Q: “You are going to give us the first scoop on Michael Jackson of 1995.”
Dimond: “You know, . . . just when you think the story is going away, it’s not. It . . . the investigation is red hot again and here is the deal. The District Attorneys’ Office, the top investigators within the District Attorneys’ Office are looking for a 27 minute video tape that they believe shows Michael Jackson and a young boy.”
Q: “This is a recent video, or something…”
Dimond: “Yes. . . . It was taken right before Christmas as the story goes and it was recorded by one of Michael Jackson’s own security cameras. He likes, everybody knows that he likes to bug rooms and put cameras up and the whole 9 yards.”
Q: “How do they know about this?”
Dimond: “Well, it’s kind of a convoluted story but the bottom line as I understand it is: someone close to . . Michael Jackson knew of the existence of this tape. It is an x-rated tape, I must tell you and [--]
Q: “It is an x-rated tape?”
Dimond: “It is . . . yes.”
Q: “Of Michael Jackson?”
Dimond: “Truly explicit.”
Q: “It’s what? Michael Jackson and little boy. Are you 100% sure that this tape exists?”
Dimond: “I am as sure as I can possibly be.“
Q: “You have not seen it?”
Dimond: “I have not seen it but one of my best sources on the Michael Jackson story has seen it.”
Q: “Who .. . you have no doubts about.”
Dimond: “I have never had a doubt about this person, ever. I know the District Attorneys’ Office is looking for it because they are calling up reporters saying ‘Have you seen it.’ . . . Do you know where we can get it?”
Q: “Who had it and was showing it? His security people?”
Dimond: “Well, someone close to Michael Jackson found this tape and, in deep concern for the boy involved, gave it to boy’s mother.”
Q: “Uh oh. Should Michael not know that one of his own security cameras was recording what he was doing?”
Dimond: “Oh no, he knew. He absolutely knew.”
Q: “He is asking for trouble. (inaudible).”
Dimond: “You know, I remember way back when, more than a year ago, we interviewed the head of the pedo[ph]ile unit at the FBI in Quantico, Virginia and he said you know the down fall of pedo[ph]iles is that they love to keep a momento of their victims. Or, they love to take pictures or take videos. We don’t know why, but they do this. It is for their own self gratification later but it always comes back to bite them.”
Q: “. . . It looks to me. I think old Mike had better get his checkbook out again.. . . That’s the way this is going to end up.”
Dimond: “I got to tell you, Ken, is what the DA’s office is worried about. There is like a mad scramble to get to this tape before the Jackson camp gets to this tape.”
Q: “Here is what happened. . . . If that tape .. . does exist as you say.”
Dimond: “Right.”
Q: “Somebody close to Michael Jackson got a hold of it and thought holy, baloney this is worth a lot of money. Look, I’ll split it 50/50 with you and we can get maybe $50 million.”
Dimond: “That could very well be.”
Q: “And he gave it to the mother of the boy?”
Dimond: “Correct.”
Q: “So she has it.”
Dimond: “And, I have to tell you, if my source is correct, who has seen this tape, and again, he always has been. The acts that are being performed on that tape are exactly what the accuser a year ago said Michael Jackson did to him.”
Q: “Well, I mean you don’t need to beat around the bush. What are those acts?”
Dimond: “We are talking about oral sex.”
Q: “Um, hmm. Performed on Michael Jackson or by Michael Jackson?”
Dimond: “By Michael Jackson. . . So, . . . You know, it is going to unfold this week. I am trying to confirm right now, we understand that there might . . . have been copies made of this tape.”
Q: “I bet there was.”
Dimond: “And you know, if . . the Jackson camp gets it, or if it is somehow hushed up or bought off or whatever. I understand there might be a copy of it.”
Q: “Now, wait a minute. After all that happened during 1994 with Michael Jackson. What was a parent letting their kid do with Michael Jackson in his house.”
Dimond: “Bingo.”
Q: “Is this up in Santa Barbara?”
Dimond: “No, it was here in Los Angeles.”
Q: “In LA, so it’s our own District Attorney.”
Dimond: “And, I got to tell you, I know, I know many of the investigators within the District Attorneys’ Office. They got the top guys on this. They are not beating around the bush. I got to tell you too, this mother, when she got this tape, made an initial contact to the LAPD Sexual Exploitation Unit and they told her unbelievably. Well, okay, you say you have the tape, just take it to any local precinct and turn it in. And she said to herself. This is not the kind of protection I need, thank you very much, forget it.”
Q: “Well, . . . so why didn’t she?”
Dimond: “Because she is afraid. This is a very powerful man you are talking about. This is a man who has a lot of money to spread around, who can make your life very miserable. He can make –”
Q: “Well, but if you got –”
Dimond: “He can make it wonderful and very miserable.”
Q: “It looks to me that if you got him on tape doing it, he is going to have a pretty hard time.”
Dimond: “One of the DA’s investigators was quoted as saying, ‘if we get this tape and .. . if it shows what we think it shows, we put the handcuffs on Michael Jackson.’”
Q: “Well, Diane. You have to keep us informed on this. I know that Hard Copy will have it on tonight.”
Dimond: “And, listen, if anybody calls you with this tape, let me know.”
Q: “I will let you know.”
Dimond: “I will let you know.”
Later on in the broadcast, they briefly returned to the story:
Q: “Going back to the Michael Jackson video.”
Dimond: “Yeah.”
Q: “How did your friend see it? Who showed it to your friend?”
Dimond: “Oh, I just can’t tell you that. That would go –”
Q: “The mother?”
Dimond: [inaudible]
Q: “Well, it had to be either the mother of the boy or [inaudible].”
Q: “Or the security person who gave the tape.”
Dimond: “You guys always have the most insightful questions. I think I better hang up right now.” That concluded The Ken and Barkley Show interview.