most everything else but it was oftentimes more complex. Still catchy. But this one, it really would've been up there, it, and Hollywood Tonight.
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Water” is so simple, but as a little preview of how MJ’s songwriting skills held up, it’s goddamn impressive. Super catchy. I’m dying to hear more of his post-trial originals. That, to me, is the golden era because so little is known.
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Indeed; I’m especially curious to see how MJ’s music from that time period holds up to today’s stuff in terms of production.
 
I don't think Water is a bad song, in fact I like how you can notice new sounds the more you listen to it (it took me a lot of listens to hear that synth choir) but it isn't really my thing. Honestly I'm starting to grow tired with the way that all the music we got from the 2000's so far are ballads, I'm dying to hear something from that era that has more intensity. I need angry voice.

If I had to choose between listening to this song or listening a song like Rocker, Dark Lady (not sure if this one is uptempo but from the descriptions it seems like it might be) or any of the RedOne tracks I'd go for those anytime.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Why hasn't the Estate offered to let Pharrell to do a project? I think his sensibilities would line up much more naturally than Timbaland, and he loves MJ on top of that.

Maybe that's not his speed though.
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One of their best decisions methinks. Keep Pharrell and his Fisher Price keyboard as far away from anything MJ as possible.
 
Billyjeanplxiv said:
For If you Don't Love Me, I think it needs an even breezier, lighter instrumentation. It needs to go full bubblegum pop.
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Yeah I guess it was meant to sound like a Motown/Phil Sspector-type track, maybe the Dap Kings could help out
 
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