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Jermaine Writing Book On Life With MJ *Book To Be Released Sept 13*

I cannot bring myself to watch any of Jermaine's interviews. But thanks for posting. Hopefully someone braver than me can watch and post a synopsis.
 
I am with you on that one. ^^We will find out what he said sooner or later. Seems he was crying, poor thing!!
 
I think the abc preview of the dateline special was edited! The version above is not the same from what I saw on dateline this one misses a question about who killed MJ! On the actual special which is just as edited (as in not specific enough in the questions and answers) it's asked who killed MJ! Jermaine replies "Propofol!" o_O Interviewer says he didn't say what but, who! Jermaine replies "The Doctor!"

But both version have no mention of mj not knowing of jermaine's plans! Surprise, Surprise! NOT! And the rest is the same like The interviewer just says to jermaine "there was a plan" and that if jermaine would have been caught he would have been jailed! He replies "They wouldn't have caught me!"
 
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the problem is that sometimes he makes sense and explain think as it is, like the drugs being there for pain. but other things he talks about makes you go wtf. and the escape plan story gets more and more stupid and if anybody see it as a sign of guilt then they need to ge checked. as i understand the plan was to get him out after the trial yet before the verdict? well it makes no sense even for an guilty man to wait and endure a trial for 5 month and then escape. can't wrap my head around that one.

and he should stop defending joes abusive behavior.
 
That video made me cry :cry: Its so sad and I know Jermaine loved Michael .. regardless

He is the best spokesperson in the family for Michael. He may not want to believe MJ
wanted to hold the family a distance or at bay or he just doesnt want to admit it.
thats hard ..

Did you see Michaels tribute room- Its still there :)
 
and he should stop defending joes abusive behavior.
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Hes not the only one in the jackson family whos been defending joesph abusive ways
 
twinklEE said:
As for Jermaine just because he didn't write the song,it doesn't mean he should be excused, not only did he sing the song but he also released it a day before/after Bow, he did so b/c he expected a reaction.

He isn't innocent in this, those two producers never held a gun onto Jermaine's forehead, forcing him to record the song. Germaine willingly participated. Jermaine sang the song b/c he thought by doing so, he'd finally be able to have the career he was so desperate for.

It serves him right that BoW ended whatever odds were left for JErmaine to be known for more than just being Michael Jackson's attention seeking brother. Also the lyrics of BoW match his own sentiments towards Michael way too much, for him NOT to have had some kind of input as far as the lyrics are concerned.

I HIGHLY doubt Babyface and Reid came up with all of the lyrics themselves WITHOUT Jermaine's input

example:


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Cuz those excerpts just show plain jealousy, and I'm not willing to buy that two randoms producers were able to come up with such lyrics, which at least partially, mirror the depths of Jermaine's ambigiuous feelings towards his beloved little brother.
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I haven't read the book in full context but it didn't read to me like he placed the blame all on them or said they made him do it. He said he sung it and they wrote it. He seemed as if he was trying to justify him doing it at the time.

I highly doubt Babyface and LA Reid needed Jermaines help writing a song (these are two notorious hitmakers.. hence the reason Jermaine worked with them and the reason MJ wanted to. They aren't just producers like quincy Jones but writers also). I think at the time they were but hurt because they got axed from the job and Jermaine because they up and left him to work with someone else who just happened to be his brother.

I also like how MJ was very loyal to Bruce S no matter what. That's amazing
 
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Chapter 17 - Body of Lies

1993 is the year everything changed with schemers, planners, plotters. Summer 1992 a journalist approaches Joy (Wade's mother) and tells he's investigating Michael for being a pedophile. Joy calls and tells it Michael's management.

Michael wasn't street smart , letting random people into his life. May 1992, Michael's car breaks down. Mets Chandler for 5 minutes. They give Michael their phone number. Michael calls them. Press refers them as Michael's "adapted family". Evan is happy about it, trying to find funding to his movie idea, tells the friendship is a wonderful means for Jordie nor worry for the rest of his life.

Michael drifting away from his brothers. Not maintaining communications with them. this time Jermaine isn't leaving messages but sending a lot of letters. No response from Michael.

Chandlers staying at Neverland. June (Jordie's mother) has no issues. Michael stay at their house with Evan. Evan asks Michel to build a new wing on his property Michael doesn't do it. Michael traveling with Jordie, June and Lily, buying them expensive gifts. Evan feeling left out, angry. June's new husband record phone call of Evan not being happy. Evan says he will ask for $20M for his screenplays if Michael refuse he would go public with allegations. August 1993, he tells this to Michael. Michael refuses. Evan tells Michael he would go along with his plan and he did. Media pays attention to his claims and the tape recording of Evan goes mainly unmentioned.

