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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

IhateTheMedia said:
There's literally no way in hell anything related to Michael Jackson bombs
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One thing that I think would be interesting for them to include is this:

Michael: [...] with Motown, cause they tell you, in the interviews, when we used to go on Carson or Mike Douglas or whatever back then, when we used to do interviews as the Jackson 5, you know when you're in this kind of business they kinda like, they like… ok, if you’re asked "Do you have a girlfriend?" "No."

Then they could show how fans were mad at his brothers when they got married. Motown's public relation strategy of always denying that they had a girlfriend so they would appear available for female fans and the negative reaction of the fans when his brothers got married no doubt had a huge influence on Michael later keeping his relationships with women very private, which resulted in people believing he had no interest in women and that his marriage to Lisa-Marie was a sham and just a publicity stunt. When the media found out they got married in secret, Michael originally wanted to deny that the rumors were true and keep his marriage secret like his sister Janet did (for 9 years!!), but Lisa-Marie didn't want to play that game and so they ended up confirming the marriage. If the movie shows that Michael actually married Lisa-Marie in secret and originally intended to keep it that way, it would destroy the media narrative that their marriage was a publicity stunt. How can it be a publicity stunt when Michael didn't even want people to know about it?
 
webslinger said:
meh, i’m not worried. iron man’s (2008) script was being written as they were filming, and we got a banger out of that. just let them cook, if it sucks or if its great or mid, we’ll find out
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That's such a funny anecdote but you're so right. Sure, what the heck
 
a lot of great movies go through development hell, i’m tapped in to a lot of superhero stuff (if you couldn’t tell from my username lol), and another example is spider-man 2 (2004) being in limbo because tobey maguire severely injured his back. jake gyllenhal was being looked at to replace him, but eventually we got arguably one of the greatest superhero films of all time with tobey remaining the star.
 
webslinger said:
a lot of great movies go through development hell, i’m tapped in to a lot of superhero stuff (if you couldn’t tell from my username lol), and another example is spider-man 2 (2004) being in limbo because tobey maguire severely injured his back. jake gyllenhal was being looked at to replace him, but eventually we got arguably one of the greatest superhero films of all time with tobey remaining the star.
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I think we should all give this movie the benefit of the doubt until we see footage, and have official word from Lionsgate themselves on what will be in the film and length
 
IhateTheMedia said:
Doesn't matter, the assholes in the media will still trash it for daring to depict Michael as innocent which is what they would have done anyway in the weeks and months of bombarding us with nonstop hit pieces. We don't know what will happen regarding the first allegations in the movie but they already shot scenes for the strip search, i presume two movies is what will happen. All of this speculation and doom & gloom is silly, the Musical is top 20 all time on Broadway despite releasing after his 2019, MJ One has grossed close to 1 billion by now, Immortal made nearly 400 million. Michael is a unshakeable & unrivaled colossus in the world of culture. When it comes out it will be huge
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2011-2025 nearly 15 millions tickets sold
for the official live show.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Some new details on the behind the scenes of the Michael movie. Main takeaways is that there's 1 hour and 45 minutes of footage of Jaafar's performances alone, the writer is still in the process of rewriting the script for a possible two-film narrative, and Universal has yet to see a full cut of the film (they've only seen 20 minutes of footage) and the revised script. It's being a total mess.

People have had doubts about this journalist since they got the Chris Brown's tribute performance at the AMA awards cancelled but they were the first ones to break the news about the delay a while ago, and every time they post something about the biopic it gets shared by other news media shortly after, so at this point it's safe to say they're credible.
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Nothing this person said has been proven true and him saying the biopic was going to be delayed proves nothing since movies get delayed all the time.

Not one thing in that first article and this new one has been verified. Even his reason for the delays has not been verified. He is still writing as if the movie is in serious trouble, he writes with a negative slant.

While everything we've heard from lionsgate implies that the exact opposite, that they are very happy with the movie they want expand it and to split it in two!

Two movies!!

