Did Latoya Jackson have vitiligo?

thanks guys for all the info. really hope i havent annoyed anyone over this. ill read all this stuff thoroughly

can i just say though, that when it says the "progression may be rapid or gradual". i take this to mean the progression over the body.. not the progression in colour - from black to gragually lighter, ending up white. so i am still really unsure as to why MJ was darker in the BAD era than he was during the HIStory era, say. this doesnt make any sense to me cos once a patch of skin is affected.. it looses all its pigment and you are white. there is no gradual colour change, from what i understand about this disease.

However I am really interested in everything everyones said and i will be looking more into it. i know its neither here nor there really and it wont bring him back and all this is redundant... but its nice reading about anything MJ related at the mo for me

are u 4getting the lupus treatments and body MAKE UP? hello
 
he was using tons of makeup to keep a darker color during the 80's but underneath that he had big white patches that were spreading. did you ever see Lee Thomas? the news presenter with vitiligo
that's what Michael's spots looked like...Michael used to leave powder stains on his clothes all the time that's how much makeup he was using. that's what made him so self-conscious about the way he looked
 
Quote by John Landis

"When Michael proudly showed me the results of his first experiments with bleaching his skin (his chest looked like he was wearing a a pale white vest), I was horrified and told him that the doctor who did this was a criminal and that she should go no further," recalls John Landis, who directed "Thriller." He did not speak to me for almost two years after that. And when I did see him again, his plastic surgeries had progressed to the grotesque."

--Source: Rolling Stone Michael Jackson Tribute. p. 83.

Interview with Quincy Jones in Details Magazine

Q: You were there to witness the strange evolution in Michael's appearance. Did you ever step in and saying anything about it?
A: Oh, we talked about it all the time. But he'd come up with, "Man, I promise you I have this disease," and so forth, and "I have a blister on my lungs," and all that kind of b.s. It's hard, because Michael's a Virgo, man—he's very set in his ways. You can't talk him out of it. Chemical peels and all that stuff.

Q: Did you believe him about the disease?
A: I don't believe in any of that bullshit, no. No. Never. I've been around junkies and stuff all my life. I've heard every excuse. It's like smokers—"I only smoke when I drink" and all that stuff. But it's bullshit. You're justifying something that's destructive to your existence. It's crazy. I mean, I came up with Ray Charles, man. You know, nobody gonna pull no wool over my eyes. He did heroin 20 years! Come on. And black coffee and gin for 40 years. But when he called me to come over to see him when he was in the hospital on his way out, man, he had emphysema, hepatitis C, cirrhosis of the liver, and five malignant tumors. Please, man! I've been around this all my life. So it's hard for somebody to pull the wool over my eyes. But when somebody's hell-bent on it, you can't stop 'em.

Q: But it must've been so disturbing to see Michael's face turn into what it turned into.
A: It's ridiculous, man! Chemical peels and all of it. And I don't understand it. But he obviously didn't want to be black.

http://men.style.com/details/features/full?id=content_9937

I honestly believe MJ had vitiligo and discoid lupus but I don't get why Qunicy & Landis would say this, any ideas? Are these old quotes that have resurfaced or new ones?
 
^They said it because they were/are ignorant. Janet Jackson did say MJ confided in her about his disease and I think he perhaps told his mom. He was embarrassed. Why would he confide in Quincy and Landis? Because they do business together? Don't be naive.

Also MJ telling about plastic surgeries is something so personal why would you even compare that to him talking about his vitiligo? Who would go on national TV and promote their plastic surgeries? Would you? Look at those who've done surgeries, how many of them have you seen confessing all that to an unforgiving, judgemental world? Folks hardly want to talk about getting botox. These issues are psychological yet prevalent and nobody is going to subject themselves to such scrutiny and discussions.

And which single individual in history have you seen depigment thier skin like that and how is it done?? Chemical peels? Please ...

I encourage the use of common sense ladies and gentlemen. My patience on the foolish ideas on this board lately is next to none right now. I worry about our brain power sometimes. Forgive me if I seem harsh but foolishness I can hardly tolerate.
 
Also MJ telling about plastic surgeries is something so personal why would you even compare that to him talking about his vitiligo?

