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Dangerous Short Films are currently being upscaled to 4K on YouTube!

JEMFTV said:
I also would’ve chosen the graffiti effects-version. The original makes Michael look like a rowdy —and it’s a bad influence on kids.
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The whole sequence is based on a videogame. It's specifically designed to appeal to kids.
 
It's a cheap AI upscale (fake 4K), but the source has slightly better quality than the Dangerous short films DVD.

Comparison:
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The one that looks like AI is the official 4K version. The other one is the 960p upscale I made in 2020.
 
HappyLeeHL said:
It's a cheap AI upscale (fake 4K), but the source has slightly better quality than the Dangerous short films DVD.

Comparison:
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The one that looks like AI is the official 4K version. The other one is the 960p upscale I made in 2020.
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Hello HappyLee!
 
KOPV said:
Still to this day the 'HIStory on Film, Vol 2" DVD has the best quality videos out. Minus the 4K updates... Which I like but they messed up the color and aspect ratio on Thriller.
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I appreciate the Thriller 4k for the clarity, but the colour and brightness absolutely kills the atmosphere of the video for me. I realise we are probably just used to how the original film was transferred to VHS/DVD, but Thriller should always be dark.
 
and Tidal, to.
MJJHD said:
Can you download it?
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Sorry i try but is complicated i know someone that can get the video from the Apple servers to get the max quality, and tomorrow maybe he do it, but don't worry in a few hours its in YouTube but you are missing anything its a IA Upscale
 
Okay guys,
It's Official.
Once again, the estate—our so-called "greatest in the world," the one that should set the standard—has chosen not to invest real effort into preserving Michael Jackson’s legacy.

Instead of properly scanning the original films, they continue pushing out lackluster A.I. remasters—versions fans had already produced themselves five years ago. This isn't just laziness; it's a staggering display of disregard for quality and for the legacy they’re supposed to protect.

They only seem to care about Thriller—everything else is treated like an afterthought. So yes, prepare yourselves for the inevitable “4K” A.I. remaster of the Wembley DVD. Another missed opportunity.

I’ll say it again: Do not support these releases.
The only message they seem to understand is silence at the register.
 

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kai said:
the one that should set the standard—
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Who says they should?
kai said:
the legacy they’re supposed to protect.
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When did they promise this?

I think people are getting the wrong end of the stick. The "estate" is a group of lawyers trying to make as much money as they can. Doing any work or releasing new music has got nothing to do with it. Quality has got nothing to do with it.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I’m gonna withhold judgment until I see the full thing and not screen caps. But Jesus H. Christ, just don’t do it if you aren’t gonna use the source film reels.
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men its Just AI in all the video
 
Cheap & easy > Expensive & time consuming.

Knowing them, they probably didn't even use the latest ai models (Astra/Starlight). If the tech was better then I don't think people would mind. It's just that we know these short films can be restored in the traditional way (if they actually found all of the raw film + are willing to remake the VFX).

The rest of his short films will probably get the easy upscale treatment...
 
The problem is we cannot trust on anything they say… they might give a statement saying they didn’t find the film reels. But is that the truth? We don’t know. The worst part is that when they did the OTW videos they made statement which kinda gave away that they only use AI on the things that weren’t shot on film. You cannot trust them at all…
 
The only explanation I can find for all this is that they lost the original films, and that's why they're doing this AI thing; otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense. From the Remember the Time screenshots or the 30-second preview, it looks horrible. We'll see how it looks on YouTube.
 
Bad88 said:
The only explanation I can find for all this is that they lost the original films, and that's why they're doing this AI thing; otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense. From the Remember the Time screenshots or the 30-second preview, it looks horrible. We'll see how it looks on YouTube.
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the video look just fine, more "Sharper" and "Definition" of the better source they found, but in the dance brake its where the problem is.

Now you can see Full Aspect ratio of 16:9 and no the 16:9 inside the 4:3, juts like Who is it for Example.
 
Bad88 said:
The only explanation I can find for all this is that they lost the original films, and that's why they're doing this AI thing; otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense. From the Remember the Time screenshots or the 30-second preview, it looks horrible. We'll see how it looks on YouTube.
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Takes effort and caring to do it right, take from that what you will, lol.
 
Bad88 said:
The only explanation I can find for all this is that they lost the original films, and that's why they're doing this AI thing; otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense. From the Remember the Time screenshots or the 30-second preview, it looks horrible. We'll see how it looks on YouTube.
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Or maybe… just MAYBE
It’s faster, cheaper, easier to just do an AI upscale
 
People always say that they can't use the original films because of the special effects, but what would be stopping them from using the original films for all the parts that don't have special effects and then use the tapes with AI upscaling only for the parts with special effects?
 
etoile 37 said:
People always say that they can't use the original films because of the special effects, but what would be stopping them from using the original films for all the parts that don't have special effects and then use the tapes with AI upscaling only for the parts with special effects?
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Maybe the quality difference would be very noticeable if it happened all the time. Most of Remember the Time doesn't have effects so that should be real 4K.
 
Yeah, I think using different sources and cutting them together wouldn't look good... maybe upscaling the film without special effects and re-build the effects would be best, but very time and money - consuming (they could do that, but... 👀 ).

I never thought about in which format all the short films were filmed. Is there a list/info which ones can really be transferred to 4K?

I think the AI upscaling looks like when you sharpen a jpeg too much and reduce the noise...not a big fan. But it would be okay-ish, if there is really no other possibility and they didn't use the wrong tape in the first place.

But again I have to ask myself how can all these tapes be lost. I am a photographer and I always have back-ups of important shootings, raw files included. So in this case I would assume they have back-ups of back-ups of back-ups etc. 🫠
 
etoile 37 said:
People always say that they can't use the original films because of the special effects, but what would be stopping them from using the original films for all the parts that don't have special effects and then use the tapes with AI upscaling only for the parts with special effects?
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It would look like this video. I don't think they used any AI, just left the special effects parts like they were on the videotape.
 
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