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zinniabooklover said:
Maybe I'm taking this too literally, lol. But I don't need any help from MJE to enjoy my 'Michaeling'. I get that many people want new stuff released or stuff in better quality but - in the absence of any of that - I just get on with enjoying Michael's art just like I always have done.
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This. Screw the estate. I'm not interested in anything they could release, and I'm not interested in making the lawyers richer.

Maybe it's because I have an attention span, but I don't constantly need new music to keep me interested in MJ. There is more than enough for me to enjoy already.

Anybody who wants better quality simply needs to spend more money on their amplifier and speakers. The award-winning sound quality is already there - it's not Michael's fault people are streaming through earbuds.
 
That's how you do it right, Estate!
Set for release on Aug. 1 is Sunset Boulevard, a 5-CD collection of material from Elvis Presley spanning recording sessions ā€œThe Kingā€ had at RCAā€™s recording studios in Los Angeles in the 1970s.
A press release notes that among the 89 rarities included in the set, more than half of them were previously unreleased in the United States.
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Elvis Presley 'Sunset Boulevard' 89-Track Collection Out Now

Out now: 'Sunset Boulevard,' a 5-CD collection of material from Elvis Presley spanning recording sessions "The King" had at RCA's recording studios in Los Angeles in the 1970s.
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Instead of a HIStory 30 box set, this is what we fans are offered.
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DAMTOYS revealed Michael Jackson HIStory 1/2 Statue - MJVibe

DAMTOYS, the Chinese company that announced the Statue Dangerous Tour in 2024, just revealed their 2025 Masterpiece: Michael Jackson 1/2 HIStory Tour Statue / Dangerous Tour This full-body statue art piece of Michael Jackson is a stunning tribute to two of his most iconic stage moments. The...
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Hot_Street said:
Instead of a HIStory 30 box set, this is what we fans are offered.
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DAMTOYS revealed Michael Jackson HIStory 1/2 Statue - MJVibe

DAMTOYS, the Chinese company that announced the Statue Dangerous Tour in 2024, just revealed their 2025 Masterpiece: Michael Jackson 1/2 HIStory Tour Statue / Dangerous Tour This full-body statue art piece of Michael Jackson is a stunning tribute to two of his most iconic stage moments. The...
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I mean...it looks kinda cool, better than a lot of the other various statues that are out there...but...but... nevermind :sneaky:

edit: ok, looking closer they are not so great šŸ„²
 
Hot_Street said:
Instead of a HIStory 30 box set, this is what we fans are offered.
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DAMTOYS revealed Michael Jackson HIStory 1/2 Statue - MJVibe

DAMTOYS, the Chinese company that announced the Statue Dangerous Tour in 2024, just revealed their 2025 Masterpiece: Michael Jackson 1/2 HIStory Tour Statue / Dangerous Tour This full-body statue art piece of Michael Jackson is a stunning tribute to two of his most iconic stage moments. The...
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The Blitzway Dangerous statue / doll from 2023 looked way better. These look :(
 
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I'm wondering why HIStory, which sold about as many copies as Off the Wall, isn't getting a 30th anniversary edition, while Off the Wall received a special edition in 2016, which is actually almost its 37th anniversary. Not only are the sales figures similar, but both albums also had two big hits.
 
Fuzball said:
Why not, if the sales figures continue to be at high levels?
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I think OTW is currently listed in the MoFi Best Sellers section so I take your point. I don't know what the MoFi criteria is for picking an album to work on. I vaguely assumed they were going for 'classic' albums but maybe it's more wide-ranging than that. :unsure:
 
Hoping I will be able to pick this Dangerous release up before it is sold out lol.

Edit: Off The Wall one is still available so should be good.
 
An estate that prefers to release fake songs rather than genuine, unreleased songs is beyond help. They simply lack a basic understanding of how important the fans were to Michael and how important Michael still is to the fans. Michael said in an interview with Barbara Walters that he felt the need to create something and wanted to get it out there. The estate is doing the opposite.
 
Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jacksons Estate
Fans stalking the moves of Michael Jacksons Estate
Just when you thought the Estate was done
then Johnny B. does worse shit again
 
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Fuzball said:
meanwhile at the Prince camp ...


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Over in David-Bowie-world the V&A in London is getting ready to unveil its next DB project ...

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V&A announces details for David Bowie Centre

Chicā€™s bandleader and the Last Dinner Party are among the curators selecting from the 90,000+ items in the late starā€™s archive to go on display when the new London venue opens in September
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"From the Thierry Mugler suit he got married in to his costumes from the Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane era, David Bowieā€™s most iconic looks will be available for fans to see up close as the V&A museum opens its David Bowie Centre on 13 September.

Part of the V&Aā€™s wider archival project, the V&A East Storehouse, the Bowie archive comprises more than 90,000 items ā€“ which wonā€™t all be on display at once. Instead, in details revealed today, visitors will be able to order up items to look at closely, while V&A archivists and star curators will make selections to go on display in a series of rotating showcases. Tickets will be free.

Nile Rodgers, the Chic bandleader and guitarist who worked with Bowie on the hit album Letā€™s Dance, has curated one of these areas, with items including correspondence between the two, studio images taken by Peter Gabriel during the making of Bowieā€™s Rodgers-assisted 1993 album Black Tie White Noise, and a bespoke suit designed by Peter Hall for the Serious Moonlight tour.

ā€œMy creative life with David Bowie provided the greatest success of his incredible career, but our friendship was just as rewarding,ā€ Rodgers said, announcing the partnership. ā€œOur bond was built on a love of the music that had both made and saved our lives.ā€

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Rodgers and the bandā€™s choices will be included in an area featuring items that are rotated every six months or so, with fresh guest curators each time.

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These will include a look at Bowieā€™s unrealised projects, such as film tie-ins with the Diamond Dogs and Young Americans albums, and even a mooted adaptation of George Orwellā€™s 1984. Other areas will spotlight iconic moments such as his 1987 Glass Spider tour, his collaborations with bassist Gail Ann Dorsey and the creation of the Ziggy Stardust persona.

There will also be an interactive installation tracing Bowieā€™s impact on pop cultural figures from Issey Miyake to Lady Gaga, and a film compiling live performances across his career.

What will really provoke Bowie fansā€™ fascination, though, is seeing objects up close, ā€œincluding costumes, musical instruments, models, props and sceneryā€ according to the V&A. Visitors will be able to book to see five items each visit, with two weeksā€™ notice, using the V&Aā€™s ā€œorder an objectā€ service. Bookings will begin in September.

More than 70,000 of the archive items are photographic prints, negatives and transparencies, and these, along with other paper-based items ā€“ ā€œnotebooks, diaries, lyrics, scripts, correspondence, project files, writings, unrealised projects, cover artwork, designs, concept drawings, fanmail and artā€ ā€“ will also be available to view by special appointment.

The V&A first acquired Bowieā€™s archive in 2023, with director Tristram Hunt promising the David Bowie Centre would be a ā€œnew sourcebook for the Bowies of tomorrow ..."
 
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Hot_Street said:
I'm wondering why HIStory, which sold about as many copies as Off the Wall, isn't getting a 30th anniversary edition, while Off the Wall received a special edition in 2016, which is actually almost its 37th anniversary. Not only are the sales figures similar, but both albums also had two big hits.
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HIStory also achieved the same sales figures as Off the Wall in a much shorter time, and as a double album, it sold twice as many discs. The Estate greatly underestimates HIStory's influence.
 
We know the Estate's role in playing it safe by only investing in big albums like Thriller and Bad. Is this perhaps the result of the risk they took with the Cashio songs that didn't pay off? Do we fans have to pay the price for these fraudsters?
 
As is known, we get new history release of mofi one step so patience people
 
Fuzball said:
Why not, if the sales figures continue to be at high levels?
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It's relative. The print run for OTW was 6000 copies. I don't know if they sold them all or not. Let's see what happens with Dangerous.