I know. I hate when people say "he got plastic surgery so he must have bleached his skin too." That is the stupidest argument! I swear sometimes I think everyone should be required to take a course in logic.
 
thanks guys for all the info. really hope i havent annoyed anyone over this. ill read all this stuff thoroughly

can i just say though, that when it says the "progression may be rapid or gradual". i take this to mean the progression over the body.. not the progression in colour - from black to gragually lighter, ending up white. so i am still really unsure as to why MJ was darker in the BAD era than he was during the HIStory era, say. this doesnt make any sense to me cos once a patch of skin is affected.. it looses all its pigment and you are white. there is no gradual colour change, from what i understand about this disease.

However I am really interested in everything everyones said and i will be looking more into it. i know its neither here nor there really and it wont bring him back and all this is redundant... but its nice reading about anything MJ related at the mo for me

I really hope you do look into it.
Yes, they mean the progression over the body.

Why MJ was darker in the Bad era than he was in the History era?
It wasn't his skin that was darker or lighter, like I said in my post on the first page, it was the make-up.
They could have suddenly decided to suddenly start used porcelain white make-up to cover up everything that's visible instead of black make-up but that would have been even more weird, one day he looks black, the other day he looks white...
They choose to gradually lighten the makeup they used.
Check the last pictures I've posted in my post on the first page, this is the bad era and he's wearing lots of makeup! I think it's the flash, but if you know he's wearing a lot of makeup you can clearly see his skin underneath the makeup isn't even, you can see lighter and darker areas.
The makeup he used then was lighter then the dark blotches and A LOT darker then the white ones.

I do believe they treated (bleached if you will) the darker areas that remained, like I said in my first post and made them lighter which allowed them to use lighter and less makeup when the blotches became lighter (during the History era).

And no need to worry, you're not annoying me.:)
You have the right to have your own opinion and decide whatever you like. I'm really glad you're prepared to read in to it and please don't just base your opinion on tabloid trash and rumours.
 
I know. I hate when people say "he got plastic surgery so he must have bleached his skin too." That is the stupidest argument! I swear sometimes I think everyone should be required to take a course in logic.

I totally agree

^They said it because they were/are ignorant. Janet Jackson did say MJ confided in her about his disease and I think he perhaps told his mom. He was embarrassed. Why would he confide in Quincy and Landis? Because they do business together? Don't be naive.

I just didn't get why Quincy & Landis would even speak up about any personal issues of MJ's, if they knew about them or not. I mean surely what they had was a good professional relationship and thus shouldn't speak of any private matters? I was just surprised to see what they had said that's all.

^
Also MJ telling about plastic surgeries is something so personal why would you even compare that to him talking about his vitiligo?

Yeah I know both very personal and private, he probably felt he had to talk on Oprah about Vitiligo to set the record straight, but I agree that noone really talks about cosmetic surgeries.
 
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Chemical peels, alot of the time, are used to remove acne scars. But I think i remember Dr. Kleins intervies when he said they had tried other things to even him out too- so maybe that was one of them.
Clearly, as quincy said, Michael tried to tell him he had vitiligo and a lung disorder too- but Quincy apparently just didn't want to believe him for whatever reason.
And from what I hear MJJ2theMAX, vitiligo may or may not be gradual, but depigmentation is. Meaning that the dark to lighter process that we saw was not a result of vitiligo, but of the depigmentation to blend in with the areas of vitiligo. I'm not completely sure

anyway- As far as we know, LaToya does not have vitiligo.
 
The vitiligo patches appear and spread. Their color doesn't gradually lighten but the spread of it can be gradual, fast and very widespread. I've seen it happen to people, even in Jamaica, and it is very amazing! And those who get depigmentation do so to lighten the remaining dark spots. This process is only used and successful on few areas of remaining color. Meaning me being dark, will not successfully depigment such a wide area of my body.
 
Are these old quotes that have resurfaced or new ones?

Jones made his statement shortly after Michael's death. I'm not sure of the Landis quote.

In any event, here is an article that may lend insight into Michael's psychological state in regards to vitiligo:

I turned from black to white: How a skin disorder changed a man's identity and his place in the world

As a five-year-old, every night I would pray to God to make me white. I grew up in an orphanage filled with largely white children, where I was often ridiculed for my skin colour.

And even at that age, I realised that some opportunities in this world were not for the taking if you were black.
'Please God, lighten my skin and make me like everyone else,' I would whisper before I went to sleep. It sounds like an impossible dream, but, for me, it came true.

Today, at the age of 44, as a result of the skin condition vitiligo, I am white. Were you to see me in the street, it wouldn't cross your mind that I'm anything other than a typical middle-aged Caucasian man.

