Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

[marebear]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date delayed to April 2, 2013

Why couldn't Janet help her mother? She has done well for herself and didn't have the pressures and problems as Michael did. That should not have been all on Michael. She could have stepped up and helped out. It becomes clear and clear why Michael made his will the way he did.

 

[ivy]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date delayed to April 2, 2013

I can't pull up the pdf so my questions are: they are having Blanket to testify and the other kids?

no - as far as I can see. Children were sent written questions which the answers are sent written through lawyers

Rebbie gave a deposition?

yes

How were they chosen or did she and Tito volunteer? And she is the least sibling to know anything about Michael.

all of the sibling will be deposed.

She actually said soemthing about her and Latoya laughing going to an intervention? Shows you how serious it must have been.

not quite. she laughed at something Latoya did on intervention day during deposition

 

[Bonnie Blue]

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yet his family try to push the image that mj was some sort of crack head they were trying to save. i guess cause like with everything they were clueless about mj and his medical problems but of course wont admit that cause they were so "tight nit"

I just don't see it as just wanting to admit they weren't close. This druggie image pushed since 25 june was obviously one that mj was v sensitive about - eg getting his family to release that 07 statement, and it reflects really badly on his single parenting. So it seems really lowdown of the family to sell all these drug stories, esp when it was revealed he didn't have a painkiller addiction when he died but instead died from a negligently monitored propofol infusion to deal with insomnia. They're so keen to defend joe's abuse but not mj's drug history? It's in such stark contrast to amy whitehouse and whitney's families, where they defended their own even tho' it turned out they did die of what had been suspected. The jackson's behaviour seems like payback for something, like mj not doing the reunions, for estranging himself from them, from revealing joe's abuse and opening the lid on their perfect family image?

 

[marebear]

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Did not his mother say on Piers that Michael didn't die from painkillers and it was the propofol? They say Michael had all these issues yet they had no problem letting him pay for everything adding to the pressures he already had.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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I just don't see it as just wanting to admit they weren't close. This druggie image pushed since 25 june was obviously one that mj was v sensitive about - eg getting his family to release that 07 statement, and it reflects really badly on his single parenting. So it seems really lowdown of the family to sell all these drug stories, esp when it was revealed he didn't die of a painkiller addiction but from a negligently monitored propofol infusion to deal with insomnia. They're so keen to defend joe's abuse but not mj's drug history? It seems like payback for something, like not doing the reunions, for estranging himself from them, from revealing joe's abuse and opening the lid on their perfect family image?

i totally agree with what u say aswell.i think that is a major issue 2. they seem very vindictive and do act like its some sort of payback. payback for what u say and mj not leaving them anything etc.many times they have sounded bitter and resentful. cause lets face it even if mj was a raving addict if i were his family i would want to protect him. id say nothing and i certainly wouldnt be doing the rounds helping murray during the trial and go on about how we tried to save him in order to make myself look good.

and like u say AEG dont care what the family come out with. its not like they have the opposite opinion and will call the family out on their depos. we are in the bizare situation of the plaintifs depos directly helping the defendents so there is no one to counter act and call the family out as AEG are just gonna lap this up.so once again there is no one to protect mj. and the only person profiting in the end is murray

 

[Bonnie Blue]

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^ Totally agree elusive, that's why it's far better for this trial to go away, it's mj who is in the firing line and i personally don't have a pressing need to see the jacksons embarrassed in whatever the financial evidence shows during a civil trial, they've embarrassed themselves enough in all their post 25 june antics, we already know the score.

i noticed that kj claimed she never talked to mj about aeg or the concerts yet didnt she say in interviews that she told mj she didnt think he should do 50 shows

Mrs j was keen to tell piers that she was anxious about mj doing 50 shows so i assumed that was something she was talking about in the deposition. Not sure if she had the same anxiety before she and joe got blocked off the management side of tii, or just afterwards.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Agree. im dredding any trial and hope it never happens. All that matters to me is protecting mj as nothing will be reported on the families antics. the family are a joy to the media. i dont check but i would be surprised if the media dont run with the depo comments that are already out there

 

[Petrarose]

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In the deposition Katherine said she never met the people Michael was working with, so I wonder who she spoke to when she claimed she told them to reduce the 50 concerts. Who gave her the name of the person to call? There are so many inconsistencies.

