Lisa Marie Presley * Designated discussion thread for everything LMP

[Victory22]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

I was just trying to make the point that the media would never ever twist anything Lisa or her family ever said about Elvis, while they already have with Paris.



See this is the constant thing you get from you, you aren't at all that knowledgeable about anything. And obviously what you say above isn't true, because everyone bashes Bobby for what they believe he did to Whitney, while you can't find anyone that even remembers what Lisa said about MJ. So so much for the "she bashed him at every turn" nonsense you guys push.

But back to Bobby, he only beat her, cheat on her in her, spit in her face, blamed her for getting him onto drugs which everyone and their mama knew was a bold face lie, make her appear on that terrible reality show that turned her into a joke, constantly get arrested, shamelessly piss away her money with his kids, and overall at anytime just say the most asswipish things about Whitney which brought her loads and loads of bad press. Lisa on the other hand, hasn't mentioned MJ to her "go to" interviewers (ET, GMA, Extra, Access Hollywood, etc.) in YEARS!!!!

Even his kids got in on the act. And you know things are bad when it was Krissi their own daughter, that told her mother that she had to finally leave Bobby. And it wasn't much of a surprise to anyone when Simon Cowell called out Bobby on national tv the night Whitney died. He said what so many were thinking. But you guys sit here and try to blow up a couple of shitty dated quotes from Lisa.

So because Lisa didn't physically spit in Michael's face and do all the things you say Bobby Brown did to Whitney that somehow lets her off the hook for all the despicable verbal abuse she publically put MJ through from 1996 all the way up until two months before his death?

 

[jaydom7]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Angie,

Whitney also dogged out Bobby didn't she? Michael never said one bad word about Lisa. You can't even compare the two Angie and you know it.

 

[jaydom7]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

So because Lisa didn't physically spit in Michael's face and do all the things you say Bobby Brown did to Whitney that somehow lets her off the hook for all the despicable verbal abuse she publically put MJ through from 1996 all the way up until two months before his death?

Thank You! Whitney and Bobby's relationship was a totally different dynamic.. Whitney fought back too. She was no total pushover according to her. Lisa publicly berated and verbally abused MJ without MJ even 'fighting' back so to speak. He wished her the best in her life and kept it moving. Mike never said one bad word about Lisa.

 

[Dublinproud]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Good Lord i cannot believe this thread is still going. Talk about beating a dead horse. Can we not move on?

 

[lom kit]

Here's the lyrics about Debbie.. I just found it.

"Over Me"
I’ve seen her face, its okay it ain’t nothing great
Yeah she’s cool in a gap toothed Hippy chick way
I’ve seen the way you and she
Put on a playAnd how she plays the part
Much better than I played

[Chorus:]

Can it be you're over me She took my place,
she saved the day It’s hard to see you're over me
That when she took my place
She saved the day

I’ve seen that she likes to eat
Whatever you make
And how well she can bake that cake I wouldn’t bake
What a breath of fresh air she is In my wake


[Chorus]

You hope there’s no bad blood,
You want to be my friend
To say hi now and then
You know there’s very bad blood
And I was never your friend to say hi

what makes you think its about Debbie? she was married with other guys too, you know?



to all that hate her for no reason.

I've watched many Lisa interviews. I really never saw any that she bashed him, trashed him or anything like that. She never started to talk about Michael by herself, she's always asked. And everytime I see how she's doesn't want to talk about him at all. she feel uncomfortable and start to fidget just like Michael did when Bashir continued asking him about his surgeries.

Fans overreact so much that its getting ridiculous. if she's not saying that "he is a wonderful person", and i think she never did, then all she says is bashing for MJ fans.
All i see in those interviews is she didn't care about him anymore and repeated over and over that shed moved on. but shes keept asked about Michael. and bad luck for her that everytime shes giving interviews, she had album out. she should do like others do and give interviews when she has no projects running. and MJ fans act like all she's about is to talk about him, where don't see that actualy its not her fault that all they want to hear from her is about their marriage.

Let me say one thing. Michael wasn't easy person. he wasn't the "angel" you think of him. and you can't expect from everyone who knew him to say only 100% positive things about him. his nature wasn't easy to live with. And if he was more "normal" and capable of having relationships, this marriage coud have last little longer. NO he wasn't capable, cause he never had any. doesn't mean he couldn't "learn" it, but he never had the opportunity and no one had the patience with him. And Lisa also isn't capable too. although she didn't want have kids with him, so they were doomed anyway.
Yes, i don't knew him personally, blah blah. I see alot of persons i know in him.

she said he was manipulative. first of all she has the right to say that, if she feels that way. cause she lived with him and knew him more then anyone then. and i think he was. and to me she made him look more normal, then anyone else who talked "extremly positive" about him and telling some stories that made him look like none-human. Its one thing to have friedship him and totally different to have relationship. So all the great positive things you read about him from persons that knew him, can't relate to how he was as someone to have marriage with.
you don't know what really went down. should she have not talk about him at all, all these years?
there is no need to compare them to other couples. anyone handles such relationship differently. Michael didn't talked about her , she is talking about him. all in all, its not that bad, how many fans make it look.
Debbie was paid to shut up. thats why you didn't hear many negative things from her. Lisa wasn't.