The only reminder of the colour I once was is a circular patch of dark skin just 1cm wide at the top of my back.
In many ways, despite society's insistence that racism is a thing of the past, my life is better as a white man.

Much as this country proclaims that it is tolerant of every creed and colour, my experience shows this is not the case.

While this might sound shocking, I believe I'm only stating what every black man living in this country knows.

For instance, I was recently offered a job as a butcher, which I know I wouldn't have got were I black. How can I be so sure? After offering me the job, the owner of the business discreetly reassured me that it was not an establishment where black people were allowed to work.


Of course, my blood ran cold. Until that point, he'd seemed like a genuinely good bloke and I was astounded he was even capable of thinking such a thing, let alone saying it.

I couldn't bring myself to accept the job: I would have felt like a traitor to my own heritage.

As a white man, I also no longer have to live in fear of experiencing the physical and verbal assaults I used to endure as a black man - attacks that my black friends still endure.

At a school reunion a few years ago, I watched an old acquaintance of mine - who is black - being subjected to racist name-calling by a group of drunk white men.

I was furious, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't relieved that the fact my skin is now white meant I could just get on with my night in peace.

Such events weren't my everyday experience, but whenever they occurred I felt angry and humiliated. And nothing pleases me more than the fact that my two daughters, Stacey, 22, and Zoe, 20, both have fair skin and red hair.

There is no hint of their Nigerian blood (through my father) in their appearance, and since the day they were born, I've felt thankful that they will never be considered inferior because of their skin colour.

Yet, despite all this, I can't say I am truly content. Once, all that mattered to me was fitting in and being accepted, and I would have denied my heritage to achieve it.

But I've come to realise that to deny my heritage is to deny who I am. Often, when I look in the mirror, I am shocked by the unfamiliar white face staring back at me, and I can't help but mourn the colour that I once was.

I want people to know that, despite my fair skin, I am a black man.

I was born in Dublin in 1965. My father was a Nigerian geology student and my mother was white.

At three months old, I was sent to live in an orphanage run by nuns. When I later asked why I was there, I was told that my father had returned to Nigeria and my mother had suffered a nervous breakdown, which meant she couldn't look after me.

At that time, though, it would have been considered shocking to have a child outside wedlock, let alone a mixed race baby.

My mother, with whom I was reconciled in my teens, has never said this was why she gave me up, but I've always assumed that it played a significant part.

At the orphanage, my most vivid memories are of people laughing at me and calling me 'nigger' or 'blacky'.

I was just one of a handful of black children there and I always felt an outsider. When I was five, I noticed that my buttocks were becoming speckled with white dots, which resulted in even more ridicule.

In particular, I recall waiting in line for a bath, trying to hold back tears as others taunted me, shouting that I had a 'white a***'.

Not surprisingly, my paranoia over my skin colour deepened. I would get up early so I could wash in the communal bathroom alone, and took to getting dressed under my bedsheets so that no one would see my body.

Like any child, I just wanted to fit in. I had no idea what was happening, but my skin continued to fade from black to completely white in patches.

When I was six, I noticed lighter patches appearing on my fingers. Within a month, the tips of my fingers were white.

The other children - and even the nuns - would grab my hands in fascination, while I tried to wear gloves as much as possible or else keep my hands firmly in my pockets.

At seven, my toes and groin had turned a blotchy white, and by eight the transformation was slowly pushing down my thighs.

I'd been ridiculed and abused because I was black, and now I was even more of an oddity.

All I wanted was to be completely white. When I was 11, my mother, who was beginning to recover from her breakdown, paid a rare visit to the orphanage.
She was horrified when she saw the state of my skin, and assumed the nuns were bleaching it.

When I told her they weren't, she insisted on taking me to see a skin specialist in London.

It was there, after a number of tests, that I was diagnosed with vitiligo - a chronic skin disorder that affects around one per cent of the population and causes depigmentation.
The doctor's prognosis was that the vitiligo wouldn't spread much farther, as in its most common form it does not cover the entire skin.
I was also told there was no treatment for it. I was too busy basking in my mother's unexpected attentions even to think what this would mean for me. But I do remember feeling shocked.

I'd been sure the doctor would have a remedy to turn me either wholly black or white, so that I'd no longer be perceived as a freak.
Today, many theories exist to explain vitiligo. The most popular is that the body's own immune system attacks pigment cells.