Big Apple I was thinking the same thing about the money. Michael gives 1 million and no other child gives anything. Then when he comes back he gives 20,000 and then we see that Janet gives 10,000. Why isn't there a plan for all the children to give mom a few thousand each month, rather than 1 child giving everything!!!! Is it any wonder that this man was hiding? That is why I wanted AEG to ask them the circumstances of the interventions and to describe it, because we know every time they wanted something from Michael and he became unavailable, to them, it was time for an "intervention."

 

[loveforever]

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Reading every post here make me want to cry for Michael. he did so so so much for his family, but what he got in return. This world is so unfair to him.

 

[Petrarose]

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^^Yes. Another thing is that AEG is looking at who Michael helped with money. I have a feeling they are going to argue that one of his stressors was the financial burden of his mother and her grandchildren, his father, plus help to Tito. Once the others finish the deposition, AEG will have more names to add to the list. Remember the family claim that AEG placed a burden on Michael and used Muarry to make Michael comply. AEG will show that a great burden came from the family. AEG's most damaging evidence will come from the family.

 

[Big Apple2]

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^^Yes. Another thing is that AEG is looking at who Michael helped with money. I have a feeling they are going to argue that one of his stressors was the financial burden of his mother and her grandchildren, his father, plus help to Tito. Once the others finish the deposition, AEG will have more names to add to the list. Remember the family claim that AEG placed a burden on Michael and used Muarry to make Michael comply. AEG will show that a great burden came from the family. AEG's most damaging evidence will come from the family.

I totally agree!

There is a reason AEG asked Tito Jackson about back child support payments. They call it credibility, but I have a feeling it's much, much more. Especially after they finish deposing the family members on their deposition list and find out how often Michael had to financially help different members of his family.

How often, for what, how much, and for whom.

AEG "could" possible go that route, i.e. according to "some" members of the Jackson family, Michael had a severe drug addiction, yet they continued to obtain money from him, which only added more stress and more pressure upon the dear, sweet man. I mean, seriously, taking care of a family that size is no easy task. Especially when you consider that they wanted to continue living the HIGH LIFE. They didn't work like Michael, but they dang sure wanted to live like Michael, in my opinion.

 

[Petrarose]

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Big Apple I agree. I noticed that credibility statement, and I thought, "There is more to this." Basically the people in that home lived a upper class life. How many people have 1 million at their disposal for expenses. I also became alert when she asked the guy for all the money at once, and he did not give it to her, sticking to Michael's plan to give it to her as she needed it. Now you know that some son needed the money for something and was using Katherine to get the money. Their schemes never ceased.

 

[passy001]

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Another thing I noticed, which shouldn't surprise me, since we basically already knew that information, but seeing it in print, brings it to another level for me.

That would be the amount of money Michael gave his mother, the instructions he left with his accountant regarding money for his mother, and of course, sometimes paying Joe Jackson's rent.

I shudder when I think of the pressure the man was under and not from just outsiders, but from his own dang family.

Seriously $2,000.00 per month for a Hayvenhurst food bill! What the heck, that's a rather large monthly food bill. Was Mother feeding the entire neighborhood.

They have the nerve to talk about AEG putting Michael under pressure. "Some" of them need to take a look in the mirror and add their own names to "The We Put Michael Under Pressure" list.

I'm so through with the Jacksons!

Don't worry. You're not alone.

What I also found interesting is that with that kind of money ($2,000/PM) they couldn't even pay for Water and Electricity at Havendurst. They were living in complete dark in that place until MJ Estate started paying everything.

So, I think some of these figures are made up. They claim they received that money through MJ accountant. All AEG has to do is deposed the accountant and ask for bank statement for that period of time.

 

[CaptainEoLove85]

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What did Katherine need with all that money Michael was giving her? This case is a mess. I wish it would be dropped. Again Michael is the only loser here. :no:

 

[marebear]

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Reading every post here make me want to cry for Michael. he did so so so much for his family, but what he got in return. This world is so unfair to him.