 

[jaydom7]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

lom kit if she didn't want to talk about him why did that change after his death? she voluntarily spoke to Oprah in 2010 and she voluntarily answered questions about him to the UK magazine in 2012. There was no need for her to do that. If she would've made a comment like I wish MJ's family much peace in his passing etc and left it alone all would've been good.. She's the one that wrote the blogs, visited his tomb, told his fans to bring sunflowers, went to his funeral, talked to Oprah for an hour showing her fake grieving self standing by his casket etc.. She voluntarily did that. Since she said years ago she was indifferent and didn't love MJ anymore then there was no need for her fakery when he passed.. She would've been better off keeping it real and showing her hatred for him that she had shown all those years because the majority of his fans don't believe any of her newfound 'enlightenments' about him now anyway.

 

[MJTheKing]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

So Lisa has a right to say whatever she wants about Michael on TV because she lived with ( a lot of fu*ckry people lived with him btw ) while fans have no right to get mad or angry, in the contrary, they should like her and defend her?? I don't get that logic

All of us know Debbie hates the media attention unlike Lisa, she would never sell her story or insult Michael even if she could, a woman who knew how much Michael needed and deserved to be a dad would show him that respect, it's not weird at all, no one forced Debbie to defend Michael in take-two, she wasn't paid, she did it because she wanted to help him.

 

[jaydom7]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

So Lisa has a right to say whatever she wants about Michael on TV because she lived with ( a lot of fu*ckry people lived with him btw ) while fans have no right to get mad or angry, in the contrary, they should like her and defend her?? I don't get that logic

All of us know Debbie hates the media attention unlike Lisa, she would never sell her story or insult Michael even if she could, a woman who knew how much Michael needed and deserved to be a dad would show him that respect, it's not weird.

Excellent post!

 

[MJTheKing]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

I also don't get how Michael deserved to be disrespected in front of the public eye because he wasn't "angel", so it's understable to treat people that way because they aren't angels? What about their humanity? Does it mean a thing?

 

[marebear]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Michael wasn't a saint or an angel. Nobody is. I never thought he was. It's insulting when people say that like we are blind and naive. Even when things don't work out with someone you can still act with class and dignity in how you talk about that person especially publically for the world to hear about. Michael could have easily discussed her and chose not too. He knew better than anyone what their relationship was like but he chose not too. You don't need to be a saint to do that but it shows his character.

 

[Victory22]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Good Lord i cannot believe this thread is still going. Talk about beating a dead horse. Can we not move on?

Don't worry about it. It's ok.

 

[Victory22]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Michael wasn't a saint or an angel. Nobody is. I never thought he was. It's insulting when people say that like we are blind and naive. Even when things don't work out with someone you can still act with class and dignity in how you talk about that person especially publically for the world to hear about. Michael could have easily discussed her and chose not too. He knew better than anyone what their relationship was like but he chose not too. You don't need to be a saint to do that but it shows his character.

What you've said is so very true. I don't think for a moment that Michael was perfect he made his share of mistakes and he was hurt by others plenty but the one thing he never did was try to publically humiliate anyone. That shows both class on his part and it shows character of which Lisa Presley has very little.

 

[windy09]

oops ... Sorry for causing any confusion by posting under the wrong account earlier. I was using the board control panel to clean out spammers /approve Jr members posts and I just forgot to log out. I'll repost





Well we all have been around long enough to know why his name was used by the Magazine and that Lisa dint create the headline on the cover. We know how it works. I agree that is not a very good picture. It seems over photo-shopped. Her face is to elongated and the makeup doesn't suit her at all.



I don't really feel it is obvious. I see nothing in her words or actions to indicate that he means nothing to her. I know in the past she was a bitter angry scorned young woman very hurt and upset over their break up. At that time she said things that bitter scorned women do. But she has grown and matured a lot over the years since then. She has moved on in her life and sees things with a better perspective. In reality that's what happens when you have time and distance from a painful situation. You can see things more clear without being bitter or hurt any longer. His death also made her look at things about Michael and herself that maybe she couldn't face or see before. Thats very common when someone you cared or cared about dies.

I know You may not like her because of her her past actions and that's your right. I'm certainly not telling you how to feel. I know many fans don't like her for her past. But people change. They live learn and grow. Just trying to show things from a different perspective. Her words and demeanor make it evident to me she did love Michael. They even tried to work it out but in the end it wasnt meant to be. They both moved on in their lives. Same thing Michael said about their relationship. Lisa only says positive things and very little, only when pressed. She certainly isn't out to do a whole interview about MJ but questions will come up after all He was a part of her life. She cant change the past only learn from it as we all do. There is no disrespect in her words. It doesn't bother me when she discusses him. I dont feel it is harming anything at all. Hope Im not stepping on anyones toes. It's just how I personaly feel about the situation.