It has been established, too, that genes predispose some people to vitiligo, and environmental factors such as psychological stress and hormonal changes can play a part.

But whatever the causes, the white areas on my skin continued to spread.

After this, I went to live with my mother, a waitress, at her home in London. That's when I met my father's brother, Sonny, and sister, Amber.

Mum was in a new relationship with Sonny and she could see I wasn't happy.

After eight months, I went to live with white foster parents - but over the years I have seen Mum frequently.

The depigmentation of my skin continued unabated. By the age of 15, I had white patches over my knees, and then the vitiligo started inching across my legs.

Even though I loved rugby and boxing - and had been told I had it in me to be a professional boxer - I gave up all sports because I couldn't bear to be seen in shorts.

The older I got, the less convinced I was that I wanted to be white after all. I'd been introduced to my father's siblings and it was through them and their stories about Nigeria that I learned what it meant to be black.

I grew my afro hair long and loved nothing more than dinner at AunAmber's, where she'd put on a spread of Nigerian food, which we'd eat with our fingers, sitting on the floor.

I finally felt as though I belonged in my own community, and I didn't want that to be taken from me.

By the age of 17, the vitiligo had spread all over my legs, back, torso and arms, and people stared at me wherever I went.

I was working in a butcher's shop, but my white hands and speckled wrists had customers recoiling as though I had some sort of contagious disease.

I preferred working at the back of the shop, preparing joints of meat and making burgers.
There, I could avoid being made to feel like a leper. I was confused about who I was - torn between fighting for the colour of my birth or giving in to becoming white.

But I always knew I'd be more accepted in society if I was white.

The reality of life in Britain was regularly hammered home to me - whether I was on stage in the band I had formed with another black man, hearing the crowd shouting racist abuse at us, or realising that a girl couldn't go out with me because her parents didn't approve of black men.

Of course, not everyone I met was racist, but I agonised over such unfairnesses until June 1983, when I met Stephanie at the London butcher's where I was working.

Two years later, we were married. I'd always felt self-conscious with women, but with Stephanie - who is white - it was just right and I was able to relax.
She seemed oblivious to the patches on my skin. Our daughters, Stacey and Zoe, were born in 1986 and 1988.

Becoming a father also helped me gain a greater perspective on life. Still, that's not to say I didn't think about my skin as the vitiligo continued on its journey across my body.

I knew now that there was a real chance my face could turn white. The first white patch appeared as a circle around my nostril in June 1989. That night, I cried.

Despite my childhood prayers to be white, I was now desperate to hang on to my black identity - especially on the part of the body that defines us most.

It's a terrifying feeling to think your identity is about to be changed and you have no control over what is going to happen.

I started applying cosmetic cream to my face to try to disguise the patches. It helped, but couldn't hide the problem.

A year later, I was prescribed a steroid cream along with tablets that were supposed to reverse the damage caused to my skin pigment. But the medications were in vain.
By 35, my face - and the majority of my body - was completely white. And although I still considered myself black, for the first time strangers saw me as a white man.
I used fake tan to give my body some colour, but I always made light of the transformation, joking with friends that it had been a while since I'd had a chance to sunbathe.

It's been hard for my wife, though, and we broke up two years ago. We had a very happy 20 years together, but ultimately, were she asked, I think she would say that there were three of us in our marriage: her, me and my ever-changing skin.

But my daughters, who know no different, have always accepted and loved me for who I am.

I am now getting used to my white face and finally learning to accept myself. One of the best things I've found about being white is the anonymity that comes with it.
I am not seen as an obstacle, or a potential problem, and it's much easier to mingle within a group.

My ambition now is to go further with my music and songwriting.
I will always remain fiercely protective of my black origins and I recently walked out of a wedding after a racist joke was made.

I'd love nothing more than to find my father in Nigeria so I can learn even more about my roots.
If I had the choice and could live in a world without racism, I would choose to be black. But whether my skin is black or white, I am still the same person inside.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...rdered-changed-mans-identity-place-world.html
 
La Toya always had a lighter skin tone, Im pretty sure Marlon did too.
BUT she definitely wears tons of foundation thats way too light for her skin. Its no way vitiligo, its just plain old make-up.

