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Bubs;3933325 said:
"Murray refused to give up on his friend, riding in the ambulance with him to nearby UCLA Medical Center. ‘I worked on him the whole way. I wanted a sign of life. I couldn’t give up. I save people. I’m a heart doctor. It’s what I do. I wanted Michael back."

:puke: What pisses me off the these sort of tabloids don't even attempt to ask questions or do even a little bit background check. It came out during his trial he didn't do such a thing. It was brought out that he called to his gf from ambulance.
Exactly. That's the worst thing about all these stories. There is NEVER a rebuttal. Not even with someone convicted of killing Michael is there any sense of "Wait, let's see what the facts are."

I mean, they say "refused to give up on his FRIEND", wtf???? Like he was a hero and like it's a fact that he was his friend. It's sick.


Bravo for Debbie for saying what I needed someone around him to say.
 
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And Rowe goes on, telling us, "If I had a dog as ugly as him [Murray] I'd shave its ass, make it walk backwards and put a wig on it."

She shouldn't have compared C. Murray to a dog, but a hyena!!

Awfull comparison she used there :doh:
 
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Murray Will Be Dead
I'll Buy the Bullet


Debbie Rowe is furious Conrad Murray trashed her in a new interview, and she tells TMZ ... she'll gladly buy a particularly lethal bullet to help end the doctor's life.


Rowe is "disgusted" by Murray's comment ... that he and Michael used to joke that neither would want to have sex with her.


Rowe fired back to TMZ, saying she believes within 18 months, "A Jackson fan will shoot him dead, and I'd buy the bullet." Rowe added, I wouldn't shoot him but I'd buy the bullet ... a hollow-point." FYI ... a hollow-point bullet essentially eviscerates the target's insides.


And Rowe goes on, telling us, "If I had a dog as ugly as him [Murray] I'd shave its ass, make it walk backwards and put a wig on it." And, she says, "It takes 2 to f**k and there's not enough alcohol in the world."


Rowe, who raises horses on her ranch, says, "At least I can breed. he can't even write prescriptions anymore."


She's also indignant that Murray is claiming MJ took his own life by injecting himself with the fatal dose of Propofol while the Dr. was out of the room. She says, "It's so disgusting he's trashing the dead. The jury sure didn't buy his story."




Source TMZ

Leave it up to Debbie to say something so bold, but she knows Murray crossed the line and he has jeopardized his own safety.

And I don't blame her one bit for being angry. Why did Murray even need to bring her up in that interview and say such insulting things about her?
 
la_cienega;3933328 said:
Exactly. That's the worst thing about all these stories. There is NEVER a rebuttal. Not even with someone convicted of killing Michael is there any sense of "Wait, let's see what the facts are."

I mean, they say "refused to give up on his FRIEND", wtf???? Like he was a hero and like it's a fact that he was his friend. It's sick.


Bravo for Debbie for saying what I needed someone around him to say.

Like seriously! How ****ing lazy those reporters are? Like this bit of his interview is total crap:
When paramedics came and they moved him to the foot of the bed they did precisely what I was trying to avoid. He had a saline intravenous in his leg and this was dislodged. It took them 25 minutes to put in a new one. He got a tube down his trachea. Someone kept pumping his chest.’"

Paramedic testified this:
RS describes CM. CM was leaned over MJ and was holding his torso and was moving MJ from bed to the floor.
RS also saw a security person helping to move MJ to the floor.

and this:
"RS collects the items, go down the stairs and go to the ambulance. CM was still inside the room. CM joined them later. RS was sitting close to MJ's head in the ambulance and was observing MJ. There was no changes. MJ was given another round of starter drugs on the ambulance. No change. RS saw CM on his cell phone. RS says he never saw any sign of life at MJ and there was no change in MJ's situation for the 42 minutes he was with him."

This sick bastard himself moved MJ and is now telling porky pies that paramedics moved him, and he wasn't working on MJ during ambulance ride. He was looking and talking on the phone.
 
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Didn't he also claim in the Mail on Sunday interview that weak life signals came back in the hospital? That's obviously just another lie. No hospital stuff ever mentioned such a thing, IIRC. Michael was obviously dead by the time paramedics arrived.

The nerve of him trying to shade paramedics besides blaming and trashing Michael.
 
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Honestly... as long as he says he didn't kill Michael Jackson... who cares what he's saying, he's lying.
Ppl will not buy it.
He is sick... my strongest guess still is narcistic ps. I do hope for ppls safety he'll never be allowed to treat patients again!
I heard through fellow fans he didn't answer if he thinks that Michael is a pedo... how low can one get... I guess he wants to keep up the low media to maybe interview him as a 'specialist' if the WR thing should gain attention. Let's pray it will all end soon! And the Murray guy will hang on the rost of hell or 'boil in oil!'

