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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Resa said:
I remembered Debbie talking about the "stigma" of being born out of wedlock as the reason that they decided to get married but I don't remember her or Michael saying that they married because of Katherine. It's very possible that I missed something though. I do remember JRT saying that in his book.
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missred07 said:
I think this is JRT's version. I think JRT had his source too. Who knows which one is true. To me, it sounds more reasonable. But who knows. Maybe he just decided to marry her and it's not anyone else business.



This is what I remembered too. I don't think MJ himself ever talked about this issue.
I think the most important thing is Debbie gave him what he wanted so long and those kids give him great joy. I really don't care why he married her.
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ok thank you both then..I must be mistaken..thank you for clarifying that. also I agree..it really isn't any of anyone's business what prompted their marriage.
 
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MsCassieMollie said:
Um I don't know what to think about this...
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dont know what to make out of Casio,,,But what I DO know is that the guy at the end,,,the guy that says ,,,this may not e the young popstar....He is an actor,,from the show CSI Miami. Dont know if you know this but it is a show about homicide cases. It is a show that has been on for years,,,and I quite enjoy it.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

can someone tell me please what the prince reasoning is? i dont know this??

I only know the story of katherine asked them to get married. And they did
 
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Ingelief said:
can someone tell me please what the prince reasoning is? i dont know this??

I only know the story of katherine asked them to get married. And they did
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Correct me if I said it wrong. Basically is just like the video people posted couple pages ago. The story kind of go MJ had business with Prince of Arab. Their religion like people to be married man having family etc. The Prince think it would improve MJ's public image and so on. MJ gave this reason to Frank for three different event, LMP, Debbie and Omer as his son. It's quite clear that Frank didn't buy the story think MJ just told it to keep things private to himself. (Frank kind of go why a Illegitimate son can improve MJ's public image and think the story doesn't make any sense at all.)
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

I dont see being born out of the wedlock as a huge problem tbh
 
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twinklEE said:
I dont see being born out of the wedlock as a huge problem tbh
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I got attacked for it on twitter but it was a huge problem in 90s Muslim Arabic countries - not even comparable to US or Europe. It can still be a huge problem in some countries.
 
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I don't think its too far fetched to think its possible that Michael stated more than one reason to different people.. Michael does have a track record of making things up to protect his privacy etc. I personally think it the real reason must be Katherine influencing him regarding the second marrage but I dont really doubt that he gave others a different answer
 
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ivy said:
I got attacked for it on twitter but it was a huge problem in 90s Muslim Arabic countries - not even comparable to US or Europe. It can still be a huge problem in some countries.
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Michael was neither a Muslim nor an Arab and I for one dont buy the he wanted to please the Muslim Prince Bin Talal or whatever his name is. Michael had no problems having Blanket ''out of the wedlock'' born by a surrogate, he could've done the same with Debbie as far as Prince and Paris were concerned.


I don't think its too far fetched to think its possible that Michael stated more than one reason to different people.. Michael does have a track record of making things up to protect his privacy etc
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That's true
 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Totally agree with what you said, but having signed a book deal with elitist owned Harper Collins (evil Murdock) it must've've been requiered to include controversial bits that could be picked out by the media for the usual wash, rinse, spin and repeat. Of course I won't assume that Frank imagined the scope of negativity that could come out of his labor of love. The road to hell is paved with good intention after all.


serendipity said:
He says the first time he heard of Propofol was after MJ died. So obviously, he is just assuming, both in the book and interview, that this is what MJ *may have* used. And this garnered so many negative headlines that "MJ was using Propofol in 99", when he doesn't know that for a fact.

Honestly, if MJ didn't tell him that or he didn't see it, he shouldn't have put it in there, knowing that this is what the media will zero in. He spared the Jacksons by not mentioning their f***ry before the MSG shows, he should have extended the same courtesy to MJ and spared him this additional negative publicity. Why can't people be smart about this? I don't mind him making money, but for God's sake, at least try not to add to the tarnishing of his image. I guess this is too much to ask from family and friends.