My grandmother is a light skinned black person. One holiday she had on make-up that looked perfectly normal in real time. I took a picture of her with the flash and her face appeared paper white in the picture, especially in contrast to her neck and arms which did not have the make-up on. Those pictures of Michael that you referred to never struck me as off because it looks exactly like what happened to my grandmother. Trust me, she was not turning or trying to be white. It just happened to be the way the flash interacted with the make-up. Pictures don't tell you everything, especially not motive (i.e. It's one thing to say he looked white and it's another to say he intended to look white.).

Thanks for all the info MoonGlider.

About the make-up in Thriller Era that you mention - Back then, make-up companies did not spend money developing good make-up in a ranges of tones for black people... it was RUBBISH and often gave an 'Ashy' look, which is what I think you are referring to.

This article may be of interest - http://foundationforblackskin.com/2...k-skin-the-history-of-make-up-for-black-skin/

'Make Up For Black Skin – The Difference
One of the major differences between make up for black skin and make up for lighter skin shades has to do with the underlying tones that the skin is made up of. Each tone type will react differently depending on how the cosmetic product was created. While some shades will enhance your natural beauty, others will leave your skin looking ashy, pale and chalky.''
Some companies really get it right now though, such as MAC.

Thanks for that. Exactly what I always thought.

I honestly don't know what to believe. Because Michael was less than forthcoming about his surgeries, some people understandably question his vitiligo explanation. I found these quotes illuminating by people who knew him well over a long period of time.

Quote by John Landis

"When Michael proudly showed me the results of his first experiments with bleaching his skin (his chest looked like he was wearing a a pale white vest), I was horrified and told him that the doctor who did this was a criminal and that she should go no further," recalls John Landis, who directed "Thriller." He did not speak to me for almost two years after that. And when I did see him again, his plastic surgeries had progressed to the grotesque."

--Source: Rolling Stone Michael Jackson Tribute. p. 83.

Interview with Quincy Jones in Details Magazine

Q: You were there to witness the strange evolution in Michael's appearance. Did you ever step in and saying anything about it?
A: Oh, we talked about it all the time. But he'd come up with, "Man, I promise you I have this disease," and so forth, and "I have a blister on my lungs," and all that kind of b.s. It's hard, because Michael's a Virgo, man—he's very set in his ways. You can't talk him out of it. Chemical peels and all that stuff.

Quicny is absolute rubbish...I HAVE HAD CHEMICAL PEELS! It reduces the visibitly of my deep acne scars.
And to say all that right after his "friend" dies. And right after he said all that he talked about how angry he was because he hired another producer who got paid more. He obviously has a Grudge..

And John Landis....No comment...thats the first time I've seen that. He talks about his chest looking like a pale white vest. umm...in 'they dont care about us' video we can still see his dark patches on his chest. These people...sigh. Theyr'e sick. How could they say these things at a time like this? Back stabbers.

And when it comes to surgeries, I honestly think he is too forthcoming. Who's business is it?
He already said it in his autobiography 'Moonwalk' when he didn't even have to!
Its just the Nose, and that cleft on his chin.
The reason why he always look strange and different, and like he is 'constantly changing' is:

1- His Vitiligo. Being black, and than white - of course it'll make him look different. and makes his (great)African facial features look strange as well (big far apart eyes, wide cheeks bones and jawline, big mouth etc), look at the other vitiligo patients.

2- His make-up and style. He keeps shaving and re-shaping his brows. thats the number one thing. and the the eyeliner and the foundation. I don't think he wears lipstick, until recently - the past few years hes been wearing lip liner, thats because hes getting old and when people age, their lips droop.

I mean, haven't you seen those make-over shows? how different make-up, hairstyle and clothes can make you look? I always hear people in make-over shows saying 'look totally different' 'that doesn't look like me' 'a new you' etc.

3 - His weight. Its constantly going up and down and up and down. Even the slightest weight gain or loss can make someone look different. I see the difference especially in his face(cheeks), arms and thighs.

4 - He AGES. Hes a Human Being, he ages. When people age, Their face sag, and cheeks lose fat. He probably did a face lift and collagen (especially during invincible era).

5 - The Nose. Yes, its too small. over done.

Maybe it was the colours of make-up used to hide it that changed.

