Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

[goldiee]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

Oh yeah, makes sense.

Homegirl is gonna have to come up with some SOLID dates now, and not just beat around the bush like she has done in previous interviews. Tyler Perry ain't gonna be able to help her this time around, i.e. her interview with Oprah.

Mrs. Jackson doesn't want to talk to AEG and I'm sure the Jackson brothers' (and their offspring) that Michael has financially supported over the years don't want to talk to AEG either.

AEG ain't playin!

Personally, I would like to see her discredited. Every interview she gets away with ducking and dodging. Now her sneaky behind gets to answer some real questions under oath with no PR people around to deflect.

 

[jaydom7]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

Personally, I would like to see her discredited. Every interview she gets away with ducking and dodging. Now her sneaky behind gets to answer some real questions under oath with no PR people around to deflect.

I totally agree,, Ms Janet needs to be put under oath without all the shy talking and giggling and laughing. I want to know when was her supposed intervention ( several times) she claimed to Oprah and Robin Roberts etc.. And why if she felt her brother had a problem was she trying to get him to tour in 2007-2008 with the help of Leonard Rowe for the Jackson family concert? She won't be able to duck and dodge this time.

 

[StellaJackson]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

I totally agree,, Ms Janet needs to be put under oath without all the shy talking and giggling and laughing. I want to know when was her supposed intervention ( several times) she claimed to Oprah and Robin Roberts etc.. And why if she felt her brother had a problem was she trying to get him to tour in 2007-2008 with the help of Leonard Rowe for the Jackson family concert? She won't be able to duck and dodge this time.

I think the family probably did attempt interventions at times. Sometimes it best to either say the whole story or nothing at all. But if they tried to help and Michael denied he had a problem then there is not much more they could do. I didn't know about an attempt to get Michael to tour in 07/08, do you have a source for that?

 

[ivy]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

A question ivy. you wrote the bit about a summary deposition above. Am i reading it wrong but do you mean a summary judgement? if the jacksons keep stalling. can u explain the wording. thanks

what we are waiting for now is the April 24 hearing. At that hearing the judge will listen to the arguments about motion to compel Katherine to be deposed and answer questions & document request.

There are 3 possibilities.

1- Katherine sits for a deposition, sends her answers and documents before April 24. The hearing and motion becomes moot.
- Katherine doesn't sit for the deposition or does not send her answers and documents. The hearing happens.
2a---- Judge grants AEG's motion and forces Katherine to respond in a certain time period.
2b ---- Judge denies AEG's motion and AEG has to go on with whatever they got.

May 2012 is mentioned as the deadline for summary judgement. In the documents AEG mentions they cannot wait for discovery for any longer due to the May 2012 deadline for summary judgement. The email that KJ's lawyers wrote also mention that AEG summary judgement.

It seems like unless Katherine gives satisfactory explanation of her claims, in May AEG would ask for a summary judgement - kinda like a pretrial dismissal - arguing there's no factual base to the claims and the lawsuit is meritless.

 

[windy09]

I'm still catching up on the updates for this thread. Thank you Ivy for summarizing the updates for us. I will say that for all the statements made about alleged interventions and attempts to help we do not see a clear answer and I expect that we wouldn't until now if all of the family is required to testify under oath. I just wish someone had the integrity to speak the truth and for once put Michael's best interest before their own. Ooooops was that my out-loud voice?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

what we are waiting for now is the April 24 hearing. At that hearing the judge will listen to the arguments about motion to compel Katherine to be deposed and answer questions & document request.

There are 3 possibilities.

1- Katherine sits for a deposition, sends her answers and documents before April 24. The hearing and motion becomes moot.
- Katherine doesn't sit for the deposition or does not send her answers and documents. The hearing happens.
2a---- Judge grants AEG's motion and forces Katherine to respond in a certain time period.
2b ---- Judge denies AEG's motion and AEG has to go on with whatever they got.