I understand that his intention was to clear things up, but the result was the complete opposite. He played right into the media's hands. And after so many years around Michael, this is inexcusable.
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Petrarose said:
Ash this is what I do not understand. I thought when people went on a show they looked at some taped episodes by the interviewer to see the person's style and focus. Also, I thought people would prepare certain answers in their heads once they view the interviewer's style and focus, so they could deal with any questions coming their way. It seems a lot of these book authors have not been doing this, and get flustered when they go on these shows. They should know that Drew would interrupt because he wants his biased view to remain in the mind of the audience. These are typical tricks of these types of hosts. It is really a pity, because more people look at tv than will buy this book.

What puzzles me is why would Frank go on an addict show to promote his book. To me, this should be the last place he went to. What do you think?[/QUOTE]

Frank must not have read the fine prints of his contract. Blinded by the big check? Maybe.

Onward to MSNBC for an interview with Bashit....... Just kidding. Or am I ???
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Frank was dr. dew hln and he was insisting that he never whitnessed Michael use propofol, and dr drew shutting him up basically saying you did whitnessed can only be resulted by propofol and no other drug reacts like that.. Frank kept stating No etc..

Frank does not say he ever saw him use propofol. Like above msgs state, he only stated that it could have been..
 
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twinklEE said:
Taj should use that time to do something useful, like getting a job. Instead of rambling on twitter.
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Personally I feel for him pouring his heart out on Twitter.

The problem with continuing the Jackson legacy is it'll never happen if noone can write hit songs on a regular basis. Books can only go so far since the fan base is overwhelmed with that.

They need hit songs or hit movies to compete with what's out there. Sadly, it looks like only Michael was that talented.
 
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KOPV said:
Frank was dr. dew hln and he was insisting that he never whitnessed Michael use propofol, and dr drew shutting him up basically saying you did whitnessed can only be resulted by propofol and no other drug reacts like that.. Frank kept stating No etc..

Frank does not say he ever saw him use propofol. Like above msgs state, he only stated that it could have been..
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Damaged done. Cause he let it go there by stating that!
 
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missred07 said:
Correct me if I said it wrong. Basically is just like the video people posted couple pages ago. The story kind of go MJ had business with Prince of Arab. Their religion like people to be married man having family etc. The Prince think it would improve MJ's public image and so on. MJ gave this reason to Frank for three different event, LMP, Debbie and Omer as his son. It's quite clear that Frank didn't buy the story think MJ just told it to keep things private to himself. (Frank kind of go why a Illegitimate son can improve MJ's public image and think the story doesn't make any sense at all.)
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ok thx. How was michael and his kids allowed in that country bahrein back then? how long did they stay there that michael took the prince as reason to get married?
 
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Ingelief said:
ok thx. How was michael and his kids allowed in that country bahrein back then? how long did they stay there that michael took the prince as reason to get married?
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I dont think it was for him living there he was doing business and forming some entertainement companies with the Prince and arabian associates and they wanted MJ to be presented in the best way possible so not have any of them question his integrity. I dont think this would be MJ's main reason but certainly could have been a factor when deciding to marry.
 
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I will always be grateful that MJs second wife not only gave him two beautiful children but also testified in 2005 as to what a wonderful person and father he was. Knowing MJs future was on the line, Lisa thoughts about MJ on Oprah were "Holy Mother of God." She did all she could do to destroy MJ during this horrible time in his life and that is what people will remember regarding MJs first very brief marriage. I'm glad Katherine has met and likes Debbie.

Lisa always was and is a fan of MJ.
 
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twinklEE said:
Michael was neither a Muslim nor an Arab and I for one dont buy the he wanted to please the Muslim Prince Bin Talal or whatever his name is. Michael had no problems having Blanket ''out of the wedlock'' born by a surrogate, he could've done the same with Debbie as far as Prince and Paris were concerned.
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I dont belive any of that either
 
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serendipity said:
But the public does read tabloids. That's the problem -- this is the publicity this book is generating with both tabs and legit media, it's all negative.
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This IS the bottom line right there.

What was the point of this book?

If Frank wanted to write a book for the fans to buy, why put stuff in it that will make us NOT buy the book.

