Janet Jackson: What's Happening~~~

[Carmour260]

I wouldn't worry too much about it because the media will always try to twist anything into something negative. Siblings always call each other names growing up, even as adults. Janet spoke about the names her brothers and sisters used to called her many times years ago, it's nothing new. What really stuck out for her was when she started doing "Good Times," when they taped her chest.

We know how the media is considering the fact that they failed with that mockumentary big time, and the skeletons they had are finally coming out, so Michael's an easy target unfortunately to try to distract the world from what's really going on.

We may not always agree with everything, but I'm looking forward to see her documentary. Unseen footage is always exciting!

 

[Nite Line]

And some media even thought it was a good idea to change some words to. Some sources claim Mike called her a slut, whereas in the clip itself she says slaughter hog. The media is just being the media again. But her being his sister, after all that crap in 2019 you'd think she would think twice.

I never follow much about Janet, but you say it's not very surprising. She has a history of this?

Janet with the help of the Jackson brothers tried to force Michael to tour with them around 2006-07, because Janet wasn't selling out arenas herself. That is what I have heard a lot of more knowledgeable fans than me say.

I like Janet's music a lot but her attitude in the last decade or so has been disappointing.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

I expected there to be a discussion about her upcoming doc. I saw Twitter has all kinds of stuff on it and of course the MSM is having a field day. Gotta say that it wasn't exactly wise of Janet to put things like "guilty by association right? That's what they call it." in the trailers of her doc. Or the bits where she recalls MJ as kid teasing her with names, exactly with that the media is having a field day with now and it could have been avoided. Why mention this when you know damn well the trailer will show it? She 100% has a say in how the trailer will look.

Apparently it's also decades old, she has spoken about this before and said that MJ never meant those words as in to hurt her, but did apologize to her. So I don't get why she'd bring it up again to be honest.

Exactly. She knew what she was doing. This is not the first time has thrown Michael under the bus.Soon after he died she went on shows claiming the family had done a drug intervention. That was a lie. There was no intervention. THEY were trying to get him to tour with them and he refused. Randy started spreading the rumor that they had tried an intervention. Btw, he is in cohorts with Janet on this documentary because he is a coproducer. He is known to spread rumors to tabloids for money and spread lies on Michael. What I find hypocritical is that there was absolutely no reason to bring these things up. MICHAEL would NEVER have done that to her or any other sibling. I don’t want to hear ANY excuses from any Janet fan. She knew how the media would take what she says and use it against Michael.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Janet with the help of the Jackson brothers tried to force Michael to tour with them around 2006-07, because Janet wasn't selling out arenas herself. That is what I have heard a lot of more knowledgeable fans that me say.

I like Janet's music a lot but her attitude in the last decade or so has been disappointing.

You are correct in what you stated.

 

[filmandmusic]

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[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Janet with the help of the Jackson brothers tried to force Michael to tour with them around 2006-07, because Janet wasn't selling out arenas herself. That is what I have heard a lot of more knowledgeable fans than me say.

I like Janet's music a lot but her attitude in the last decade or so has been disappointing.

Yeah I read about this. In that same article she claimed MJ became different after Thriller, he was no longer the fun, goofing brother and apparently during the filming of Scream the producers wanted them separated or something which to her felt like a competition.

And they also mentioned the tour. She would be the starting act. She claimed he was very stand offish about it. As cool as it could have been to see them perform together again....Michael clearly wasn't interested, wanted to do things solo as he had been used to all these years.

It's very sad to see all this. Those trailers could have been about solely Janet things , but of course all trailers are fully about Michael.

Exactly. She knew what she was doing. This is not the first time has thrown Michael under the bus.Soon after he died she went on shows claiming the family had done a drug intervention. That was a lie. There was no intervention. THEY were trying to get him to tour with them and he refused. Randy started spreading the rumor that they had tried an intervention. Btw, he is in cohorts with Janet on this documentary because he is a coproducer. He is known to spread rumors to tabloids for money and spread lies on Michael. What I find hypocritical is that there was absolutely no reason to bring these things up. MICHAEL would NEVER have done that to her or any other sibling. I don’t want to hear ANY excuses from any Janet fan. She knew how the media would take what she says and use it against Michael.

What the hell, I never knew that about Randy. Damn, at least he did support MJ in 2019 when that ridiculous "doc" came out. What kind of rumors and lies has he been spreading in the past?

