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Breaking News Cause of death of Michael Jackson

dr. Murray reportedly told cops 10 minutes after administering propofol ... He "left jackson's side to go to the restroom and relieve himself. Murray stated he was out of the room for about 2 minutes maximum. Upon his return, murray noticed that jackson was no longer breathing."

dr. Murray says he began cpr and at some point ran downstairs and asked the chef to send up prince jackson, the eldest son, then murray continued performing cpr.
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Umm... where did this come from? Cuz if he is saying this shyt, then he's already changed his story and it doesn't match up with the timeline anyway.

I thought that he went to make some calls????
 
The Times Online and the BBC on their news websites quote Murray as saying 'he thought Michael was addicted to propofol' but someone said you can't get addicted to that drug... Oh I do hope all the truth comes out...
 
Oh, and this:

(CNN) -- The Los Angeles coroner has concluded preliminarily that singer Michael Jackson died of an overdose of propofol, a powerful sedative he was given to help him sleep, according to court documents released Monday.
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A search warrant filed in court showed toxicology reports found propofol in Michael Jackson's body.



http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/24/michael.jackson.propofol/index.html#


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Los Angeles' coroner Dr. Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran reached that preliminary conclusion after reviewing toxicology results carried out on Jackson's blood,according to a search warrant and affidavit unsealed in Houston, Texas.

The Associated Press is quoting a single law enforcement official, who says the LA County Coroner has ruled Michael Jackson's death a homicide. The Los Angeles County Coroner's office told CNN they had "no comment" on the report. An LAPD spokesman says the story did not come from their department.

The 32-page warrant said Dr. Conrad Murray, Jackson's personal physician, told a detective that he had been treating Jackson for insomnia for six weeks. Murray said each night he gave Jackson 50 mg of propofol, also known as Diprivan, diluted with the anesthetic lidocaine via an intravenous drip.

Worried that Jackson may have been becoming addicted to the drug, the Houston cardiologist said he attempted to wean him from it, putting together combinations of other drugs that succeeded in helping Jackson sleep during the two nights prior to his death.

But on June 25, other drugs failed to do the job, as he recounted to detectives in an hour-by-hour account:

-- At about 1:30 a.m., Murray gave Jackson 10 mg of Valium.

-- At about 2 a.m., he injected Jackson with 2 mg of the anti-anxiety drug Ativan.

-- At about 3 a.m., Murray then administered 2 mg of the sedative Versed.

-- At about 5 a.m., he administered another 2 mg of Ativan.

-- At about 7:30 a.m., Murray gave Jackson yet another 2 mg of Versed while monitoring him with a device that measured the oxygen saturation of a his blood.

-- At about 10:40 a.m., "after repeated demands/requests from Jackson," Murray administered 25 mg of propofol, the document said.
"Jackson finally went to sleep and Murray stated that he remained monitoring him. After approximately 10 minutes, Murray stated he left Jackson's side to go to the restroom and relieve himself. Murray stated he was out of the room for about two minutes maximum. Upon his return, Murray noticed that Jackson was no longer breathing," the affidavit said.
Efforts at CPR proved fruitless.

According to the warrant and affidavit, Murray said he was not the first doctor to give Jackson the powerful anesthetic, which the singer called his "milk." The drug has a milky appearance.

Propofol is administered intravenously in operating rooms as a general anesthetic, the manufacturer AstraZeneca told CNN.

The drug works as a depressant on the central nervous system.
"It works on your brain," said Dr. Zeev Kain, the chair of the anesthesiology department at the University of California, Irvine. "It basically puts the entire brain to sleep."
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However, once the infusion is stopped, the patient wakes up almost immediately.

"So if you're going to do this, you'd have to have somebody right there giving you the medication and monitoring you continuously," Kain said.

Dr. Hector Vila, chairman of the Ambulatory Surgery Committee for the American Society of Anesthesiologists, said he administers the drug during office procedures such as urology, dentistry and gynecology. It is also the most common anesthetic for colonoscopies, he said.

Good god....:no:
 
mello1 said:
Umm... where did this come from? Cuz if he is saying this shyt, then he's already changed his story and it doesn't match up with the timeline anyway.

I thought that he went to make some calls????
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This has come directly from the warrant (see other thread) in general discussion). The aithorities know he's lying because they have his phone records.
 
mello1 said:
Umm... where did this come from? Cuz if he is saying this shyt, then he's already changed his story and it doesn't match up with the timeline anyway.

I thought that he went to make some calls????
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Its from TMZ

and for your question about the calls he made...


Dr. Murray says he noticed that Jackson wasn't breathing at around 11 AM. He was then on the cell phone for 47 minutes with 3 separate calls, from 11:18 to 12:05. The 911 call came in at 12:21 PM .... a much longer delay than originally reported.
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This is no surprise. Lie upon lie upon lie. I don't believe ANYTHING Murray says. I don't believe Michael begged OR demanded the drug propofol. I think Murray thought he was earning his $150,000 a month and he was just much more incompetent than anyone realized.
 
resonnant said:
This is no surprise. Lie upon lie upon lie. I don't believe ANYTHING Murray says. I don't believe Michael begged OR demanded the drug propofol.
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Well, it makes no difference whether MJ begged him for it or not. Giving propofol just so that he could sleep is irresponsible and illegal. Giving it to him in combination with those other drugs is simply insane.
 