Me too. He did everything for them and they still want more. I would have stayed away too.

 

[Petrarose]

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What did Katherine need with all that money Michael was giving her? This case is a mess. I wish it would be dropped. Again Michael is the only loser here. :no:

It could be that she used the money to give to her kids or grand kids. Since the utilities were not being paid, obviously they used the money for other things. It is easy to do that if you know Michael the Great will give money if you ask him for it.

 

[Victory22]

I’m sure MJ was mentally exhausted beyond imagining having to put up with all the clinging, demands and jealousy. Poor man. I'll be glad when this case is over.

 

[ilmjj]

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In the Piers Morgan interview Katherine said that she didn't think Michael could do the 50 shows because he had only 1 day off between shows. We know that is not true. I remember during the trial Deborah Brasil(sp) put up Michael's O2 schedule. I remember there were a couple of months when he had no shows at all. I can't find that schedule now. Can somebody help?!

When I read all of this about how much Michael did for his family and was sole provider for many (BTW Katherine why did you want 1 million $ at once. you knew you could get more when it was gone didn't you?) I can't help but wonder if Prince, Paris and Blanket might just lose a little respect for some of the Jackson's? They never had mine...

 

[Nathy MJ]

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I hope this does not take up to much board space if it does I am sorry. I remember I had this saved someplace. This is a section of Rowe's book where he talks about a trip they took to Michael's house in Vegas

Thanks for posting it... I have read Rowe's book, but I totally forgot that he mentions the Las Vegas thing. So what year was that? 2007?

 

[Nathy MJ]

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Ivy, can I translate your summary and post it on my website?

 

[bluetopez]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date delayed to April 2, 2013

The whole "MJ was on drugs for yrs" will not be fully proven by either side in my opinion. Because AEG is gettin their info mostly from the Jacksons who are now back trackin their info in the media. This will help AEG most likey to win their case. But, in my opinion they will not damage MJ rep in any more then the last trial did with the drug issues to the general public because they simply can't prove it by using the Jacksons ever changing stories about interventions. The Jacksons will be the ones to come off lookin foolish. But, AEG will only show that MJ wanted Murray and not they and that's it. That's my prediction here so I ain't gonna worry to much about it yet. It's still a long time comin and hopefully this won't even make it to trial?!

 

[Aquarius]

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I totally agree!

There is a reason AEG asked Tito Jackson about back child support payments. They call it credibility, but I have a feeling it's much, much more. Especially after they finish deposing the family members on their deposition list and find out how often Michael had to financially help different members of his family.

How often, for what, how much, and for whom.

AEG "could" possible go that route, i.e. according to "some" members of the Jackson family, Michael had a severe drug addiction, yet they continued to obtain money from him, which only added more stress and more pressure upon the dear, sweet man. I mean, seriously, taking care of a family that size is no easy task. Especially when you consider that they wanted to continue living the HIGH LIFE. They didn't work like Michael, but they dang sure wanted to live like Michael, in my opinion.

They didn't only wanted to live like Michael, they want to be Michael.

 

[loveforever]

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In Murray trial they had all Michael's medical records, 7 years I think. Even Murray's high paid biased addict expert had to admit he cant prove Michael was a addict based on his medical record. so I honestly don't think this AEG lawsuit could damage Michael further. What I concerned most is it gives media another chance to defame Michael, I think that's what the estate concerned. the Jacksons and AEG would both throw Michael under the bus for their own needs. The media don't care the truth, they just want negative and sensational things to report about michael (eg. 05 trials).Some say this trial will make the Jacksons look bad. I disagree, never in the millions years. because the media don't care about the Jacksons, many don't even know the rest Jacksons who is who. They only want dirts about michael, lies or not. The only one lose here is Michael Jackson.