Why can't they all just be like Taj or Brandi? In full support, acting normal, yeesh.

 

[mj_frenzy]

Exactly. She knew what she was doing. This is not the first time has thrown Michael under the bus.Soon after he died she went on shows claiming the family had done a drug intervention. That was a lie. There was no intervention. THEY were trying to get him to tour with them and he refused. Randy started spreading the rumor that they had tried an intervention. Btw, he is in cohorts with Janet on this documentary because he is a coproducer. He is known to spread rumors to tabloids for money and spread lies on Michael. What I find hypocritical is that there was absolutely no reason to bring these things up. MICHAEL would NEVER have done that to her or any other sibling. I don’t want to hear ANY excuses from any Janet fan. She knew how the media would take what she says and use it against Michael.

It was not a lie what Janet Jackson said about that.

The Jackson family tried multiple drug interventions so as to help Michael Jackson (in his final years) fight drug addiction.

His own mother Katherine Jackson also confirmed that to police few months after his death (she specifically confirmed that to LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez).

Each time the Jackson family tried to intervene, Michael Jackson would shut them down.

Tito Jackson also stated that they tried to intervene, but AEG Live kept them away from Michael Jackson.

Several Jackson family insiders also confirmed that, such as the family drug intervention that took place in Las Vegas few years before his death.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

It was not a lie what Janet Jackson said about that.

The Jackson family tried multiple drug interventions so as to help Michael Jackson (in his final years) fight drug addiction.

His own mother Katherine Jackson also confirmed that to police few months after his death (she specifically confirmed that to LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez).

Each time the Jackson family tried to intervene, Michael Jackson would shut them down.

Tito Jackson also stated that they tried to intervene, but AEG Live kept them away from Michael Jackson.

Several Jackson family insiders also confirmed that, such as the family drug intervention that took place in Las Vegas few years before his death.

Hmmm I see.

But according to the autopsy no signs of drugs were found and in fact they said it was a very healthy body, especially for that age.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

It was not a lie what Janet Jackson said about that.

The Jackson family tried multiple drug interventions so as to help Michael Jackson (in his final years) fight drug addiction.

His own mother Katherine Jackson also confirmed that to police few months after his death (she specifically confirmed that to LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez).

Each time the Jackson family tried to intervene, Michael Jackson would shut them down.

Tito Jackson also stated that they tried to intervene, but AEG Live kept them away from Michael Jackson.

Several Jackson family insiders also confirmed that, such as the family drug intervention that took place in Las Vegas few years before his death.

Yes, it was a lie. There were never any drug interventions. These so-called interventions were Joe, Janet and the rest of the family, BADGERING Michael to tour. Michael told them maybe later and they wouldn’t accept that. IS IT ANY WONDER HE COULDN'T SLEEP? The bodyguards recall how Randy would come to the gate trying to crash through and they had to pull their guns on him several times. He also kept saying Michael owed him money and that he would go to the tabloids if he didn’t get his money or if Michael didn’t tour. FTR, Michael thought he could trust Randy to take over his business and finances during the trial. After the trial he found that Randy hadn’t paid the workers, was trying to force him to sell his share of Sony/ATV and a lot of other things. Michael fired Randy and Randy never forgave him for that. Thus the “drug intervention” lie. Randy was also a part of that “Mommy ‘Napping scheme, where he and Janet, Jermaine, and Rebbie were trying to take over Michael’s Will and Money by taking Katherine away from Prince, Paris and Bigi by pretending that a doctor(Janet’s doctor) had ordered rest.

Again, there was NO DRUG INTERVENTION. That was a lie perpetuated by Janet, Randy, Joe and a guy named Leonard who wanted to promote the tour, if Michael agreed to it. Btw Mjfrenzy, use your common sense, why would his family be doing a so-called “drug intervention” and still HARRASING him to tour? How the hell was he healthy enough to tour when they CLAIM he was so addicted to drugs that they had to “intervene”. When it comes to Michael common sense and rational thinking goes out the window for the public and even some fans. It makes me sick how some of you fans believe every shitty piece of information AGAINST Michael without any deductive reasoning. WTF

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Hmmm I see.

But according to the autopsy no signs of drugs were found and in fact they said it was a very healthy body, especially for that age.