May 2012 is mentioned as the deadline for summary judgement. In the documents AEG mentions they cannot wait for discovery for any longer due to the May 2012 deadline for summary judgement. The email that KJ's lawyers wrote also mention that AEG summary judgement.

It seems like unless Katherine gives satisfactory explanation of her claims, in May AEG would ask for a summary judgement - kinda like a pretrial dismissal - arguing there's no factual base to the claims and the lawsuit is meritless.

thanks ivy. next couple of months are gonne be intresting.

what im also wondering is dont all the intervention claims actually help aeg's case? ie they can say dont blame us for causing this cause according to u (the jacksons) mj already had problems

 

[layla2]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

I think the family probably did attempt interventions at times. Sometimes it best to either say the whole story or nothing at all. But if they tried to help and Michael denied he had a problem then there is not much more they could do. I didn't know about an attempt to get Michael to tour in 07/08, do you have a source for that?

There were no interventions. Over the last couple of years it has become quite evident that MJ's siblings are quite selfish and only interested in publicity for them selves and selling the latest products they are endorsing.DO you honestly believe Janet, Tito et el would set aside time to stage an intervention?Really?

 

[LastTear]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

It just all makes me so sad... we all need unconditional love. I can't help but worry about the strain this lawsuit will have on KJ, yes I know she brought it about so I shouldn't feel like that, but I do, I can't help it, regardless of many, many actions that I disagree strongly with, I still find myself feeling concern..... Despite the fact that I detest and am still really livid that this lawsuit was chosen over and above gagging CM for life.

 

[Bubs]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

I didn't know about an attempt to get Michael to tour in 07/08, do you have a source for that?

I don't know if Jaydom meant either of these times, but Joe wrote in his book that he tried to get Michael to tour with his brothers, that was during the trial 2005 ( MJ was in the hospital that time, if I remember correctly), the 2008 concert was The Jackson family reunion thingy (AllGood Entertainment). Negotiations for reunion tour started 2008.

Also found this from 2007
February 17 :
Janet, Rebbie, Jermaine, Marlon, Randy, Jackie & Leonard Rowe visit Michael at his Las Vegas home and ask him to reunite with The Jacksons and tour America which he refuses...

 

[Bubs]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

what we are waiting for now is the April 24 hearing. At that hearing the judge will listen to the arguments about motion to compel Katherine to be deposed and answer questions & document request.

There are 3 possibilities.

1- Katherine sits for a deposition, sends her answers and documents before April 24. The hearing and motion becomes moot.
- Katherine doesn't sit for the deposition or does not send her answers and documents. The hearing happens.
2a---- Judge grants AEG's motion and forces Katherine to respond in a certain time period.
2b ---- Judge denies AEG's motion and AEG has to go on with whatever they got.

May 2012 is mentioned as the deadline for summary judgement. In the documents AEG mentions they cannot wait for discovery for any longer due to the May 2012 deadline for summary judgement. The email that KJ's lawyers wrote also mention that AEG summary judgement.

It seems like unless Katherine gives satisfactory explanation of her claims, in May AEG would ask for a summary judgement - kinda like a pretrial dismissal - arguing there's no factual base to the claims and the lawsuit is meritless.

Thanks Ivy for your explanation. I think the judge is going with 1a and 2a, other options doesn't make any sense (I'm trying to think like judge in this case and thats what I would do).
About that summary judgement deadline, AEG is waiting for nothing as Jackson's doesn't seem to have much, if they (Jacksons) have to ask AEG to provide all the evidence that the Jackson's want to use against themselves (AEG). :bugeyed

If they find out that there weren't factual base to the claims and the lawsuit is dismissed, they will sue Jackson's (Katherine).
Troubles seem to be on horizon for some of them.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

There were no interventions. Over the last couple of years it has become quite evident that MJ's siblings are quite selfish and only interested in publicity for them selves and selling the latest products they are endorsing.DO you honestly believe Janet, Tito et el would set aside time to stage an intervention?Really?