Chandler files a $30M civil lawsuit, criminal investigations start. Neverland, Michael's condo and Hayvenhurst gets searched. Body search and photographing of his genetalia.

Media asking "what is a grown man doing in bed with children?" .Explains bunk beds, crammed sleeping arrangements as kids, not being sexual, girls sleeping over as well, also parents. How Jermaine's kids and Tito's kids used to follow Michel around like ducks. June Chandler calling Michael "Peter Pan" that people wants to be around 24/7.

Announcement of The Jackson Family Honors show. Katherine talks with Michael and they all agree that the show must go on. Bill Bray tells them Michael was "sick to the stomach but keeping strong". After the announcement they make plans to go to Taiwan to join Michael. Elizabeth Taylor was already there. Jacksons see Bob Jones. Jermaine says Bob Jones was part of barrier to their direct communication with Michael. Bob tells them it's not a good time , Michael sleeping. Jermaine gets angry passes him and barges into Michael's room.

They find Michael with an IV. There's a doctor. They are told that Michael collapsed before the concert, concert cancelled and he's dehydrated. He looks thin and stressed. Jermaine says he thinks he didn't eat or sleep for a week.

Latoya press announcement. Plug in for her book. Not Jermaine's story to tell, she told it in her book. The only thing Jermaine says Michael and the family forgave her.

2 months later rehab. Dependendcy to Demerol. Jermaine doesn't know much about Michael's rehab stay. Michael returns to US. Investigation and Grand Jury going on. Michael personally want to go through a criminal trial. However as criminal charges wasn't brought the civil case was to start. They thought if the civil trial happened, he wouldn't have a fair criminal trial so they settled. Insurers also had a role in the decision. Settlement : no admission of guilt, can testify in future criminal trial, cannot talk to media.

DA Sneddon interview 150 witnesses, convey 2 grand juries and say there's no case. but he doesn't close the case, keeps it open for future.

1995 Margaret receives a phonecall about a secret video of Michael and Jeremy in shower and that they''ll be printing a story saying that Michael paid them to keep silent. Their attorneys stop it but Diana Dimond on Hard Copy runs with the story. LAPD announces there's no such tape. Victor Gutierrez was the writer that created this story. Michael sues for defamation and wins.

1993 behind Michael. Michael refuses to change his life and his beliefs.

Jackson Family Honors. They wanted Oprah to host it. She declines.

"We were surprised to hear her decline, saying she didn’t think she would be a good host, but she wished us the best of luck. It was a shame—we knew how much she loved Michael—but it didn’t detract from the occasion."

Michael is happy in 1994 because he also found his true counterpart in a woman "someone who had had a restrictive childhood, wasn’t impressed by his fame, had experienced living under a spotlight and didn’t need him for his money. Someone who absolutely understood his world and needed nothing from him but love." Lisa Marie Presley

Chapter 18 - Love, Chess and Destiny

Paths passing with Lisa Marie for a long time. 1974 first time Jacksons met Elvis. Lisa Marie attended J5 concert and was a fan. 1992 Brett Livingstone Strong bring Michael and Lisa together at dinner. Friendship forms. Phonecalls between them begin.

"she impressed him with her no-nonsense, straightforward, hard advice. With so many voices around him, she was a refreshing sounding-board. She took no bullshit, and when she saw it around him, she made her feelings about certain people very clear. That kind of frankness always made my brother chuckle. There were no show-business airs and graces, and she was feminine, fine-looking and strong. I’d say the attraction was obvious."

Quiet wedding. No one from the family knew. After the ceremony Michael calls Katherine and tells her that he's married. Katherine's sounded like a black girl bit here. Jermaine only saw rare glimpses of Michael's marriage. Jermaine says they weren't "faking it" as media claims. They always wanted to be together. Janet and Rebbie hang with Lisa Marie and told that she was madly in love. Now Michael has Lisa Marie in his life, Jermaine stops trying to communicate with him because he knew Michael was okay.

ATV deal, merger with Sony. "With the help of attorney John Branca, he had out-maneuvered Hollywood to guarantee his future."

Friction in Michael's marriage. Phonecalls between Janet, Rebbie, Katherine. Jermaine doesn't know the details. Problems : Michael working, being away, being an absent husband and Lisa Marie not wanting it. Michael looking after Joe's brother's grandkids - not emotionally there for Lisa. Scientology. Michael feeling Lisa is trying to tie him down, not allowing his creative process. Lisa not giving him kids. He became convinced that she broke a pact they made. Michael shuts down. Lisa ran out of patience files for divorce.