Is there anybody left on Earth that don't know that the only people who buy MJ stuff is his fan base?
Haters do not buy MJ stuff. They just read headlines and run with that.

So if Harper Collins published this book thinking it'd become a best seller and the fans would overlook the tasteless stuff in it, well that's a BIG FAIL for the marketing research department.

I sure ain't giving them my money.
 
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riviera1992 said:
Petrarose said:
Ash this is what I do not understand. I thought when people went on a show they looked at some taped episodes by the interviewer to see the person's style and focus. Also, I thought people would prepare certain answers in their heads once they view the interviewer's style and focus, so they could deal with any questions coming their way. It seems a lot of these book authors have not been doing this, and get flustered when they go on these shows. They should know that Drew would interrupt because he wants his biased view to remain in the mind of the audience. These are typical tricks of these types of hosts. It is really a pity, because more people look at tv than will buy this book.

What puzzles me is why would Frank go on an addict show to promote his book. To me, this should be the last place he went to. What do you think?[/QUOTE]

Well Dick Zimmerman appeared on Dr. Drew and he didn't allow Drew to pull his usual stuff. Drew kept interrupting but Zimmerman was forceful in getting out what he wanted to say (something lovely he wrote for Michael). LOL he got it out despite Drew and his rude interruptions. So Frank should have studied that interview hehe. He needed to be more assertive. Guess he never watched the show before.
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^tbh I think their 'scheme' worked. Just see this forum, many fans buy it and even defend frank cascio to death. Some are satisfied and believe they finally knew the 'real' michael jackson in this book :smilerolleyes:. The publishers' target is forever the general public, not a few activists diehard fans. If Frank Cascio really wanted to defend Michael, he would never ever put those controversy and sensationalism in the book, people with common sense know those things will be the main focus to the media. he did so because he knew those things gave him Media attention=reach more people=more potential buyers=more$$$$$. He will never get one cent from me, I read this book because I am curious what's in the book make Roger Friedman highly recommended. As the fan, I felt we should be Michael's voice because he cannot defend himself anymore, but I heard more Frank Cascio's voice in this thread:no:.Frank cascio was playing both side from the beginning. To media, all the stories they loved to hear. To fans, all the things fans love to hear. I think he really got some "good" advice from rabbi schmuley and roger Friedman about how to write a Michael Jackson book. He knew how to play the game.

(learned something funny everyday, Frank Cascio was Michael Jackson personal assistant/personal manager/producer/creative consultant, Michael's true heir and now his financial adviser. wow! ... too bad, Michael's BFF Frank Cascio didn't know why MJ cut off Rabbi Shmuley and distanced the Jacksons. but at least we knew everyone around Michael was so nice and great except the gone too soon Liz Taylor, oh and Michael once had a perfect wife LMP)
 
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loveforever said:
^tbh I think their 'scheme' worked. Just see this forum, many fans buy it and even defend frank cascio to death. He didn't believe those things and thought michael but he still put them in the book. Some are satisfied and believe they finally knew the 'real' michael jackson in this book lol. the publishers' target is forever the general public, after all there are just thousands of
Frank cascio was playing both side from the beginning. To media, all those sensitinal stories they loved to hear. To fans, all the things fans love to hear. I think he got some "good" advice a lot from rabbi schmuley and roger Friedman about how to write a Michael Jackson book.
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You have something there^^. He appeased the media with the negative content, and gave the fans flowery stories about Michael which they adore. Plus some fans may feel they finally get to know more about Michael from a real friend who was with him. The only problem is that the haters will not buy the book, only look at TV and read the newspapers and tabloids, so I do not see how this book will generate much income for the publishers unless fans' love for intimate MJ information is greater than their disgust of the negative issues and betrayal in the book. If that is the case then thousands of fans will buy the book and make Frank and HP even richer.

It is not that the book is solely about Michael's addiction, but the media is using it as a factual source to show that this is who Michael really is. What will be interesting to see is how the book does on the bestseller lists. Then we will see how much support it got among the buying public.