Every reporter or journalist let him go through with this will look poor and definately NOT gain a career boost with it... but well it's their choice... they'll be known for it! *shrugs*
 
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This whole thing is beyond belief.I knew he will do this..there will be a book soon and who knows what else.I can not stand it any more. He is deliberately trying to hurt Michael's kids and fans.This is his payback for 2 years in prison because I think he really believes what he is saying.He is a pshyco..big time.
Debbie said it right.I don't care about non-violence any more..Murray is abusing me and fans for years and he will keep on doing that and talking trash about Michael.Unbelivable.:puke:
 
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Did he do that interview with the UK program Daybreak today, or did that get cancelled? I read it was scheduled, but have seen no comments about it?
 
GreenEyes;3933341 said:
Did he do that interview with the UK program Daybreak today, or did that get cancelled? I read it was scheduled, but have seen no comments about it?

From ITV site:
The man responsible for Michael Jackson's death spoke on British TV for the first time when he chatted to Lorraine and Aled this morning.

Dr Conrad Murray revealed he was "very sorry that Michael is dead" and described the singer's death as "a loss I will never recover from".

But Murray maintained his innocence, calling himself "an innocent man who has been persecuted to the maximum, sent to jail and demoralised".

Dr Murray, who was found guilty of Michael Jackson's involuntary manslaughter in 2011, expressed his condolences over the popstar's three children: "I am very very sad about Michael's children. There is no doubt about that."

When asked if he should be allowed to continue practising medicine, Murray said: "I have practiced medicine for 23 years… In 23 years I have never had one disciplinary action by any medical boards in the United States… this is the only blemish on my records and I am going to do my best to right a wrong that has happened to me.”

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Ps, I couldn't get itv player to play in my region, but by the comments, Lorraine K wasn't nice to CM, sample of comments:
"I understand a lot of people have a lot of anger towards Conrad Murray but how many times have we seen over the years where people have been found guilty of something which was proven the wrong verdict after a retrial. Look at all the years Liverpool fans was blamed for causing the Hillsborough disaster, and it's was the ENGLISH police at blame and covered it up. Then you have Lorraine Kelly interviewing Conrad Murray on live tv and treating him like a piece of dirt because he pleads his innocence. Obviously she was a big Jackson fan."
 
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Bubs;3933347 said:
When asked if he should be allowed to continue practising medicine, Murray said: "I have practiced medicine for 23 years… In 23 years I have never had one disciplinary action by any medical boards in the United States… this is the only blemish on my records and I am going to do my best to right a wrong that has happened to me.”

The guy really is a psycho, isn't he? On top of acting like he did nothing wrong he has the nerve to do tabloid shopping, dehumanizing his deceased patient and talking about things which should be under doctor-patient privilage and all the while he is stating he cannot see any reason why he should not get back his licence... Instead of getting back his licence he should be certified.
 
respect77;3933348 said:
The guy really is a psycho, isn't he? On top of acting like he did nothing wrong he has the nerve to do tabloid shopping, dehumanizing his deceased patient and talking about things which should be under doctor-patient privilage and all the while he is stating he cannot see any reason why he should not get back his licence... Instead of getting back his licence he should be certified.

He really is psycho. He has nerve to say there is one blemish in his medical licence. To him, killing MJ is a blemish in his med licence :puke:
Then he complains about him being demoralised. Isn't that exactly what he does to Michael with his interviews?

"I am going to do my best to right a wrong that has happened to me.”

Once again, lets join to poor poor Conrat Murray choir. Poor poor Conrat Murray, and what happen to him.
Never mind what happen to Michael, and never mind there is 3 orphaned kids, but we all should feel sorry for what happen to him. His state of mind is so mind bogglingly disturbed that I have to wonder how come he is still walking and talking and is not committed to mental hospital?
 
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Anyone who believes a thing Murray says is a blatant Michael Jackson hater
 
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Is there anybody in the UK who could please manually record the Daybreak segment so we can get it posted to BoycottCM's youtube and tumblr?
 
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Didn't he also claim in the Mail on Sunday interview that weak life signals came back in the hospital? That's obviously just another lie. No hospital stuff ever mentioned such a thing, IIRC. Michael was obviously dead by the time paramedics arrived.

The nerve of him trying to shade paramedics besides blaming and trashing Michael.

Wasn't his defense that Michael died instantly and so fast that he didn't have time to close his eyes. Now he is saying that he had some life in the paramedic? So, is he saying that his own defense team lied and Michael could have been saved if he had called 911 when he saw Michael in distress.