"The saddest thing about this whole break down is that there was genuine love and friendship between them, but all that got eclipsed and scarred within some power-struggle. At the end of the day, it came down to two people with different temperaments and different outlooks, but I had always wished for a compromise that never happened."

Lisa tries to see if there's any way back. Michel build high walls.

Neverland logo , dreamworks logo. Michael believed he would be part of Dreamworks while it was set up. Jermaine doesn't know why Michael wasn't a part of Dreamworks. Voodoo spell story.

Debbie

"when a motherly blonde admirer offered to bear him children, it was “an offer from God” that he wasn’t going to ignore."

"Debbie Rowe was not a stranger to Michael. She was the nurse at the Beverly Hills clinic of his dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein, who treated his vitiligo. Because of the intimacy of his treatment, Michael knew her to be trustworthy and discreet. When I heard Debbie was a nurse, I knew she would be soft, gentle and spoiling; someone who knew how to catch flies with sugar, not vinegar. Someone who was happy to roll along with Michael’s wishes. This was a chance for him to have children entirely on his terms: with 100 percent custody and a mother prepared to waive her parental rights. Looking back, and understanding how important fatherhood was to him, I don’t see what other choice he had when there was a volunteer willing to make his dream come true at a time when he was standing in the rubble of his marriage in an already-isolated world, not knowing when—or if—his next ideal “mate” would come along. Besides, it was a practical procedure rooted in love—Michael’s love for children. I viewed this arrangement as a blessing because of the devotion these young souls would be born into."

Grace became nanny. Media question his paternity. Veils idea was Debbie's against kidnapping. Michael maintained it in the future for privacy.

"Why anyone thought my brother was incapable of fathering his own children was beyond me, as was the idea he’d use a donor when it was his personal legacy that mattered to him. I think it’s fair to say that Debbie had a dominant gene (Prince had white-blond hair when he was born) but when I look into that kid’s eyes or catch his profile from the side, his similarity to Michael as a boy is obvious. But, to nail the myth once and for all, Michael has passed on his vitiligo to Prince. My brother’s paternity is irrefutable when Prince removes his shirt. What really matters, though, is that my niece and nephews know without a shadow of doubt that Michael was their biological father and they were born out of love."

Plastic surgery. Jermaine doesn't know the extent but obviously his looks changed. Jermaine thinks it was due to body dysmorphia. Jermaine blames the doctors that enabled Michel to go too far. He couldn't talk with Michael and say stop you are handsome because it was a sensitive subject. "The saddest thing was that Michael was never happy with his final look."

India visit. Nelson Mandela. Charlie Chaplin's house."“Let’s Go To Mumbai City,” song Jermaine did.

to be continued

sorry I was too tired last night to read. 4 more chapter. Next chapter is about 2001
 
I appreciate Oprah's honesty about not being a good host. By that time she would have been convinced that Michael was a child molester and would not have wanted to be anywhere near him. And her opinion of the family also became clear years later. So thanks, Oprah for giving it a pass!

Sad though that some members of the Jackson family were still chasing Oprah years later, wanting to stay in touch and be friends ... after she said your family was dysfunctional and nothing to aspire to being ...

On the matter of Scientology - if Michael had become a Scientologist my family would have had to hog-tie to my bed to prevent from finding him and kidnapping him!
 
TheChosenOne said:
I appreciate Oprah's honesty about not being a good host. By that time she would have been convinced that Michael was a child molester and would not have wanted to be anywhere near him. And her opinion of the family also became clear years later. So thanks, Oprah for giving it a pass!

Sad though that some members of the Jackson family were still chasing Oprah years later, wanting to stay in touch and be friends ... after she said your family was dysfunctional and nothing to aspire to being ...

On the matter of Scientology - if Michael had become a Scientologist my family would have had to hog-tie to my bed to prevent from finding him and kidnapping him!
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I can't believe that Jermaine believes that Oprah loves Michael, and did not see the reason why she declined. Here is a woman who can read and do investigative work and listens to the media to form her views. What a shame.

I thought Lisa and Michael were introduced at a Trump party. Then I heard she kept calling him all the time.

Jermaine should have said on the TV interview that he wanted to make it clear that Michael did not know of the plan.
 
^^^ I also believe that Quincy Jones would have talked to Oprah about Michael. And we know his views on certain matters! And the whole Hollywood community is a bunch of gossips amongst themselves, so Oprah would have been hearing alot of things on the grapevine.

