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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Guys, any chance that Michael sang a reference demo of 'I heard it throuh the grapevine' for the California Raisins ad..?
 
offthewallontheline said:
Is 'All I Need' a fake one?
I like it so much.
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All of the tracks you hear with that impersonator are fake. Some were written to be presented to Michael for the upcoming album he was working on before he died but that's about it. Others were either created after his death or had been written years prior for other artists but then rewritten to fit Michael's POV.
 
Sisoqqq said:
Yes he did it there is video snippet
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Those snippets are with vocals from an impersonator because of label issues? I mean real MJ vocals of 'I heard It through the Grapevine': there must be a demo version as a reference for the impersonator somewhere?
 
Speaking of Raisins, here's a quick storyboard

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My girlfriend has a newborn niece and I am determined to introduce her to Michael Jackson (when she’s old enough to understand) by showing her Thriller, the claymation segment of “Speed Demon,” and nothing else. I want to paint the picture that MJ dropped the best selling album of all time, became a rabbit, then dipped, and I won’t explain why.
 
AlwaysThere said:
My girlfriend has a newborn niece and I am determined to introduce her to Michael Jackson (when she’s old enough to understand) by showing her Thriller, the claymation segment of “Speed Demon,” and nothing else. I want to paint the picture that MJ dropped the best selling album of all time, became a rabbit, then dipped, and I won’t explain why.
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This is exactly how I understood Michael Jackson for the first decade of my life actually. This will work. Add Unbreakable in the mix as well, that piano riff will haunt them for life as well.
 
AlwaysThere said:
My girlfriend has a newborn niece and I am determined to introduce her to Michael Jackson (when she’s old enough to understand) by showing her Thriller, the claymation segment of “Speed Demon,” and nothing else. I want to paint the picture that MJ dropped the best selling album of all time, became a rabbit, then dipped, and I won’t explain why.
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and when she asks where he went, say "he went THATAWAY!"
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SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I listened to On The Line this morning and I forgot how much I love that song. I wish Mike had done more soulful tracks like this in his later career because his older voice really suited that kind of gospel style vibe.

I wonder if that's where the 1998-99 sessions were heading before the album changed direction?
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Agreed—outstanding song.

I feel like the pre-Darkchild sessions had a much more soulful, urban R&V sound. You had songs like “Blue Gangsta” and “Hollywood Tonight” meshed with “Beautiful Girl” and “The Way You Love Me.” I would love to see if MJ had a preferred list of songs from that period, or even a rough 1999 track list draft.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I listened to On The Line this morning and I forgot how much I love that song. I wish Mike had done more soulful tracks like this in his later career because his older voice really suited that kind of gospel style vibe.

I wonder if that's where the 1998-99 sessions were heading before the album changed direction?
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A lot of the songs MJ wrote in his later years had this genre leaning. I think it's fair to say his songwriting had changed; Bad did urgent 80s synth pop, Dangerous went for New Jack Swing on one side and then pretty eclectic stuff on the latter half. HIStory has the unifying theme of rallying anti-media/social consciousness, and Blood was all Gothic Pop. That leaves everything in the 2000s to open up to the more straight forward, refreshing emotionally open stuff again, and the more mature, life experience stuff. I might be rambling a bit but I do love a lot of these songs, stuff like The Loser and Days in Glochesteshire. Meshed very well with stuff like Best of Joy. And then him reaching back for compatible songs from every era was a great touch as well.
 
AlwaysThere said:
My girlfriend has a newborn niece and I am determined to introduce her to Michael Jackson (when she’s old enough to understand) by showing her Thriller, the claymation segment of “Speed Demon,” and nothing else. I want to paint the picture that MJ dropped the best selling album of all time, became a rabbit, then dipped, and I won’t explain why.
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Oh, my daughter saw Moonwalker when she was 4 (she's almost 6 now) and she still asks to watch the play-doh rabbit 🤣
 
ChanceToDance said:
It's from a Reddit AMA made by an Assistant Audio Engineer who worked on HIStory.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MichaelJackson/comments/bhi3u6/_/elt99gn
"Yes actually. I didn't hear many tracks that were cut, but two stuck out to me. Basszouille, which had circus vibes in an orchestral type way. It sounds a lot like Little Susie because the texture of instruments is the same. Another was a cover of Tom Jone's Delilah, but funky with a swingbeat."
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I believe that Delilah exists. The theme from the Bible is a topic that Michael has worked on a lot in his songs and he has also spoken about it in the The Michael Jackson Tapes:
MJ: It is hard because the women today can do a good job of faking it. I mean a real good job. They are smooth. Look in the Bible. Women have taken the most powerful men down to nothing because of what is between their legs. Samson, nobody could cut his hair, and he had sex with Delilah.
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ChanceToDance said:
Kind of new info on Make Or Break? Bill says he can't recall the verses having lyrics on them. The song is probably on a similar level of completion as songs like Family Thing/In The Back/Rocker by the looks of it.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1877912141816058153

Bill also implied he's currently still writing his book on another tweet.
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I've seen "For God's Sake" tied to title of Make or Break. I wonder if that's another lyric to the song?
 
ChanceToDance said:
Kind of new info on Make Or Break? Bill says he can't recall the verses having lyrics on them. The song is probably on a similar level of completion as songs like Family Thing/In The Back/Rocker by the looks of it.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1877912141816058153

Bill also implied he's currently still writing his book on another tweet.
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I believe Joe Vogel said this one had full vocals. Maybe it was worked on after/without Bill?
 
ChanceToDance said:
Kind of new info on Make Or Break? Bill says he can't recall the verses having lyrics on them. The song is probably on a similar level of completion as songs like Family Thing/In The Back/Rocker by the looks of it.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1877912141816058153

Bill also implied he's currently still writing his book on another tweet.
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AlwaysThere said:
I believe Joe Vogel said this one had full vocals. Maybe it was worked on after/without Bill?
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Bill and John both confirmed the song was incomplete but Bill says verse lyrics aren't sung so it's safe to assume the verses are just mumbles

Joe said full vocals but not full lyrics.

It's like DIG. The verses are full with a complete chorus but there's no actual lyrics for the verses
 
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