some will defend the jacksons excuses for why mj wanted nothing to do with them regardless. the truth is harder to swallow. not sure how u can do interventions when u admit u hadnt seen him for years. i guess randy told them lol. tito claimed of one happening at the ranch so that was before 2003. what that has to do with what murray dif is beyond me. even bain and security who sold mj out said the family was full of ish and it never happened. at the end of the day the family need a reason to make them feel better as why mj didnt want them around. and thats there excuse. just like jermaine in london in march 07 looking for mj and asking us where mj was staying cause in his words they were supp to be having dinner!! did we tell him. did we chuff

 

[Bubs]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

not sure how u can do interventions when u admit u hadnt seen him for years. i guess randy told them lol. tito claimed of one happening at the ranch so that was before 2003.

Tito must be lying then. Their statement was released Sep 2007.
"We categorically deny ever planning, participating in or having knowledge of any kind of intervention, whatsoever. We strongly believe that these 'sources' and others, no matter who they are, are making these defamatory, inaccurate, and untrue claims for monetary reasons. It is time for these unfair and hurtful rumors, for profit, to end."

The letter undersigned by Katherine Jackson, Tito, Jackie, Marlon and Jermaine says that reports about Michael's fight against his addiction to pills and booze are unfounded.

So if any interventions (imaginary or real) were staged, it must have happened after 2007.
All that info is available in the web, and I have no doubt AEG staff will find them and use them against Jacksons if needed.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

Thats what happens when u lie so many times u lose track of what u said. So that brings us back to randy crashing into mjs gates around 08 with his biz proposition according to security and having security pulling out guns as they didnt know who he was. this is the time that even bain denies the family were doing interventionss all the famikies talk comes from that

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

No EW. You are wrong it was not Randy it was Rebbie or maybe it was Janet or maybe it was Joe. Oh well it someone named Jackson maybe Andrew Jackson

 

[LastTear]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

I think the family probably did attempt interventions at times. Sometimes it best to either say the whole story or nothing at all. But if they tried to help and Michael denied he had a problem then there is not much more they could do. I didn't know about an attempt to get Michael to tour in 07/08, do you have a source for that?

Michael himself issued a statement in 2007 stating that he had no plans to tour with his family. Also that same year his family sign that statement saying that there has never been any intervention.

 

[LastTear]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

No EW. You are wrong it was not Randy it was Rebbie or maybe it was Janet or maybe it was Joe. Oh well it someone named Jackson maybe Andrew Jackson

I always thought it was Randy who said he crashed the gates.. Tito was the one in the helicopter, right?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

Or maybe a hot air ballon. yeah it was randy at the gates according to security

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

But Rebbie said it was her. OMG I hope she was not lying... Nah

 

[twinklEE]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

yeah it was randy

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

But Rebbie said it was her. OMG I hope she was not lying... Nah

See and therein lies their biggest problem, i.e. interviews. LOL!

In the very beginning, when interest in them was really high, they ran around running their mouth's to anybody who looked at them twice. Now all of those spoken and/or written words are gonna come back and bit each of them on the butt. (Oh and that "could" also include any Twitter rants, that "some" of them are so famous for.)

Reminds me of, I believe it was Joe Jackson's lawsuit against The Murderer Murray, wherein Joe was being interviewed with Leonard Rowe, in another country, I can't remember which one. Anyway Joe is quoted as saying that "Michael did not support him," and Murray's attorney FOUND that quote and added to his motion.

I'm sure AEG's attorneys have someone on payroll who is assigned to do nothing else but review ALL Jackson family related interviews, whether they be written in a magazine article, or spoken during a television interview.