Thank you. The media, the haters and even SOME fans want to ignore Michael’s autopsy report; however, they readily accept EVERY OTHER CELEBRITY autopsy report without question. This is the $@#* this man had to go through while he was alive, and the SAME crap from his “fans” and media now that he is no longer here. This is why my love and respect for Michael has grown a HUNDRED times stronger. The bull@#$& that this man had to endure has not happened to any other person, except Jesus. We can’t see the nails; however, Michael was definitely “crucified” while he was here on earth and he is STILL being “crucified” even in death.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Yeah I read about this. In that same article she claimed MJ became different after Thriller, he was no longer the fun, goofing brother and apparently during the filming of Scream the producers wanted them separated or something which to her felt like a competition.

And they also mentioned the tour. She would be the starting act. She claimed he was very stand offish about it. As cool as it could have been to see them perform together again....Michael clearly wasn't interested, wanted to do things solo as he had been used to all these years.

It's very sad to see all this. Those trailers could have been about solely Janet things , but of course all trailers are fully about Michael.


What the hell, I never knew that about Randy. Damn, at least he did support MJ in 2019 when that ridiculous "doc" came out. What kind of rumors and lies has he been spreading in the past?

Why can't they all just be like Taj or Brandi? In full support, acting normal, yeesh.

When did Randy support Michael in 2019 during the child porn mockumentary LN? Did I miss something%? It was JERMAINE, Jackie, Tito and Marlon who supported Michael. Of course, we know that Taj is the most eloquent and BEST supporter. Btw, I don’t recall Randy or Janet saying ANYTHING to support Michael during that bull@#$& from the fake accusers- ROBBERson and SafeCLUCK. ‍

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

When did Randy support Michael in 2019 during the child porn mockumentary LN? Did I miss something%? It was JERMAINE, Jackie, Tito and Marlon who supported Michael. Of course, we know that Taj is the most eloquent and BEST supporter. Btw, I don’t recall Randy or Janet saying ANYTHING to support Michael during that bull@#$& from the fake accusers- ROBBERson and SafeCLUCK. ‍

You are right, I was wrong on that. Honestly all my life I've barely paid any attention to the other Jacksons so I have to admit I probably would have somewhat of a hard time to know who is who. You are VERY right about how Janet didn't say a thing in 2019, or well, not to my knowledge at least. But strangely enough even Paris was very quiet and even showed kindness to Sia that talked horrible shit about Michael. Paris said this was what she learned from her father, killing them with kindness. I guess to each their own, had it been my father or brother I would have ignored anyone like that completely or would have tried to school her on the facts, evidence and the usage of logic and common sense. But again, we all deal differently with things in life.

As for Randy during the trial, holy shit that is some stuff to think about. I did not know this. But with everything I never take it as fact until I know the sources, If one thing has taught me that about researching facts and evidence regarding MJ it's that, also check sources. Where is this information from?

 

[somewhereinthedark]

You are right, I was wrong on that. Honestly all my life I've barely paid any attention to the other Jacksons so I have to admit I probably would have somewhat of a hard time to know who is who. You are VERY right about how Janet didn't say a thing in 2019, or well, not to my knowledge at least. But strangely enough even Paris was very quiet and even showed kindness to Sia that talked horrible shit about Michael. Paris said this was what she learned from her father, killing them with kindness. I guess to each their own, had it been my father or brother I would have ignored anyone like that completely or would have tried to school her on the facts, evidence and the usage of logic and common sense. But again, we all deal differently with things in life.

As for Randy during the trial, holy shit that is some stuff to think about. I did not know this. But with everything I never take it as fact until I know the sources, If one thing has taught me that about researching facts and evidence regarding MJ it's that, also check sources. Where is this information from?

From INSIDERS who were actually there. Btw, he is coproducer of this documentary. I wouldn’t doubt if it was him who released the negativity concerning Michael. It’s his MO to go to tabloids. Btw, anything concerning this documentary has Janet’s full approval. She and Randy work hand in hand. It was Randy who went to the tabloid media and claimed that Janet’s husband Wissam called her a slut and a bitch, after their son was born. He claimed that’s why they divorced. I don’t believe it for a moment. I’ve never heard Janet say that, however, she ALLOWED Randy to say it, and never corrected him.