It's amazing that the media has so much power over people's minds they have successfully gaslit people into thinking the biopic being split in 2 is a bad thing and a indicator that the movie is in trouble or as Baloney put it "nobody seems to have any idea what the heck the Michael movie is actually going to be now."


The guy admits that lionsgate and King ignored all his requests for comments, so where the hell is he getting his info from then? Certainly not anyone credible.
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
Only rumours but I’m starting to believe what some of this guy is coming out with.

There may be twisted wires but he’s been correct so far with delays , movie split into two and other bits and pieces.

This entire project has turned into a complete mess due to the Jordy stuff being erased. To me, the movie is fucked as it will not address allegations. A truly wasted opportunity to set the record straight.

I hate to be negative but I now think this film will bomb.
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This guy isn't even the one who first reporting the movie would be split though....
 
Hot_Street said:
This is precisely why the biopic must be faithful to the truth in every detail. For example, it should include the original phone call from Evan Chandler. The more detail, the more believable.
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Nothing from the Chandler allegations will be in this movie. It’s all been cut, hence the filming of additional scenes.
 
I decided to respond to baloney's article
International distribution is up in the air as ‘Michael’ faces a legal setback, rewrites, and reshoots. But the real problem is that nobody seems to have any idea what the heck the movie is actually going to be, or even if it’s going to be released as a single movie at all.
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Notice how this guy frames the possibility of there being 2 movies as a bad thing? This is called manipulation. Two movies actually means Lionsgate has a lot of faith in the movie, but he want's you to believe this is a troubling thing.

Lately, producer Graham King has been chatting with Skydance’s David Ellison about an intriguing potential opportunity—taking over international distribution of Michael. Lionsgate is handling the U.S. release of the controversial and twice-delayed Michael Jackson movie—or movies, depending on what happens during the next few weeks of a wild and fairly unprecedented scramble—while Universal is set to distribute in foreign territories, where the project will likely earn the majority of its box office.
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Is it really a "wild and fairly unprecedented scramble"?? or is it just being framed that way by hostile journalists??

Most movies now a days have delays and reshoots. It's not something unique to this movie. But again this Baloney guy wants you to believe it is unique and troublesome.

But either or both studios can opt out if Michael becomes something materially different from the $150 million musical biopic they agreed to help make and distribute. Lionsgate, freshly separated from Starz and seeking its own sale, desperately needs potential tentpoles like the M.J. movie—even with the headaches it has entailed for film chair Adam Fogelson. But Universal is substantially less thirsty, especially with a packed 2026 release slate that includes three animated franchises and big movies from Chris Nolan, Jordan Peele, and Steven Spielberg.
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Who said the movie has been a headache other than Baloney and other hostile journalists?

So Team Ellison, if they gain control of Paramount—Trump-willing, of course—and if the deal terms make sense, want to put themselves in the right spot to step in for Universal. (A Skydance rep declined to comment.) And if not Paramount, maybe Warner Bros. or Amazon, which is building its international distribution group and already has a pay TV output deal with Lionsgate. And if no studio bites, Lionsgate could even distribute Michael worldwide itself, using a network similar to its foreign partners on the John Wick and Hunger Games movies.

Why does this matter? Scheduling aside, why wouldn’t Universal want this high-profile and potentially very lucrative movie? After all, Jackson is still a massive music star overseas, and his legacy outside the U.S. is far less tarnished by the allegations of pedophilia and the court cases that dogged him during the last third of his life. But the problem—
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Of course he has to mention "pedophilia" to tarnish Michael.

as I first mentioned back in January, when I broke the extraordinary news that the film’s entire third act had to be rewritten and re-shot due to the overlooked terms of a settlement between the Jackson estate and a child-abuse accuser—is that nobody seems to have any idea what the heck the Michael movie is actually going to be now.
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This claim has yet to be confirmed. And even if they reshot and rewrote the 3rd act theres still no evidence that it had anything to do with the settlement or that they removed anything about the allegations.
Certainly not Donna Langley and Jimmy Horowitz, the Universal studio chief and top dealmaker, who signed on with the understanding that this would be one movie, and it would be released in 2025. The screenplay by John Logan celebrated Jackson’s life and music, but it also addressed the allegations against him, painting a fuller picture of the star—even if, as I revealed when I read a near-final draft last year,
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I HIGHLY doubt that this guy, of all people got his hands on a near final script. And only him and other hostile enemies of Michael like Dan Reed apparently. Nobody else got a copy? OK.