I now believe that this was a planned execution. That is my opinion. The lies revealed by the timeline, and a lot else, lead me to this conclusion.

Murray will take the fall. Probably won't even get jail time, because he's a doctor! In the coming months, even years, follow the money. If Murray has an unexplained income, that will seal it.
 
how tha hell do you know someone's not breathing if there isn't a monitor in the damn room?????

am I missing something? I haven't heard anything about a heart/breathing monitor.

there is more to this **it..... yea and it better be more than MANSLAUGHTER.... and

and others better be going DOWN. LINE UP KLEIN AND METZER TOOO....
 
manslaughter is homidcide under the definitions. its doesnt just mean murder. so this isnt new. we knew he was been investigated for man
 
elusive moonwalker said:
manslaughter is homidcide under the definitions. its doesnt just mean murder. so this isnt new. we knew he was been investigated for man
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Thats right I dont think its one person on this forum that didnt think they was coming back with anything different, no surprise there, but you better know what "Lethal" means like its been said all alone he had "Lethal" dosages, and Homicide also means 1st Degree Murder as well.
Michael Jackson was Murdered and Im pissed.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
manslaughter is homidcide under the definitions. its doesnt just mean murder. so this isnt new. we knew he was been investigated for man
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Exactly. That's why I'm not shocked that they are investigating it as a homicide. We already got the hint from TMZ it was gonna be one and it's now confirmed. And they're definitely looking at manslaughter charges.
 
mello1 said:
So he gave him ish after 3 am??? Lawd a mercy! He was drugging him all damn night.
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Exactly. And IF that was the truth then I guess Murray must've been pretty - darned - tired having been up all night.
 
Was it normal for Michael to sleep till 10:30am in the morning? I would think he would want to be up earlier to tend to the kids.

10:30 am seems much to late for the doctor to administer any more drugs, unless his intent was to definitely kill Michael; which he did. DAMN!!!!
 
troubleman84 said:
Exactly. That's why I'm not shocked that they are investigating it as a homicide. We already got the hint from TMZ it was gonna be one and it's now confirmed. And they're definitely looking at manslaughter charges.
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Why are you "SHOCKED" they are investigating Michael Jackson's Death as a Homicide ? have you not been keeping up ?, Most people knew it would come back just like this, Michael Jackson had LETHAL DOSAGES in his healthy body, do you know anything about FORENSICS? Drug Addicts dont have HEATHLY ORGANS even when someone says "I BEEN GIVEN THEM DRUGS EVERYNITE" all Coroners may have been born at night but not that night Michael died, they are required by LAW to investigate as HOMICIDE with this much Forensics, Michael Jackson's Body and Blood CRIES out! this is not a Hollywood Movie Somebodies put ENOUGH POISON in this man's body to kill 10 People. You still Shocked? its ok you want to be satisfied with Manslaughter thats fine too but its going to be Murder, this is 2009 not 1960 and FORENSICS rule and this isnt CSI-Miami either, its real life and they over-Killed this man and his BODY is the Proof. Who willinly stays hooked up to an IV for HOURS except a person dying in a hospital when they have 3 children that could need him at any time in the morning Children get up early and Michael knew this. These Lying Murderers need to come up out of their little holes. LAPD I hope you much success in your CHARGES and CONVICTIONS, because Dr. Murray sure didnt commit HOMICIDE by himself and LAPD knows this.
 
MJ#1WhoIsIt said:
Why are you "SHOCKED" they are investigating Michael Jackson's Death as a Homicide ? have you not been keeping up ?, Most people knew it would come back just like this, Michael Jackson had LETHAL DOSAGES in his healthy body, do you know anything about FORENSICS? Drug Addicts dont have HEATHLY ORGANS even when someone says "I BEEN GIVEN THEM DRUGS EVERYNITE" all Coroners may have been born at night but not that night Michael died, they are required by LAW to investigate as HOMICIDE with this much Forensics, Michael Jackson's Body and Blood CRIES out! this is not a Hollywood Movie Somebodies put ENOUGH POISON in this man's body to kill 10 People. You still Shocked? its ok you want to be satisfied with Manslaughter thats fine too but its going to be Murder, this is 2009 not 1960 and FORENSICS rule and this isnt CSI-Miami either, its real life and they over-Killed this man and his BODY is the Proof. Who willinly stays hooked up to an IV for HOURS except a person dying in a hospital when they have 3 children that could need him at any time in the morning Children get up early and Michael knew this. These Lying Murderers need to come up out of their little holes. LAPD I hope you much success in your CHARGES and CONVICTIONS, because Dr. Murray sure didnt commit HOMICIDE by himself and LAPD knows this.
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Erm...poster said he's NOT SHOCKED??
 