 

[Kingofpop4ever8000]

Not to mention that really creepy clip of Katherine saying she can’t talk about Michael. Why would they put that in there? I already don’t like Janet as a person although I like her music. I hope I’m wrong. But if this turns out to be another LN, I’m done listening to her music.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Not to mention that really creepy clip of Katherine saying she can’t talk about Michael. Why would they put that in there? I already don’t like Janet as a person although I like her music. I hope I’m wrong. But if this turns out to be another LN, I’m done listening to her music.

I'm not worried that it's another LN. The clip of Katherine...I don't know, to me it seemed she has still difficulty talking about her son, still coping very much with the loss.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

From INSIDERS who were actually there. Btw, he is coproducer of this documentary. I wouldn’t doubt if it was him who released the negativity concerning Michael. It’s his MO to go to tabloids. Btw, anything concerning this documentary has Janet’s full approval. She and Randy work hand in hand. It was Randy who went to the tabloid media and claimed that Janet’s husband Wissam called her a slut and a bitch, after their son was born. He claimed that’s why they divorced. I don’t believe it for a moment. I’ve never heard Janet say that, however, she ALLOWED Randy to say it, and never corrected him.

Are there any links to this? Don't get me wrong, absolutely not calling you a liar but I'd like to see it all too, if possible. There have been so many people in his life and a few turned out to be horrible folks trying to stab him in the back, even ex bodyguards who were proven to be lying on the stand. Who were/are these insiders?

Only thing I saw was that movie Searching for Neverland I think it was? And it showed the gate crashing scene, Michael owing him money etc. At first I thought, damn Mike, pay what you owe. But immediately I realized we don't have the full story here at all. It would make sense he didn't want to meet with him anymore after all that.

 

[Kingofpop4ever8000]

I'm not worried that it's another LN. The clip of Katherine...I don't know, to me it seemed she has still difficulty talking about her son, still coping very much with the loss.

Yes. That’s why I say I hope I’m wrong. I’m still miserable myself about Michael dying like that.

 

[Nite Line]

I'm not worried that it's another LN. The clip of Katherine...I don't know, to me it seemed she has still difficulty talking about her son, still coping very much with the loss.

What was the point of showing a clip of Katherine talking about Michael? This is a documentary about Janet, not Michael. Katherine can talk about Janet but it doesn’t make me happy that Janet is showing her old and weak mother in a state of vulnerability in her documentary talking about someone who isn’t the main subject of the documentary.

 

[Lord Szechenyi]

according to the autopsy no signs of drugs were found and in fact they said it was a very healthy body, especially for that age.

What about the propofol

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

What was the point of showing a clip of Katherine talking about Michael? This is a documentary about Janet, not Michael. Katherine can talk about Janet but it doesn’t make me happy that Janet is showing her old and weak mother in a state of vulnerability in her documentary talking about someone who isn’t the main subject of the documentary.

Oh I don't disagree at all with that. It's something you just don't do, especially not when it's family, it's very sad. I see Janet fans on Twitter playing dumb like "it's her life story, she talks about it in her doc." Fine, so just talk in the doc but putting it in the trailer is just giving the media a free invitation to talk shit about MJ again and it sure happened too. Claiming he bullied her and what not, sigh. And from what I understand is that she talked about the teasing years ago in a book of hers and that all the brothers and sisters did this. Also that MJ apologized because he never intended to truly hurt her. So why bring this up again at all?

She knew saying "guilty by association is what they call it, right?" And the stuff about the nicknames in the trailers would give the media a field day, would give MJ fans enough reason to check her doc and people in general. It's sad. I see MJ fans on Twitter only blaming the media, but Janet at the end of the day is THE reason MJ is being shit talked again.

 

[filmandmusic]

It has now reached Belgian media as well and it is not positive. The article clearly states that Janet to this day feels insecure because of Michael's bullying but more worryingly the article states that Janet said that because of Michael's mistakes (regarding kids) her career suffered. Writing it down like this implies that Janet thinks her brother is guilty.

It remains to be seen if it is just clever (or brutal) copy pasting of the writer of the article, I remain hopeful that it is not what Janet actually said in the doc. If she did imply MJ is guilty then that would be another serious uppercut for Michael and us.

Either way like I said earlier it will never ever be over unless Chandler changes his tune... In the meantime I will remain my pessimistic self about the subject.