He might have gotten an older first draft if he got anything at all. Perhaps even a fake script was leaked to him to mess with him. But that real script was most certainly under lock and key you can bet on that

the script went to great lengths to paint Jackson as a victim of nefarious parents willing to leverage false accusations for a payout.
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So in other words it told the truth, something Baloney and his ILK are dreading.

But now? Lionsgate C.E.O. Jon Feltheimer confirmed last week what we all knew months ago: The movie isn’t hitting its October 3 release date, which was already pushed from April due to the required reshoots.
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Again so what? Films almost always get delayed now a days. This is not unique to this biopic.

The revised third act is written, and director Antoine Fuqua has set three weeks of additional photography starting next week in and around Los Angeles. Yet the specific Jackson accuser in the original script—Jordan Chandler, whose claims of molestation at Neverland Ranch generated a massive settlement that also prevented his case from ever being dramatized in exactly the way Michael originally ended—has now been scrubbed.
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And he knows this how??? Who is his source? Cause he says later in this article that Lionsgate and King ignored him.......

It’s not clear how Logan ends the movie, but Universal still has not seen the revised script and has been shown only about 20 minutes of footage. (A studio rep declined to comment, as did King’s publicist Katie Schroeder, who initially asked me for detailed questions and then disappeared.)
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So what is the source for this when he just said himself that Lionsgate and King's people ignored and ghosted him????? He just admitted that the people making the movie refused to talk to him, so where is he getting this info??

I'm I crazy? Or did this dude just unintentionally admit that made this shit up?

Meanwhile, King is pushing hard to split the project into two movies. I’m told there’s about an hour and 45 minutes of performances alone starring Jaafar Jackson, Jackson’s nephew, and King thinks the footage and M.J.’s life story is sufficiently cinematic to justify a two-part big-screen, global event. King also believes that he left money on the table by not Wicked-ifying his $900 million-grossing Queen biopic, Bohemian Rhapsody, into two installments back in 2018. (That movie suffered a similarly troubled production. Remember when director Bryan Singer was fired for “erratic behavior” with only a few weeks left in production?)
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King refused to talk to you Baloney!! So what is the source for this info?

Plus, the Jackson estate is on the hook to cover most of the additional costs, including the shooting that would be required for a second movie, though the exact split is still up for negotiation, I’m told. The estate, an influential partner in this project (co-executor John Branca is a character in the film), originally warranted that the Logan script was legally sound—even though it most definitely was not.
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Says who?? Nobody is talking to him so......

He can literally claim anything he wants and attribute it to an unnamed imaginary source and then admit no one would talk to him. And no one calls him out on it.

To that end, the Michael cast and crew, including stars Colman Domingo, Nia Long, and Miles Teller, are in talks to potentially return to L.A. for a few weeks in July to shoot additional footage that would be used in the second movie. That’s assuming Logan can finish the script by then and everyone signs off. There are currently no deals for any talent for a second movie. And King, Fuqua, and Logan have yet to present their vision of the two-film split to either Fogelson at Lionsgate or Langley at Universal. If I’m those studio execs, I’d of course be a bit nervous about the Horizon problem: namely, if the first Michael movie doesn’t work, the second becomes a total wipeout. With the estate paying for most of this, it’s almost certainly worth the risk for Fogelson. But for Langley?
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This guy is full of shit. Everyone involved in this movie are under heavy NDA. I refuse to believe he has all these "sources" leaking info to him and risking being sued. But Lionsgate and Kings people won't even talk to him. I call bullshit on all of this. He's just making it up as he goes along.