After LaToya's "biggest conspiracy of all times", I hope Murray does not "commit suicide"
 
I'm sorry some of you people can't handle the truth.

IT'S MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE.
MOTIVE: MONEY!!!!!!!
 
Sugarsiri said:
Erm...poster said he's NOT SHOCKED??
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Troubleman I do apologize for you being "NOT SHOCKED" but Im still pissed at any fan that thinks this is MANSLAUGHTER. Why would any fan be a fan of a any DRUG ADDICT Entertainer? If you think now he was a drug addict then you think everything he did was motivated by a high of drugs. Especially when they want to say he was addicted since his hair caught fire 30 years ago and his organs are screaming "IM NOT A DRUG ADDICT", is it really that hard to believe Michael Jackson was Intentionally put to SLEEP - FOREVER from this LIFE?
 
resonnant said:
-- At about 1:30 a.m., Murray gave Jackson 10 mg of Valium.

-- At about 2 a.m., he injected Jackson with 2 mg of the anti-anxiety drug Ativan.

-- At about 3 a.m., Murray then administered 2 mg of the sedative Versed.

-- At about 5 a.m., he administered another 2 mg of Ativan.

-- At about 7:30 a.m., Murray gave Jackson yet another 2 mg of Versed while monitoring him with a device that measured the oxygen saturation of a his blood.

-- At about 10:40 a.m., "after repeated demands/requests from Jackson," Murray administered 25 mg of propofol, the document said.
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For crying out loud - if that's not murder I don't know what is. He may just as well have shot Michael in the head!
 
MJ#1WhoIsIt said:
Troubleman I do apologize for you being "NOT SHOCKED" but Im still pissed at any fan that thinks this is MANSLAUGHTER. Why would any fan be a fan of a any DRUG ADDICT Entertainer? If you think now he was a drug addict then you think everything he did was motivated by a high of drugs. Especially when they want to say he was addicted since his hair caught fire 30 years ago and his organs are screaming "IM NOT A DRUG ADDICT", is it really that hard to believe Michael Jackson was Intentionally put to SLEEP - FOREVER from this LIFE?
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Troubleman said HOMICIDE. Homicide can be either manslaughter OR various versions of murder (1st degree, 2nd degree, etc).

"Homicide (Latin homicidium, homo human being + caedere to cut, kill) refers to the act of killing another human being."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide

and, drug addicts are everywhere. they don't all live in dumpsters in alleyways! I am NOT talking specific now about MJ, but really........don't demonize addiction. Plenty of high profile people struggle with it and it is and ILLNESS. I can think of dozens of entertainers, who were or are very popular, that have or do struggle with drug addiction. Please....be cautious with your words. If anyone reading this struggles with addiction PLEASE KNOW that you are worth as much as anyone else, and you deserve to live life, and there IS HELP available.
 
nestacat said:
and, drug addicts are everywhere. they don't all live in dumpsters in alleyways! I am NOT talking specific now about MJ, but really........don't demonize addiction. Plenty of high profile people struggle with it and it is and ILLNESS. I can think of dozens of entertainers, who were or are very popular, that have or do struggle with drug addiction. Please....be cautious with your words. If anyone reading this struggles with addiction PLEASE KNOW that you are worth as much as anyone else, and you deserve to live life, and there IS HELP available.
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I agree with nestacat. I don't know what to believe right now, but if Michael really was addicted to prescription drugs, it doesn't really change my opinion of him. I'd be sad for him, of course, but it doesn't diminish his accomplishments in my mind. Regardless of any addictions he may have had, he was a great dancer, singer, songwriter, and just a really nice and kind person.

Didn't Michael seek treatment for an addiction (painkillers, I think?) in the early 90's?

Finally, in my opinion, the fact that he may have been addicted is irrelevant when it comes to the subject of what caused his death. The fact that Michael may have asked Murray for the Propofol is also irrelevant. Murray injected Michael with dangerous drugs that should never have been used outside of a hospital. That's what's relevant.
 
diana79 said:
I agree with nestacat. I don't know what to believe right now, but if Michael really was addicted to prescription drugs, it doesn't really change my opinion of him. I'd be sad for him, of course, but it doesn't diminish his accomplishments in my mind. Regardless of any addictions he may have had, he was a great dancer, singer, songwriter, and just a really nice and kind person.

Didn't Michael seek treatment for an addiction (painkillers, I think?) in the early 90's?

Finally, in my opinion, the fact that he may have been addicted is irrelevant when it comes to the subject of what caused his death. The fact that Michael may have asked Murray for the Propofol is also irrelevant. Murray injected Michael with dangerous drugs that should never have been used outside of a hospital. That's what's relevant.
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Diana.........to your last point....AGREED!
 
This makes me upset because this simply did not have to happen. If it were not for negligence and downright ignorance (or maybe a sinister ulterior motive) by a doctor -- maybe with the help of others -- Michael would have been rocking the hell out of the O2 Arena right now.

I'm frustrated. I hope he goes away for a long time.
 
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