Either way, Oprah is not fan of either Michael or the Jackson family.
 
Only good thing about this crap (Jermaine's book)...at least he made it crystal clear..the kids are MJ's. Unlike Latoya
 
You can tell Jermaine likes Lisa and Karen. He gave them glowing reviews.

About the father issue, I think the only thing that will convince people is the vitiligo on Prince. When it comes to Michael people will believe the negative until they see the physical evidence, unfortunately. Look at how many times people say that there was a tape about the extortion, and no one accepts it. Until the tape is heard throughout media land and TV, they will still say, "but why did he pay this shows he was guilty." Look at how many times people have explained why the money was paid and still people like Simmons still do not believe.
 
"Why anyone thought my brother was incapable of fathering his own children was beyond me, as was the idea he’d use a donor when it was his personal legacy that mattered to him. I think it’s fair to say that Debbie had a dominant gene (Prince had white-blond hair when he was born) but when I look into that kid’s eyes or catch his profile from the side, his similarity to Michael as a boy is obvious. But, to nail the myth once and for all, Michael has passed on his vitiligo to Prince. My brother’s paternity is irrefutable when Prince removes his shirt. What really matters, though, is that my niece and nephews know without a shadow of doubt that Michael was their biological father and they were born out of love.
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This is something I've always given Jermaine credit for and will continue to do so, inspite of disliking him, I'm thankful for that cuz I know that some of Michael's other crazy jealous siblings refuse to acknowledge this despite of having grandchildren who have similar features to those of Michael's kids.
 
It's quite sad to read that they are pushing MJ to do the Jackson family honor when he was in struggle. I am from Taiwan but I can't remember he canceled the show in 93. If I remembered correctly, he canceled the show in Singapore before he came to Taiwan. Anyway, it's not a big point. It always made me so angry to read Even Chandler and Diana Diamond.

Over all, Jermaine's book for now is not so impressed (Nothing important new) but it's not as bad as Toya's
 
twinklEE said:
This is something I've always given Jermaine credit for and will continue to do so, inspite of disliking him, I'm thankful for that cuz I know that some of Michael's other crazy jealous siblings refuse to acknowledge this despite of having grandchildren who have similar features to those of Michael's kids.
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yes I have to agree with you on this. The ONLY thing that I didn't like was that he spread Prince's business around by saying that he too had virtiligo. THAT was no one's business. Prince has NOTHING to prove to anyone just like Michael didn't. With some people they could be standing right there when a dna test was performed and they would STILL deny the truth. They really dont owe anyone anything.
 
ivy said:
Chapter 17 - Body of Lies

1993 is the year everything changed with schemers, planners, plotters. Summer 1992 a journalist approaches Joy (Wade's mother) and tells he's investigating Michael for being a pedophile. Joy calls and tells it Michael's management.
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That journalist was Victor Gutierrez. Few people realize the whole allegations BS originates from him and he was pulling the strings from behind the curtains. VG is a supporter of NAMBLA (he even thanks them in his book!) and pedophiles wanted to use Michael as their poster boy, so they needed to paint him a pedophile. VG was "working" on it since 1986! He approached Michael's employees (many of the prosecution's witnesses in 2005 had some kind of contact with VG...) and other kids and their parents (for example the Robsons) before he found Evan Chandler with his sick mind. The rest is history.
 
missred07 said:
It's quite sad to read that they are pushing MJ to do the Jackson family honor when he was in struggle. I am from Taiwan but I can't remember he canceled the show in 93. If I remembered correctly, he canceled the show in Singapore before he came to Taiwan. Anyway, it's not a big point.
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actually that's what Jermaine says too. That Elizabeth was with him at Singapore and Michael collapsed and cancelled that show. Jacksons meet with Michael in Taiwan and see him being treated for dehydration before going on stage in Taiwan.

Misunderstanding is probably due to my shortening.
 
ivy said:
actually that's what Jermaine says too. That Elizabeth was with him at Singapore and Michael collapsed and cancelled that show. Jacksons meet with Michael in Taiwan and see him being treated for dehydration before going on stage in Taiwan.

Misunderstanding is probably due to my shortening.
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Oh thanks for explanation.
BTW, I also remembered that the promoter said in interview in 09 that he feel it's odd that MJ shut his family down.
He said that MJ asked his family to make appointment to see him and the promoter is quite surprised for this request.
 
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Prince's vitiligo was already long ago made the world's business by paparazzi. Jermaine didn't reveal any of Prince's private business.