What’s especially dangerous here is that the first movie will be shooting its all-important new third act while its writer attempts to finish a script for a second movie that can be seamlessly blended into a coherent two-film narrative with enough big musical moments in both halves and two satisfying endings—all in the span of a tight six-to-eight-week window. Not easy. But reassembling the busy cast months later also wouldn’t be easy.
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Here he goes trying to invoke fear and anxiety about the movie. The lionsgate CEO didn't seemed worried when he spoke.

Maybe the first movie ends with Jackson splitting with the Jackson 5 and his abusive father after the famous 1984 performance at Dodger Stadium. Maybe it ends with the Pepsi commercial fire that same year that led to Jackson’s lifelong struggle with painkillers. That’s all being worked out now, on the fly, with Universal waiting to hear the plan and decide thumbs up or thumbs down. If I’m betting, I’d put a little money on King getting his wish and Michael becoming two movies, and Universal eventually staying on board—with a few financial or release date concessions for its troubles. But either way, the machinations behind the scenes on this movie are fast becoming some of the most interesting in recent history.
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It's clear to me that this guy is a bullshitter. He does't know what's going on.

And I wouldn't be surprised if liongate and/or the estate fed him a fake script or false info to make him look stupid when the movie actually comes out.
 
StellaJackson said:
Nothing from the Chandler allegations will be in this movie. It’s all been cut, hence the filming of additional scenes.
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Absolute tabloid garbage! I refuse to accept for one minute that the estate "forgot" about legal issues surrounding this topic.

If it was ever an issue, they would just change the names and be done with it. The same goes for Arviso.

If I was the estate I would put Chandler front and center with accurate names and information. Then wait for him to come crawling out of the woodwork before ending this bullshit once and for all!
 
Hot_Street said:
If that's the case, the audience might get the impression that the allegations are being swept under the rug. This is anything but ideal for Michael's reputation and legacy.
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It’s a complete mess. But with John and Karen involved, I wouldn’t expect anything else.
 
knigofpop said:
Absolute tabloid garbage! I refuse to accept for one minute that the estate "forgot" about legal issues surrounding this topic.

If it was ever an issue, they would just change the names and be done with it. The same goes for Arviso.

If I was the estate I would put Chandler front and center with accurate names and information. Then wait for him to come crawling out of the woodwork before ending this bullshit once and for all!
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Considering their history, overlooking it is entirely believable. It’s also possible thaf they thought it would be ok until the producers found out about the Cascio situation and decided not to risk it.

They can’t change the names. If they filmed anything at all related to the Chandler allegations (which they did), then they absolutely can not show it on screen. The settlement is very clear. I would suggest reading the section in question.

Nobody, not least the studio with all the money on the line, wants Chandler to sue. That would be disasterous.
 
I just want to post this from Jackie's actor to prove that Lionsgate has EVERYTHING regarding this movie under lock and key and everyone is under heavy NDAs.

I doubt this actor is in any of the the alleged controversial scenes about the chandlers. And he still isn't allowed to talk about anything. He says he's gotten in trouble for saying the smallest things.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915500377585434692

So if you really believe someone is feeding Belloni all this info and getting away with it, you are very gullible.
 
What's wrong with Evan Chandler's call? There's no copyright on that, is there?
 
Hot_Street said:
What's wrong with Evan Chandler's call? There's no copyright on that, is there?
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They can't depict the Chandlers or mention them by name, they could easily bypass this by conveying information through a lawyer character instead but they might remove it all together
 
IhateTheMedia said:
They can't depict the Chandlers or mention them by name, they could easily bypass this by conveying information through a lawyer character instead but they might remove it all together
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Surprising that square one wasn't under fire, it's a joke the phone call was out there, it was the smoking gun, if they can't include the chandler's were does it go, it plays directly in to the hands of Robson / safechuck and probably arvizo
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the movie 2027 only comes wait as the robson safeschuck process ends November 2026 we have to be patient for a long time
 
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