In either case, he is lying.
 
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Didn't he also claim in the Mail on Sunday interview that weak life signals came back in the hospital? That's obviously just another lie. No hospital stuff ever mentioned such a thing, IIRC. Michael was obviously dead by the time paramedics arrived.

The nerve of him trying to shade paramedics besides blaming and trashing Michael.

It was Murray who claimed he could feel a pulse after they'd failed to resuscitate him, the paramedic believed it was a pulse caused by their attempts to restart his life and not an actual heart beat, but once someone has stated they believed they've felt it, the paramedics were obliged to continue all life saving measures on him.

Murray did that in order to try and make it so that the house would not be a crime scene so that he could destroy the evidence some more. If MJ was certified dead at the home, it would mean the crime scene would begin right away, and Murray didn't want that.

This whole thing is him covering for his death in the worst most inhumane ways possible. He is degrading and dehumanizing his victim to try and get sympathy for himself. He is a monster. To me, he is pure evil. I would not trust anyone in a room with him. I only wish executions could be possible on people like him. He is evil.
 
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Murray is a bonafide nutjob
 
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I saw half the daybreak interview, nothing new, unfortunately the comments that I heard I don't think were written by fans, I did smile when Lorriane addressed Murray as Mr Murray though.
 
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why hasn't Murray mentioned the tons of propofol he ordered from the pharmacist? and how was he 'weaning' MJ off if he was ordering tons of it.
 
#BoycottCM—>CONRAD MURRAY MUM ON WHETHER MICHAEL JACKSON WAS A PEDOPHILE
Conrad Murray has been blabbing his big mouth all over the place, claiming Michael Jackson killed himself, he used to hold the singer’s penis …. but he then clams up in a big way on the subject of pedophilia.
"60 Minutes" Australia interviewed the felonious doc about lots of things, but you gotta watch Murray as he’s asked whether he thinks Michael was a pedophile.
The way it looks to us … he might as well scream, “YES!” Sometimes body language is more revealing than words.
Source: TMZ

Please go to boycottmurraycampaign if you wish to view the video. NOT TMZ
 
Make a Complaint Re: Conrad Murray’s Daybreak Interview
It has been brought to our attention that we can file complaints to Ofcom regarding Murray’s interview with Daybreak.
Please use this form to file your complaint: https://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/tell-us/specific-programme-epg
If you do NOT have a UK postcode then put “NA” in the box for postcode and it should allow you to submit your address manually.
Complaints received in mass improve chances of Ofcom following up on this matter.
Conrad Murray
Daybreak
Nov 25th, 2013
 
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And from a certain place the silence is deafening
 
Hallelujah, there still are some tabloids with decency:

Conrad Murray Is A Vile Human Being and Debbie Rowe Wants Him Shot!
Yesterday I was reading through several blogs and I came across the story where Michael Jackson’s former doctor Conrad Murray claimed once again he did not kill Michael Jackson but he did hold his penis for him. At the time my first reaction was, “Could there be a more vile and disgusting human being that Conrad Murray?” Michael is gone and it’s time to let him rest in peace.

But Dr. Murray continues to extend his 15-minutes of fame and most media outlets have decided to give it to him. Dr. Murray sat down with the Sunday Mail and got paid to regale them with more Michael stories and accuse Michael of being a “drug addict” whose lifestyle resulted in his death. Dr. Murray conveniently forgot that he was Michael’s doctor and was the one who served as Michael’s licensed drug dealer and administered the deadly dose that killed him. It was Dr. Murray’s job as a doctor to help his patient, not pander to whatever he wanted for $$$.

The story disturbed me and I went to sleep with it on my mind. I woke up continuing to think about what a vile human being Dr. Murray was – I was disgusted. When I turned on my computer this morning the first thing I saw in my e-mail was a notification from TMZ that they were running a story saying Michael’s ex wife Debbie Rowe said that Dr. Murray is going to be dead and she would buy the bullet. “A Jackson fan will shoot him dead, and I’d buy the bullet. I wouldn’t shoot him but I’d buy the bullet … a hollow-point.” The first thought in my head was, “I would donate some money towards that.” I know, it is a bit extreme, but really the man needs to shut up and media outlets need to stop providing the forum to trash Michael.

It seems Debbie is upset because not only did Dr. Murray talk trash about Michael he also said that he and Michael laughed about how neither of them would have sex with Debbie because she was ugly. Debbie continued with her rant and said, “If I had a dog as ugly as him [Murray] I’d shave its ass, make it walk backwards and put a wig on it.” And, she says, “It takes 2 to f**k and there’s not enough alcohol in the world.”