PS I have seen the trailer now, it is so disappointing to see how she misuses Michael's name to promote the damn doc. The Katherine clip is also only just there to feed people that even his mother thinks he is guilty. Terrible trailer.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

It has now reached Belgian media as well and it is not positive. The article clearly states that Janet to this day feels insecure because of Michael's bullying but more worryingly the article states that Janet said that because of Michael's mistakes (regarding kids) her career suffered. Writing it down like this implies that Janet thinks her brother is guilty.

It remains to be seen if it is just clever (or brutal) copy pasting of the writer of the article, I remain hopeful that it is not what Janet actually said in the doc. If she did imply MJ is guilty then that would be another serious uppercut for Michael and us.

Either way like I said earlier it will never ever be over unless Chandler changes his tune... In the meantime I will remain my pessimistic self about the subject.

PS I have seen the trailer now, it is so disappointing to see how she misuses Michael's name to promote the damn doc. The Katherine clip is also only just there to feed people that even his mother thinks he is guilty. Terrible trailer.

Yeah those guilty by association bits, we all know better but the media will run with this and change it into their own narrative, as always. I'm sorry Janet that you had a hard time because you are his sister and it's not your fault that Michael was fighting for his life and freedom. I'm also sorry if I'm way more sorry for Michael. Dude was going through a actual nightmare, accusing him of the worst thing you can accuse him of.

At that time when everyone, except the fans thought he was going to get convicted Janet was indeed guilty by association, that's how it works, it's unfortunate but again....I feel WAY more bad for Michael. Has she ever spoken about the trial after the trial or after he passed away?

 

[somewhereinthedark]

What about the propofol

The autopsy mentioned the Propofol that Murray pumped into Michael unmonitored. The Propofol had nothing to do with the other drugs that were NOT in his system. Because Murray was negligent and didn’t monitor Michael, he went into cardiac arrest because Murray didn’t monitor the intravenous drip. I watched that murderer’s trial EVERY SINGLE DAY. it would hsve actually made you physically sick, as it did me and others, to hear what that bastard did to Michael, and how he tried to cover up what he did, I’ve never seen as disgusted as this judge was with Murray.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Oh I don't disagree at all with that. It's something you just don't do, especially not when it's family, it's very sad. I see Janet fans on Twitter playing dumb like "it's her life story, she talks about it in her doc." Fine, so just talk in the doc but putting it in the trailer is just giving the media a free invitation to talk shit about MJ again and it sure happened too. Claiming he bullied her and what not, sigh. And from what I understand is that she talked about the teasing years ago in a book of hers and that all the brothers and sisters did this. Also that MJ apologized because he never intended to truly hurt her. So why bring this up again at all?

She knew saying "guilty by association is what they call it, right?" And the stuff about the nicknames in the trailers would give the media a field day, would give MJ fans enough reason to check her doc and people in general. It's sad. I see MJ fans on Twitter only blaming the media, but Janet at the end of the day is THE reason MJ is being shit talked again.

Exactly and that’s what MJ fans are saying on Twitter. Janet AND Randy knew exactly what they were doing when they allowed those trailers and excerpts to be released. JJ fans are saying she has a RIGHT to say these things. No, the hell she doesn’t. They don’t even want Michael’s name brought up in discussions about her. Now all of a sudden, it’s her right to talk about him, when he’s not here to defend himself? You can bet money she would never have pulled this cowardly crap, if he was alive. Her fans are HYPOCRITICAL as they’ve always been. They want to play both sides when it comes to Michael. Liking her music has crap to do with what she is pulling by throwing her DECEASED Brother under the bus. If the tables were reversed and Janet was dead and Michael pulled this stunt, her fans would be pissing all over themselves with anger. Yet, you have some MJ fans willing to forgive her because they like her music or because she’s pretty. She is playing naive and the victim when she has complete control over this narrative. The bottomline is Michael never used his family or anyone else to promote his music and I dare anyone to say he would have pulled this weak $#@* that she AND Randy are pulling. You can bet they are in this TOGETHER. It is what it is.

 

[Nite Line]

If Janet is gonna focus part of Michael’s allegations in her documentary and use this “guilty by association” then she better make it explicitly clear in her doc that she believes in Michael’s innocence. If she doesn’t do that, then I am done listening to her music.

It’s disappointing that Janet has never really said anything to defend Michael after Leaving Neverland. Janet and Michael were super close once upon a time and Michael absolutely adored her, yet she has never defended him really. Even Jermaine who had beef with Michael defended him and was close to tears in doing so, but Janet couldn’t be bothered to do that. Very disappointing.