Based on the fact that fans who read the book in this thread have such glowing reviews of it and have an explanation for every comment that some fans raise about the betrayal/drug/privacy/inaccuracies issues, leads me to think that a number of fans are really capable of dismissing the unsavory issues and simple focus on their need to get that intimate information. It also means that what some see as inappropriate contents in the book, may not be seen by other fans as inappropriate, leading them to enjoy the book, encourage others to buy, defend it, and buy some for Christmas gifts.
 
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Ya, I wonder what's the latest sale numbers for Katherine's book. Usually authors that go on Oprah are almost certain to go pretty high on the best sellers' list. So if KJ's book didn't do good after TWO Oprah shows because not enough fans bought it, well the same thing should happen with Frank's book.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Aphrodyte Jones book The Michael Jackson Conspiracy was endorsed by the fan base and became a best seller.
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Petrarose said:
You have something there^^. He appeased the media with the negative content, and gave the fans flowery stories about Michael which they adore. Plus some fans may feel they finally get to know more about Michael from a real friend who was with him. The only problem is that the haters will not buy the book, only look at TV and read the newspapers and tabloids, so I do not see how this book will generate much income for the publishers unless fans' love for intimate MJ information is greater than their disgust of the negative issues and betrayal in the book. If that is the case then thousands of fans will buy the book and make Frank and HP even richer.

It is not that the book is solely about Michael's addiction, but the media is using it as a factual source to show that this is who Michael really is. What will be interesting to see is how the book does on the bestseller lists. Then we will see how much support it got among the buying public.

Based on the fact that fans who read the book in this thread have such glowing reviews of it and have an explanation for every comment that some fans raise about the betrayal/drug/privacy/inaccuracies issues, leads me to think that a number of fans are really capable of dismissing the unsavory issues and simple focus on their need to get that intimate information. It also means that what some see as inappropriate contents in the book, may not be seen by other fans as inappropriate, leading them to enjoy the book, encourage others to buy, defend it, and buy some for Christmas gifts.
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I would agree that there's a difference between the fans. For some it's too soon after the trial to talk about some issues, for some it's something that they accepted. For some fans they want a picture of a perfect Michael, some fans are more open to a human Michael.

As for the last paragraph - if you had read the book you'll see that the "dismissing of unsavory issues" isn't the case. As you mention in the second paragraph the book isn't about the drug issues and definitely does not portray and addict. On the contrary it explains a 2 year time period with physical and emotional tolls and then shows a person that on his own will got rid of those issues. There's nothing unsavory that requires dismissal.

Furthermore there's almost no information that I would call unbelievably "intimate" and also I do not think that's the issue at all as you were all able to thank to a person on this thread for writing a private angry talk and disclosing of a one and only true love. If an information fits to people's train of thought they are open to accept it regardless of how private it might be.

Your opinion on "negative issues and betrayal" is achieved without reading the book and you fail to acknowledge that the most of the people that read the book do not feel this way. I'm surprised to see that people cannot acknowledge that perhaps their media fueled rush conclusions was wrong. Yet they still continue to blame the people that actually read the book and give "positive" reviews to the book as some sort of people that dismiss negatives, enjoy intimates and such.

And I'm curious when did MJ fans started to base their opinions on media?
 
Interesting to see some are stereotyping the people who like the book as pro-Cascio. Based on my earlier posts, it&#8217;s not difficult to tell I&#8217;m not a Cascio supporter at all. So, there is no reason for me to &#8220;defend&#8221; Frank Cascio. I like the book because the book is well written. It&#8217;s objective. It&#8217;s not sensationalistic. It&#8217;s touching. It&#8217;s thoughtful. It&#8217;s not perfect, but it&#8217;s still a very good book to read. To say that people who enjoy Frank&#8217;s book prefer juicy details over safeguarding Michael&#8217;s privacy is absurd. Some of us who have read the book acknowledge the fact that we are disappointed at the negative headlines generated by this book. However, after reading the book and putting everything in context, I can&#8217;t blame Frank for the media&#8217;s continuous deliberate character attacks on Michael. I think Frank did a great job in explaining Michael&#8217;s issues in his book. </SPAN>

It&#8217;s totally not fair to judge the book by the media excerpts and the summaries posted in this thread. It&#8217;s too easy to misinterpret what Frank said and spin it into something else. The rehab story got twisted. The explanation on the marriages got twisted. </SPAN>

Unfortunately, I think Frank is terribly misunderstood by many here. I was one of the people who misunderstood Frank before. I learned my lesson. </SPAN>
 
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^ I agreed with "love is magical"'s post. I think we shared a lot of opinions in common. It's quite interesting that people would call those who enjoyed reading book only looking for juicy details and even called people defend Cascio to death.