Agreed.
 
ive been a michael fan since i was ten . im 26 now. ive ever been one to be all negative and i dont want to be slammed down for this.. but i never believed MJ had a skin disease. id like to be proved wrong but i dont judge MJ about whatever happened to his skin. its not really my business. but whenevr i see these pictures, i think the same effect could have happened if you were using bleaching creams.. like patches sometimes dont go as white as others

if MJ had vitilgo.. why the gradual change? i mean hes "white " when he did BAD but hes so much whiter , say , HIStory era... why? if you have vitiligo all piment goes. I also look at pics from Thriller era at awards shows etc,, where you can see MJ has tried to put white on his face to appear "whiter" as the flash of the camera shows this up. there apears to be a even black tone under this white

During Bad he was not yet depigmented. He just used a heavy make up that made him look white to even out the blotches on his face, but at the time he was not yet white IMO. For example look at this video from Bad era: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_3_kIysPM

His ears are black. His hands are black. His face is white.

He did bleach his skin, but the question is the motive. His detractors will say because he hated his race. I don't believe that. Why would he hate his race? In the first part of the above interview ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X07Fr1nYFHs ) when he is talking about the Bad video he says "he is a black kid like me..."

I believe he bleached his skin to even out the blotches from vitiligo. I don't know why it's so hard to believe. There are tons of pics about Mike on the Internet which show his blotches.
 
My mother has vitiligo for over 25 years now.

Her skin went from fully dark to 60% non-pigment (white) in 1 week.

OK?

She can't go in the sun for long and it messes with you mentally..

Just ask me, I grew up with my mom with vitiligo

And NO, Latoya doesn't have it, she's just light skinned.
 
I just didn't get why Quincy & Landis would even speak up about any personal issues of MJ's, if they knew about them or not. I mean surely what they had was a good professional relationship and thus shouldn't speak of any private matters? I was just surprised to see what they had said that's all.
Totally agree -- I'm surprised to see these quotes. I had seen the Quincy one before and was really baffled why he would say that to a magazine, whether he believed it or not.
 
As for Quincy and Landis, they just have an opinion. Landis allegedly saw Michael's "bleached" chest. But did Michael also tell him his motives or he is just guessing about that?

And Quincy, I love him, he was a pivotal part of Michael's career, I also like his music, but he sometimes says strange things about Mike. He also said something along the lines that he gave Michael "She's out of my life" to sing because he wanted to know if he can have deep feelings for a woman also, not just for a rat like in "Ben" (I think he said that in the same interview where he was talking about Mike bleaching his skin). I found that comment kind of rude too. As for Michael's skin, he just has an opinion, but he cannot be sure.

I personally believe that Michael used to lie about his plastic surgery, but, although there is a possility that he also lied about vitiligo, but so far there's more evidence about him really having that disease than not having it.
 
LaToya has always had light skin, even on pictures from the 70s. Sometimes she has been tanned sometimes not. There are some pictures that suggests that Prince has vitiligo though.
 
if MJ had vitilgo.. why the gradual change? i mean hes "white " when he did BAD but hes so much whiter , say , HIStory era... why? if you have vitiligo all pigment goes.

It happens in stages. And it DID go. Since 2000ish, he's looked almost translucent. He didn't look white, he looked like he had no pigment whatsoever.
 
I could never understand why people thought Michael wanted to be white. He has stated in interviews and songs several times that he is a proud black man. Everyone knows him as a black man. It just made no sense to me that he would try to change his ethnicity.
 
I could never understand why people thought Michael wanted to be white. He has stated in interviews and songs several times that he is a proud black man. Everyone knows him as a black man. It just made no sense to me that he would try to change his ethnicity.

I know, but sadly this wasn't a good enough story for the press I guess :'(
 
ive been a michael fan since i was ten . im 26 now. ive ever been one to be all negative and i dont want to be slammed down for this.. but i never believed MJ had a skin disease. id like to be proved wrong but i dont judge MJ about whatever happened to his skin. its not really my business. but whenevr i see these pictures, i think the same effect could have happened if you were using bleaching creams.. like patches sometimes dont go as white as others

I used to wonder the same thing, the key is to look at pics before he got plastic surgery becuz i think most people argue, well when he got a billion nose jobs then he also bleached his skin to be white, same time. but if you look at prethriller pics he does have some vitiligo/lupus looking skin. Also BENOQUIN is a treatment for vitiligo and it can take years to totally kick in and it doesn't just make a person "look white"..it takes all the pigment out, which is why he was literally white. not just pale skinned. that's my two cents. I think he had a skin disorder and then became neurotic with over treating it and his acne and lupus. I'd be scared too, having to perform and feeling like a "freak." I say this from my limited experiences with acne, it makes you very very insecure. Much less to go on stage and be in the public eye.