Like I said yesterday, AEG ain't playing! They want to clear their name and in the process the Jackson family will be exposed for who they really are, in my opinion.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

But Rebbie said it was her. OMG I hope she was not lying... Nah

LOL. whoops

 

[Memefan]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

Still doesn't make sense. Siblings are not the father's of their siblings. So there is nothing strange with the family not calling up.




Aha... yeah, right! Geez. Quite to the contrary. One could argue that if Michael had kept closer to his family, all the leeches would have had a much harder time creeping up to him.

The family was among the leeching mob. They were probably his very first encounter with leeching...so what good would have come out of him remaining close to them?

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

The family was among the leeches.

Good one Memefan and very true!

There's a reason the dear sweet man kept away from his family and instead latched on to family's like The Cascios. He appeared to be looking for "something" he couldn't get from his own family.

 

[jaydom7]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

I do remember Rebbie saying that.. she was either on Good Morning America or somewhere.. so are they saying that both she and Randy crashed MJ's gates? were their cars totaled out after the crash? :busted:where is the insurance estimate? where is MJ's security to testify that both Rebbie and Randy crashed the gate in Las Vegas? While they were there they should've been searching for Conrad Murray since he was MJ's murderer..

 

[Bubs]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

It was Randy alright
"There was another occasion when Randy came to the house and crashed the security gate with his vehicle and came inside. And at the time, I didn't know who he was and I drew my weapon on him and the first thing out of his mouth was 'Get that thing out of my face or I'll call the press,'" Whitfield said, who said he put away his weapon when he realized it was Randy.

Whitfield said Jackson was "not happy" and refused to see Randy.

Taunya Zilkie, Randy Jackson's public relations representative, says she was with him that day. She told ABC News that she and Jackson were at the Las Vegas house that day but never made it on to the property. And Zilkie denied that a gun was pulled.

Zilkie said ABC News Randy Jackson went to Jackson's home that day for an "intervention" but was refused entry into the house.

As Ivy already said, this must be the reason why they want to hear Taunua Z, and they want to hear about intervention.
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I'm trying really hard to make some sort on timeline when these interventions happened if they did. First of, Jackson issued that statement (Sep 2007) that they never tried anything.

Then the bodyguards says the following:
The three men said they were exposed to personal and very distressing parts of Jackson's life, such as a family intervention in 2007 for Jackson's alleged drug abuse.
Source:http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/MichaelJa...amily-finances/story?id=10052695#.T5FhGu3rGLU

I think I leave to AEG to find out in the court all about the discrepancies

 

[jaydom7]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

I also can't wait until they get that lying and giggling Janet Jackson under oath.. Will she reiterate the story she told Oprah or will she be truthful and admit she had not seen or talked to Michael for years until May 2009 for the anniversary party? and if that's the case why didn't she intervene back in May 2009?

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

I do remember Rebbie saying that.. she was either on Good Morning America or somewhere.. so are they saying that both she and Randy crashed MJ's gates? were their cars totaled out after the crash? :busted:where is the insurance estimate? where is MJ's security to testify that both Rebbie and Randy crashed the gate in Las Vegas? While they were there they should've been searching for Conrad Murray since he was MJ's murderer..

Busted is right?

Reminds me of Jermaine saying "Michael didn't have a cell phone," as a way of explaining why he had no contact with Michael.

Then comes Rebbie SELLING a cell phone case, "claiming" it belonged to Michael. If I'm not mistaken I "think" she even signed a letter of authentication. So which is it - cell phone or NO cell phone?

 

[Bubs]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

Sigh, seemingly it was both Randy and Rebbie who crashed the gate.
"He was in denial" about his drug abuse, Rebbie Jackson told the AP. "One thing I want to make clear. I'm sure the public have heard it, but we very much the family, we tried very hard, there were several interventions. Several."