Those of us working to build the world's good opinion of Michael in order to ensure his art and good works live on, including demonstrating Michael was no liar -- whether about his innocence, his pride in his race, or paternity -- aren't doing this because we think he OWES anybody.
 
Been tuning into jermaine's media blitz in the uk. I agree with the poster upthread about the itv tv prog, jj was pretty poor - inarticulate and confusing, the interviewrs were having to supply contexts to his rambling answers. Maybe he was nervous, but i was surprised he wasn;t better as he's had so much media experience.

In the radio 4 prog, he really tried his best to defend mj against all the negative stories but i just think his arguments are poor. Can somene not tweet him and tell him to stop defending mj against the JChandler allegations by saying JC retracted them after mj died. That was an internet hoax and has been debunked (unless someone knows different?). there are plently of good points to make, eg JC refusing to testify in court and saying mj circumcised etc. And the 94 settlement was not paid by MJ to 'make the allegations go away', it just sounds like a celebrity buying justice. It was paid to settle the CIVIL case of negligence leaving the chandlers free to pursue justice in a criminal case whichof course they didn't do once they got the money. Why didn't jj prepare for these inevitable questions by asking tmez or someone for ideas for answers.

Jermaine is still enthusiastically chatting about that damned escape plan, even congratulating the interviewer for correctly saying it was to be implemented during the trial not at the end. The fact he is more concerened with defending the feasability of his plan than be worried about the damaging legal, ethical and pr ramifications for mj of this story, just shows he desperately needs the services of a good pr person/lawyer for these media appearances. I just feel he's out of his depth and isn't a particularly good advocate for mj. However i don't doubt he is sincere in wanting to defend mj and the emotion he showed when talking about the trial was genuine i'm sure. I just wish the jacksons could pretend tmez was a long-lost cousin and rope him in to do these media appearance instead, as i feel it's a wasted opportunity.
 
@ Ivy

Did Jermaine elaborate more on this part?

Summer 1992 a journalist approaches Joy (Wade's mother) and tells he's investigating Michael for being a pedophile. Joy calls and tells it Michael's management.
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Bonnie Blue said:
Been tuning into jermaine's media blitz in the uk. I agree with the poster upthread about the itv tv prog, jj was pretty poor - inarticulate and confusing, the interviewrs were having to supply contexts to his rambling answers. Maybe he was nervous, but i was surprised he wasn;t better as he's had so much media experience.

In the radio 4 prog, he really tried his best to defend mj against all the negative stories but i just think his arguments are poor. Can somene not tweet him and tell him to stop defending mj against the JChandler allegations by saying JC retracted them after mj died. That was an internet hoax and has been debunked (unless someone knows different?). there are plently of good points to make, eg JC refusing to testify in court and saying mj circumcised etc. And the 94 settlement was not paid by MJ to 'make the allegations go away', it just sounds like a celebrity buying justice. It was paid to settle the CIVIL case of negligence leaving the chandlers free to pursue justice in a criminal case whichof course they didn't do once they got the money. Why didn't jj prepare for these inevitable questions by asking tmez or someone for ideas for answers.

Jermaine is still enthusiastically chatting about that damned escape plan, even congratulating the interviewer for correctly saying it was to be implemented during the trial not at the end. The fact he is more concerened with defending the feasability of his plan than be worried about the damaging legal, ethical and pr ramifications for mj of this story, just shows he desperately needs the services of a good pr person/lawyer for these media appearances. I just feel he's out of his depth and isn't a particularly good advocate for mj. However i don't doubt he is sincere in wanting to defend mj and the emotion he showed when talking about the trial was genuine i'm sure. I just wish the jacksons could pretend tmez was a long-lost cousin and rope him in to do these media appearance instead, as i feel it's a wasted opportunity.
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Hi, can i ask something? Do all those interviewers who have hosted Jermain up until now only ask him about the controversial things in Michael's life, ie. allegations, skin color etc? Is anyone asking about his music, about his art? Unfortunatelly were i live i can't see these interviews.
 
Bonnie Blue said:
Jermaine is still enthusiastically chatting about that damned escape plan, even congratulating the interviewer for correctly saying it was to be implemented during the trial not at the end. The fact he is more concerened with defending the feasability of his plan than be worried about the damaging legal, ethical and pr ramifications for mj of this story, just shows he desperately needs the services of a good pr person/lawyer for these media appearances.
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How is that any better? Michael was asked to turn in his passport and ordered not to leave the country. It would STILL be obstruction of justice .
 
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