Hot_Street said:
Poor Brand Management?
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Maybe this is the problem. I don't need them to "take the Michael Jackson brand to the next level.ā€ wtf.

Nothing needs to be done. MJ's catalogue speaks for itself. We certainly don't need any more $200 t-shirts, or plastic toys that cost more than my car. These sort of stunts just cheapen his legacy. The estate needs to stay away from that shit, it's embarrassing.
 
bluemoon7 said:
Just saw this


wow
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Ngl, I was shocked when I first saw this story. Perhaps I shouldn't have been, maybe I'm just naive. But it's just so gross.

There's already two threads on this! The details laid out in the article posted by @CherubimII make for grim reading.

Michael Jacksonā€™s Daughter Paris Uncovers ā€˜Irregular Paymentsā€™ Made by Dadā€™s Estate, Raising Questions

Michael Jacksonā€™s Daughter Paris Uncovers ā€˜Irregular Paymentsā€™ Made by Dadā€™s Estate, Raising Questions By Ryan Naumann July 10, 2025 https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/paris-jackson-raises-serious-questions-about-michaels-estate-excl/ Michael Jacksonā€™s daughter, Paris Jackson...
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zinniabooklover said:
Ngl, I was shocked when I first saw this story. Perhaps I shouldn't have been, maybe I'm just naive. But it's just so gross.

There's already two threads on this! The details laid out in the article posted by @CherubimII make for grim reading.

Michael Jacksonā€™s Daughter Paris Uncovers ā€˜Irregular Paymentsā€™ Made by Dadā€™s Estate, Raising Questions

Michael Jacksonā€™s Daughter Paris Uncovers ā€˜Irregular Paymentsā€™ Made by Dadā€™s Estate, Raising Questions By Ryan Naumann July 10, 2025 https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/paris-jackson-raises-serious-questions-about-michaels-estate-excl/ Michael Jacksonā€™s daughter, Paris Jackson...
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Oh, thanks for the link, zin!
 
R1chard said:
It's relative. The print run for OTW was 6000 copies. I don't know if they sold them all or not. Let's see what happens with Dangerous.


Maybe this is the problem. I don't need them to "take the Michael Jackson brand to the next level.ā€ wtf.

Nothing needs to be done. MJ's catalogue speaks for itself. We certainly don't need any more $200 t-shirts, or plastic toys that cost more than my car. These sort of stunts just cheapen his legacy. The estate needs to stay away from that shit, it's embarrassing.
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What plastic toys are you talking about?
 
bluemoon7 said:
I wish them strength. They have been through too much already in their young lives.
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I'm still thinking about this. It never ceases to amaze me how well his kids cope with all the crap that happens. Couple of weeks ago I was watching a little interview that Paris did. She's got her wedding coming up, she's currently on tour supporting Manchester Orchestra, she answers questions with good humour, she's making jokes. This legal action she's taking must have already been in the works but she's getting on with her life.

The boys do really well, also. They just get on with doing their thing with grace and patience. I do admire the way Michael's kids carry themselves.
 
zinniabooklover said:
I'm still thinking about this. It never ceases to amaze me how well his kids cope with all the crap that happens. Couple of weeks ago I was watching a little interview that Paris did. She's got her wedding coming up, she's currently on tour supporting Manchester Orchestra, she answers questions with good humour, she's making jokes. This legal action she's taking must have already been in the works but she's getting on with her life.

The boys do really well, also. They just get on with doing their thing with grace and patience. I do admire the way Michael's kids carry themselves.
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Yes, me too ... Some people think they have a spoiled and easy life because they are rich and have the Jackson name. I am too realistic to NOT see that this does not necessarily mean a better life. I think, as MJ fans, we all can relate.

Paris seems to have a beautiful, free, and creative spirit. She also seems highly sensitive AND stubborn (which can be useful) like her Dad šŸ„¹Hopefully, she has a well established support / safety net.
 
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