Dr. Conrad Murray is going to use Michael Jackson to squeeze out every penny he can. He can’t practice medicine anymore so he has found a way to continue to make money off Michael, talk trash about him. What happened to patient/doctor confidentiality? Oh wait, he was not a doctor, he was a quack! How long will it be before we see him write a book about his experiences with Michael??


Source: Celeb laundry
 
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well thank God some media outlets have sense.. Murray will pay for this crap one way or another
 
The MD That Killed MJ: Five Awful Quotes From His Tell-All Interview

In 2012 Dr. Conrad Murray was sentenced to four years for involuntary manslaughter. He had been administering the surgical anesthetic propofol to Michael Jackson to help him sleep, which is a bit like your family doctor giving you a bottle of 90 Vicodin for a stubbed toe. Michael Jackson, age 50, died as a result.

Like most nonviolent offenders in California, Dr. Murray served half his time, and he is now out...on the interview circuit.

A lot of fans familiar with the Jackson clan are used to scumbag behavior of the highest order. I'd like to to explain, from a medical perspective, why Dr. Murray deserves a special level of hell for his exploitation of Michael Jackson.

In this Daily Mail interview, Murray crosses pretty much every boundary normally maintained in the patient-physician relationship. In trying to showcase his innocence, he proves he's even worse than we thought. Let's break it down, shall we?

1) 'We were family. We loved each other as brothers.'

Good doctors don't say they love patients. Clinicians are human, and we care for patients, sometimes a lot. However, a doctor holds a unique power over a patient. Saying "I love you" entangles the patient in a "family" relationship with a seriously ****ed up power disparity. Michael Jackson, who was publicly and tragically searching for a loving family pretty much his entire life, did not need a doctor to say "I love you." He needed a doctor to treat his physical and mental illnesses.

2) 'You want to know how close we were? I held his penis every night to fit a catheter because he was incontinent at night.'

Good doctors do not brag about doing routine procedures, particularly when the procedure is an embarrassing one, like putting in a catheter. But this isn't just sad because Murray is bragging about a procedure you could probably do yourself for an ailing friend or family member: it's evil because this is a massive, heinous breach of medical confidentiality. Yes, this would be straight up illegal if this information hadn't been brought to light already in Dr. Murray's trial for killing Jackson. This is the kind of information that Dr. Murray swore as a physician that he would take to his grave for Michael Jackson. Instead, Michael Jackson is in his grave, and this information is in the Daily Mail.

3) 'I tried to protect him but instead I was brought down with him.'

No, Dr. Murray: the full weight of your bad judgment was brought down on him, and he died as a result. A good doctor admits a mistake, especially when the mistake was costly or fatal. If you don't admit your mistakes, you're going to make them again and again. I wouldn't put this guy in charge of the medical care of a stray dog.

4) 'I am a trained cardiac specialist, this is what I do.'

This is an outright lie. Murray was trained in cardiology. In his enormously lucrative private practice as an in-home physician to the stars, he was treating all kinds of illness well outside of his specialty however he saw fit. He identified that his patient was a drug addict with incredible access to all kinds of medications from many different doctors, and instead of seeking the correct specialized care for his patient's serious medical condition, he gave him more addictive drugs. He was out of his depth and he knew it, and he didn't stop.

5) 'It was the most intimate thing but he trusted me. I was a doctor, so that sort of thing didn't bother me.'

In this final coup de creep Murray is talking about a medical procedure as if it was personally intimate for him. When you feel personally intimate with a patient, it is time to refer them to another clinician, or at least bring your clinical team together to talk about your inappropriate feelings and how to proceed. Murray, of course, was operating on his own — he didn't think he needed a care team, in spite of Jackson's state of near-neglect and myriad health problems. He intentionally worked in a setting where there was no chance his terrible judgements would be challenged by another qualified healthcare worker.

Too bad for the State of California. They spent so much time building a case to convict this charlatan, and he pretty much does the job for them in an interview not two full years later.

I post the link here as there are some interesting comments and this is not tabloid(?).
http://groupthink.jezebel.com/the-md-that-killed-mj-five-awful-quotes-from-his-tell-1470774300
 
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The MD That Killed MJ: Five Awful Quotes From His Tell-All Interview

In 2012 Dr. Conrad Murray was sentenced to four years for involuntary manslaughter. He had been administering the surgical anesthetic propofol to Michael Jackson to help him sleep, which is a bit like your family doctor giving you a bottle of 90 Vicodin for a stubbed toe. Michael Jackson, age 50, died as a result.

Like most nonviolent offenders in California, Dr. Murray served half his time, and he is now out...on the interview circuit.