First of all, those same people have no problem reading someone who worked with MJ before sharing some conversation and even use that as evidence to say Frank is a liar. Is this kind of double standard of the definition regarding "invading MJ's privacy"? It's fine of you to read something shared on board and have no problem reading those things. However, at the same time, when reading Frank's book, it would define as invading MJ's privacy? I really don't understand the logic here. I can only see double standard here.

Second of all, I don't know the definition of the "juicy" stuff I can just base on my observation. For myself, I really don't care who MJ dated, who is Blanket's mother, whether he smoke weed, why he married LMP (It's so obvious for me that MJ loved her.) I don't understand why people are all focusing on discussing these issues. How come no one discuss how sweet MJ taught them homework? how he spent his moment with his kids? how he work so hard to perfect his album? how he joked around with his friend? etc? No wonder the media like to put all the other so called juicy stuff in their news because people like to discuss those things.


Third of all, most of people who enjoyed reading Frank's book admitted that they still have questions to Frank (including me) and think some topics might not needed to be included in the book. Many of us including me also said multiple times that we are still unhappy about the negative press caused by the book. My questions is why suddenly these people who enjoyed the book became defending Frank to death or be put into pro-Cascio group? For myself, I really don't understand why I need to pro- Cascio? Are we the one who overlook the imperfect part of Frank's book? or you are the one who overlook our acknowledgment of the imperfect part and still like to simply put people who like to read his book into Pro-Cascio group?

Forth of all, after I read the whole book, my personal opinion is I really think the media twisted so many things wrote in his book. and since when MJ fans judge a book by the media excerpt or the summary here? I had to admitted that I am one of the people who jump to judge Frank too quick before I read the book and I admitted my mistake. I also felt sorry that I should not do summary to let people have the chance to misinterpret his words further.

Last of all, I don't think there's only black or white in the world and I don't think it's easy to just divide people into two groups anti-Cascio or Pro-Cascio. I never saw myself pro-Cascio and I didn't see many people who enjoyed reading the book is trying to defend Cascio to death to pro-Cascio. I myself can't find any reason to pro-Cascio. BTW, I myself won't just put people who don't like Cascio writing a book into some sort of group and saying they anti-Cascio for overlooking all the good part he said.
 
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Has anyone found the complete interview of Frank on Wendy Williams yet? I find it ODD that it can't be found anywhere...I'm beginning to think the network is blocking it or refusing to upload it. You know, anything GOOD about MJ, they don't want out...IJS.

I'm going to read the book myself, then form my opinion, whether popular or unpopular. I had a knee-jerk reaction to the medias excerpts, etc. when I'm normally wary of them and their agenda. So, to form my own opinion, based on all the facts, I will read it. I don't like to go into wars half-assed.
 
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riviera1992 said:
Ya, I wonder what's the latest sale numbers for Katherine's book. Usually authors that go on Oprah are almost certain to go pretty high on the best sellers' list. So if KJ's book didn't do good after TWO Oprah shows because not enough fans bought it, well the same thing should happen with Frank's book.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Aphrodyte Jones book The Michael Jackson Conspiracy was endorsed by the fan base and became a best seller.
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Good point. People forget that the fan community have a great impact when they join together to support something. Books that most of the community do not support, tend to make less money, like Katherine's book. Let's see how Frank's book do. I am getting the feeling that fans who do not see the interviews, will rely on other fans to give them an idea of the book, because Frank is not a well-known author. Fan's dislike, like, or indifference to the book certainly will influence some buyers.
 
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