Rebbie Jackson said that once she even drove her car right through the gates surrounding Jackson's house in an attempt to get to him.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/michael-ja...g-intervention/story?id=14857323#.T5FpJO3rGLU

 

[Memefan]

It was Randy alright
"There was another occasion when Randy came to the house and crashed the security gate with his vehicle and came inside. And at the time, I didn't know who he was and I drew my weapon on him and the first thing out of his mouth was 'Get that thing out of my face or I'll call the press,'" Whitfield said, who said he put away his weapon when he realized it was Randy.

Whitfield said Jackson was "not happy" and refused to see Randy.

Taunya Zilkie, Randy Jackson's public relations representative, says she was with him that day. She told ABC News that she and Jackson were at the Las Vegas house that day but never made it on to the property. And Zilkie denied that a gun was pulled.

Zilkie said ABC News Randy Jackson went to Jackson's home that day for an "intervention" but was refused entry into the house.

As Ivy already said, this must be the reason why they want to hear Taunua Z, and they want to hear about intervention.
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I'm trying really hard to make some sort on timeline when these interventions happened if they did. First of, Jackson issued that statement (Sep 2007) that they never tried anything.

Then the bodyguards says the following:
The three men said they were exposed to personal and very distressing parts of Jackson's life, such as a family intervention in 2007 for Jackson's alleged drug abuse.
Source:http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/MichaelJa...amily-finances/story?id=10052695#.T5FhGu3rGLU

I think I leave to AEG to find out in the court all about the discrepancies

Where were the intervention specialists? A PR rep doesn't count. Randy, who himself has a history with drugs, initiating an intervention is laughable ..when MJ couldn't stand the sight of him after his conniving ass tried to ruin the poor man. You need to have a trusting relationship with the person.

But the more common form involves a structured group conversation undertaken under the supervision of a counselor, therapist, or other appropriate professional. Though an informal one-on-one intervention may be done simply to get the addicted individual to realize that a friend or family member is concerned, a formal group intervention is almost always undertaken with the purpose of convincing the person to get help immediately.

Most experts advise the following when planning a formal intervention:

• Participants – Keep the intervention group to about four to six people who are close to the addicted individual. Everyone who participates should be an adult – this is one family gathering that should not include children.
• Guidance – An intervention can be a difficult, demanding, and emotional experience. Including a licensed professional in the process will help keep the discussion focused and productive, as well as provide for an impartial mediator to help resolve any disputes.
• Preparation – All participants (except, of course, the addicted individual) should meet before the intervention to discuss the purpose of the gathering, to coordinate their activities, and to prepare for anticipated resistance from the person with whom they will be intervening. If necessary, the participants should meet multiple times to rehearse expected scenarios and discuss the process until all parties are confident of their roles.
• Consequences – In addition to preparing for resistance from the subject of the intervention, interveners must decide what consequences they will establish – and can enforce – if the addicted individual fails to agree to enter treatment. Consequences can include ending a personal relationship, filing legal papers, or dissolving a professional partnership.
• Treatment – Since the goal of the intervention is to get the addicted individual into immediate treatment, participants must plan all the steps necessary to make this happen. For example, they need to discuss intake and payment plans with the hospital or facility in advance of the intervention, have a bag packed with some of the person's clothes and personal items, and know who will transport the subject of the intervention to the facility.

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date set Sept. 10, 2012

Sigh, seemingly it was both Randy and Rebbie who crashed the gate.
"He was in denial" about his drug abuse, Rebbie Jackson told the AP. "One thing I want to make clear. I'm sure the public have heard it, but we very much the family, we tried very hard, there were several interventions. Several."

Rebbie PLEASE!

She talking about "several."

In my opinion, the ONLY several, most likely is the SEVERAL times they BEGGED Michael to join the family on stage, so that they could ALL perform in some type of Jackson Family Reunion. With All Good Entertainment and BEFORE All Good Entertainment ever came on the scene. In my further opinion, this BEGGING was long term and everytime he said no, they just BEGGED harder, i.e. "Michael the family NEEDS you."

Who the heck does she think she's fooling!