I believe that Landis quote is a crock. There's video of parts of his chest and his back in the making of Thriller and his skin looks great :)
 
I used to wonder the same thing, the key is to look at pics before he got plastic surgery becuz i think most people argue, well when he got a billion nose jobs then he also bleached his skin to be white, same time. but if you look at prethriller pics he does have some vitiligo/lupus looking skin. Also BENOQUIN is a treatment for vitiligo and it can take years to totally kick in and it doesn't just make a person "look white"..it takes all the pigment out, which is why he was literally white. not just pale skinned. that's my two cents. I think he had a skin disorder and then became neurotic with over treating it and his acne and lupus. I'd be scared too, having to perform and feeling like a "freak." I say this from my limited experiences with acne, it makes you very very insecure. Much less to go on stage and be in the public eye.

I believe that Landis quote is a crock. There's video of parts of his chest and his back in the making of Thriller and his skin looks great :)

But I don't understand why he'd keep denying that he was bleaching his skin?? Isn't it possible that he always used make-up all over his body? To be honest I don't know what to believe...
 
Well I mean, if he said YES Im bleaching my skin. It would imply he didn't want to be black. He probably knew the public wouldn't understand and it's none of their business really.
 
But I don't understand why he'd keep denying that he was bleaching his skin?? Isn't it possible that he always used make-up all over his body? To be honest I don't know what to believe...

People thought he was bleaching his skin to look white. That is technically not the case. He "bleached" his skin to destroy the pigmentation of his skin due to vitiligo. The vitiligo was making him whiter. Have you wondered why MJ never wore shorts or short sleeve clothing in public?
 
whoaaa how is this still being debated? lol did i just walk into 1992??

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yup, what im saying, thats a really really old picture (triumph tour?). before he had any major surgery. one nose job, that's it.
 
Well I mean, if he said YES Im bleaching my skin. It would imply he didn't want to be black. He probably knew the public wouldn't understand and it's none of their business really.

that's a good point....

People thought he was bleaching his skin to look white. That is technically not the case. He "bleached" his skin to destroy the pigmentation of his skin due to vitiligo. The vitiligo was making him whiter. Have you wondered why MJ never wore shorts or short sleeve clothing in public?

Yeah that had crossed my mind...but if he was bleaching his skin then it'd even it all out so why did he not reveal much skin in public? :doh: Sorry, it's 2am here and I'm being stupid tonight ;)
 
But I don't understand why he'd keep denying that he was bleaching his skin?? Isn't it possible that he always used make-up all over his body? To be honest I don't know what to believe...

Id prefer to call it 'Medicine' or vitiligo/lupus 'treatment' instead of bleach. lol
 
This ‘he wanted to be white’ theory just doesn’t fly folks.

OK ignore all the medical proof for a while. Let’s try to attack this from a stance of logic alone. Let’s pretend it’s me and not Michael Jackson. By the way, I’m half Italian, half Macedonian, Australian born. My foundation stick says ‘buttermilk’ on the bottom of it. But, let’s just say I desperately wanted to be umm, we’ll say, Mexican.

Ok, unless I was mentally retarded, wouldn’t I figure out that darkening my skin color still won’t make me Mexican because being Mexican is not reflective of my skin tone anyway? No? Ok, well let’s say I’m actually enough of a dumb ass to not realize this and so decide to proceed with making my skin darker to give me that Mexiliciousness I so eagerly desire.

So, I go to the tanning salon. After one too many sessions I start to get that nice bronze tone. I’m starting to look sooo Eva Longoria! I have that ‘Mexican’ glow. So I would stop now that I have um, achieved 'Mexicaness', yes? Wrong! Of course not!! Why would I stop? :s In fact, my next step for no apparent reason, would obviously be to go buy a black permanent marker and colour in my entire face and body because not only do I want to be Mexican, I want to be more Mexican than every other Mexican! Muahahaha!

Does this sound ridiculous to you? If it does then it should be equally as ridiculous when applied to Michael Jackson.

If it WAS that he wanted to be white and was insanely stupid enough to believe lightening his skin would make him white, he would have stopped at ‘bad’ white, not kept going to ‘ipod speaker’ white. Shit, I’m white and I’ve never seen anyone as white as Michael Jackson.

NO person would deliberately go to such unreasonable extremities. I'm just sayin..
 
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