A lot of fans familiar with the Jackson clan are used to scumbag behavior of the highest order. I'd like to to explain, from a medical perspective, why Dr. Murray deserves a special level of hell for his exploitation of Michael Jackson.

In this Daily Mail interview, Murray crosses pretty much every boundary normally maintained in the patient-physician relationship. In trying to showcase his innocence, he proves he's even worse than we thought. Let's break it down, shall we?

1) 'We were family. We loved each other as brothers.'

Good doctors don't say they love patients. Clinicians are human, and we care for patients, sometimes a lot. However, a doctor holds a unique power over a patient. Saying "I love you" entangles the patient in a "family" relationship with a seriously ****ed up power disparity. Michael Jackson, who was publicly and tragically searching for a loving family pretty much his entire life, did not need a doctor to say "I love you." He needed a doctor to treat his physical and mental illnesses.

2) 'You want to know how close we were? I held his penis every night to fit a catheter because he was incontinent at night.'

Good doctors do not brag about doing routine procedures, particularly when the procedure is an embarrassing one, like putting in a catheter. But this isn't just sad because Murray is bragging about a procedure you could probably do yourself for an ailing friend or family member: it's evil because this is a massive, heinous breach of medical confidentiality. Yes, this would be straight up illegal if this information hadn't been brought to light already in Dr. Murray's trial for killing Jackson. This is the kind of information that Dr. Murray swore as a physician that he would take to his grave for Michael Jackson. Instead, Michael Jackson is in his grave, and this information is in the Daily Mail.

3) 'I tried to protect him but instead I was brought down with him.'

No, Dr. Murray: the full weight of your bad judgment was brought down on him, and he died as a result. A good doctor admits a mistake, especially when the mistake was costly or fatal. If you don't admit your mistakes, you're going to make them again and again. I wouldn't put this guy in charge of the medical care of a stray dog.

4) 'I am a trained cardiac specialist, this is what I do.'

This is an outright lie. Murray was trained in cardiology. In his enormously lucrative private practice as an in-home physician to the stars, he was treating all kinds of illness well outside of his specialty however he saw fit. He identified that his patient was a drug addict with incredible access to all kinds of medications from many different doctors, and instead of seeking the correct specialized care for his patient's serious medical condition, he gave him more addictive drugs. He was out of his depth and he knew it, and he didn't stop.

5) 'It was the most intimate thing but he trusted me. I was a doctor, so that sort of thing didn't bother me.'

In this final coup de creep Murray is talking about a medical procedure as if it was personally intimate for him. When you feel personally intimate with a patient, it is time to refer them to another clinician, or at least bring your clinical team together to talk about your inappropriate feelings and how to proceed. Murray, of course, was operating on his own — he didn't think he needed a care team, in spite of Jackson's state of near-neglect and myriad health problems. He intentionally worked in a setting where there was no chance his terrible judgements would be challenged by another qualified healthcare worker.

Too bad for the State of California. They spent so much time building a case to convict this charlatan, and he pretty much does the job for them in an interview not two full years later.

Bubs, where did this come from?
 
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11-minute video from Murray's 60 Minutes Interview-No media links, video uploaded to Boycott Conrad Murray Campaign's YouTube and posted on Boycott Conrad Murray Campaign's tumblr.
http://boycottcmcampaign.tumblr.com/post/68055649362/boycottcm-conrad-murray-interview-60-minutes

Conrad Murray's interview with DaybreakITV-No media links, video uploaded to Boycott Conrad Murray Campaign's YouTube and posted on Boycott Conrad Murray Campaign's tumblr.
http://boycottcmcampaign.tumblr.com/post/68064509367/boycottcm-conrad-murray-on-daybreakitv-conrad
 
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Didn't he also claim in the Mail on Sunday interview that weak life signals came back in the hospital? That's obviously just another lie. No hospital stuff ever mentioned such a thing, IIRC. Michael was obviously dead by the time paramedics arrived.
He's talking about the brief burst of electrical activity in the heart that occurs after an atropine injection. It's just a chemical reaction, and if you're too far gone, it's not a true life sign.
 
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He's talking about the brief burst of electrical activity in the heart that occurs after an atropine injection. It's just a chemical reaction, and if you're too far gone, it's not a true life sign.

Also, the paramedic and the emergency room doctor testified at the criminal trial that he was gone already. The paramedic even stated that his eyes were dry. He had been gone for a while before 911 was even called and Murray knows it.

Conrad Murray never loved Michael. He only jumped onboard to make some big money, and that's all he cared about. And he's mad that Michael up and died on him. This is his idea of some payback. That's how sick this mofo is.:puke:
 
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