 

[marebear]

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I might be in the minority here but I don't think this will hurt Michael as much as we think. Nothing new is being said that people haven't heard or don't think anyways. I want people to see all the good Michael did and how he supported the family. He should be respected for putting up with all of that when he did. He had his own kids to take care and his own problems and yet he still provided for them. People should ask the Jacksons why they couldn't take care of themselves all those years. The best thing Michael did was stop all of the handouts with his will. I believe that families should help each other but Michael was taken advantage of his whole life. People will learn to understand why Michael kept his distance. Not because of drugs but because he didn't want to know what they wanted from him now. It reminds of how you avoid phonecalls from someone who calls you all the time and you start avoiding them because you need a break from them.

 

[8701girl]

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In the Piers Morgan interview Katherine said that she didn't think Michael could do the 50 shows because he had only 1 day off between shows. We know that is not true

Didnt she say pretty much the same thing on that "michael jackson- life of an icon" dvd?

 

[Petrarose]

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^^That is the problem with Katherine--no one bothers to sit down and explain things to her, or give her the information for her to read and study. As a result she goes on shows and say things that make her look foolish. If she begins to use facts, then people will begin to believe what she is saying when she defends Michael.

This postponement is really far off--more than 6 months. I thought they originally wanted a 6 month delay. Hopefully as some said, the Jacksons will realize they are going to lose and this case disappears.

 

[8701girl]

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^^That is the problem with Katherine--no one bothers to sit down and explain things to her, or give her the information for her to read and study. As a result she goes on shows and say things that make her look foolish. If she begins to use facts, then people will begin to believe what she is saying when she defends Michael.

This postponement is really far off--more than 6 months. I thought they originally wanted a 6 month delay. Hopefully as some said, the Jacksons will realize they are going to lose and this case disappears.

To me i just have this feeling someone is telling her to say all these things cuz surely she can see how she says one thing then a totally different thing the next... i just dont know

 

[Bubs]

Re: Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date delayed to April 2, 2013

Another thing I noticed, which shouldn't surprise me, since we basically already knew that information, but seeing it in print, brings it to another level for me.

That would be the amount of money Michael gave his mother, the instructions he left with his accountant regarding money for his mother, and of course, sometimes paying Joe Jackson's rent.

I shudder when I think of the pressure the man was under and not from just outsiders, but from his own dang family.

Seriously $2,000.00 per month for a Hayvenhurst food bill! What the heck, that's a rather large monthly food bill. Was Mother feeding the entire neighborhood.

They have the nerve to talk about AEG putting Michael under pressure. "Some" of them need to take a look in the mirror and add their own names to "The We Put Michael Under Pressure" list.

I'm so through with the Jacksons!

I agree with your post about family putting Michael under the pressure. We only know that he helped the mother, but we don't know how much $ he helped other family members too.

Before Michael went on tour, he left 1 million to his accountant to give as check to Katherine when she needed, and she tried to get full million upfront! No doubt, other members of family were in need for money, so she needed the whole lot.

$2,000.00 for groceries, I think Katherine was feeding other people too, that wasn't living in the house
I remember reading from Margaret Maldonado's book that Rebbie used to come to house and take bags and bags of food with her to feed her own family.

 

[Bubs]

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I would like to know the dates to this so called interventions. I think Michael's problems with medications was in 1993 and 2000 to 2003, as he himself said in the wiesner deposition. So the Las Vegas thing, I think it was 2007 or 2008, wasn't really a intervention...

I don't know what they are saying, they off their heads with their so called interventions:wacko:
I still refer their statement from 2007:
"We categorically deny ever planning, participating in or having knowledge of any
kind of intervention, whatsoever."
That was signed all 4 brothers and Katherine.
In her deposition she says she went to Neverland for intervention, Michael wasn't in Neverland in 2007.
She lies either on her deposition or statement.

In no doubt, AEG is not going to expose her lies about intervention as it suits their case that family goes around telling that Michael was abusing drugs.

 

[Bubs]

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In the Piers Morgan interview Katherine said that she didn't think Michael could do the 50 shows because he had only 1 day off between shows. We know that is not true. I remember during the trial Deborah Brasil(sp) put up Michael's O2 schedule. I remember there were a couple of months when he had no shows at all. I can't find that schedule now. Can somebody help?!

See the end of the page for tour dates
http://www.michaeljacksonlive.com/refunds.php.

I think the dates were close but the DiLeo got them spaced out and he had 3 months break in the middle.