Well said Qbee! I concur with what you say. We all make bad judgement calls and we all have to live with our actions. We can't change the past and it doesn't matter really. It matters what we do today and going forward. We learn from our mistakes and from those lessons, our souls evolve. We develop a different perspective. It does appear that Lisa has. I understand why many fans are upset with her but we all as human beings can make that change and be more aware if how our actions and words ripple out. This includes Lisa. Michael might even have forgiven her and anyone else who hurt him. That is just the type of soul he was; LOVE and forgiveness is what he was all about.

Sending you all a Major LOVE

 

[jaydom7]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Lisa hasn't developed a different perspective.. She is trying to absolve herself from the years of bashing. What she forgets is that all of her interviews and videos of her are on youtube so everyone can hear the nastiness that spewed from her mouth about MJ. She hasn't apologized for saying any of it that's because she meant every word. She may have some MJ fans fooled but I don't trust her or believe her. She never loved MJ then or now..

 

[Aquarius]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

what makes you think its about Debbie? she was married with other guys too, you know?



to all that hate her for no reason.

I've watched many Lisa interviews. I really never saw any that she bashed him, trashed him or anything like that. She never started to talk about Michael by herself, she's always asked. And everytime I see how she's doesn't want to talk about him at all. she feel uncomfortable and start to fidget just like Michael did when Bashir continued asking him about his surgeries.

Fans overreact so much that its getting ridiculous. if she's not saying that "he is a wonderful person", and i think she never did, then all she says is bashing for MJ fans.
All i see in those interviews is she didn't care about him anymore and repeated over and over that shed moved on. but shes keept asked about Michael. and bad luck for her that everytime shes giving interviews, she had album out. she should do like others do and give interviews when she has no projects running. and MJ fans act like all she's about is to talk about him, where don't see that actualy its not her fault that all they want to hear from her is about their marriage.

Let me say one thing. Michael wasn't easy person. he wasn't the "angel" you think of him. and you can't expect from everyone who knew him to say only 100% positive things about him. his nature wasn't easy to live with. And if he was more "normal" and capable of having relationships, this marriage coud have last little longer. NO he wasn't capable, cause he never had any. doesn't mean he couldn't "learn" it, but he never had the opportunity and no one had the patience with him. And Lisa also isn't capable too. although she didn't want have kids with him, so they were doomed anyway.
Yes, i don't knew him personally, blah blah. I see alot of persons i know in him.

she said he was manipulative. first of all she has the right to say that, if she feels that way. cause she lived with him and knew him more then anyone then. and i think he was. and to me she made him look more normal, then anyone else who talked "extremly positive" about him and telling some stories that made him look like none-human. Its one thing to have friedship him and totally different to have relationship. So all the great positive things you read about him from persons that knew him, can't relate to how he was as someone to have marriage with.
you don't know what really went down. should she have not talk about him at all, all these years?
there is no need to compare them to other couples. anyone handles such relationship differently. Michael didn't talked about her , she is talking about him. all in all, its not that bad, how many fans make it look.
Debbie was paid to shut up. thats why you didn't hear many negative things from her. Lisa wasn't.

What makes you think Michael wasn't that normal? And why you have to bring his surgeries?

You say you don't know him personally but you're making claims that he was incapable of having a relationship, that he never had one and that no one had the patience with him. For someone who didn't know him personally, you're making questionable statements. How did you come to that conclusion? Is there something that bothers you about MIchael? I ask that because you're post sound like you're throwing stones at Michael, surgery, not being normal, unable to have a relationship.

BTW, some people bash their partners when they break the relationship. They talk to friends & family and they say the worst of each other, but only a person with no dignity will go to a public place to bash his/her ex.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Since Lisa mocked Debbie, I can use Debbie to mock Lisa!

:lmao: It's so suitable! :rofl:

HAAA this is too cute, and the outfits are spot on!!! This is a very vocal Debbie.

PS if the straying of this topic continues, we might have the mods come in here and say something.

 

[bluetopez]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Yes, i don't knew him personally, blah blah. I see alot of persons i know in him.

Lom Kit let me get this straight... ur judging MJ by what u saw in others?

Ya know that MJ never said anything negative about Lisa in public like she has done to him, Right? Yet, u take her words and believe in them and say she made MJ look "normal" to u.

:rofl: Sorry, But, I never laughed so hard! lol

you can't find anyone that even remembers what Lisa said about MJ

AngieJ Who is anyone according to u?

Why are some talking about "Bobby Brown", "Presley Media Power" & "MJ isn't a saint"...WTF? Here I thought it would be simple for all to see THE TRUTH on how much she bashed him while alive and now that he is dead and a amazing legend, all of a sudden she is as positive as can be. Hmmm silly me. I'm sure MJ bashers wish so many can show them this much love and make excuses as Lisa has received. Seriously, just because he married this women doesn't give her a pass people. He never once denounced her publicly! She felt like she had to explain herself to the public for marrying someone many thought was weird, which made her weird in their eyes. As she said on VH1 that many was surprise to find out she was normal when she was explaining why someone like her would had married him. I found that insulting. It doesn't really matter how many interviews she has done lately on MJ or not. It's the fact that she was HELL BENT on denouncing him throughout the yrs up until months before he died to finally even consider talking about him like a freakin human being. Shoot, do some of ya'll get it now?

 

[8701girl]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Well according to Lisa the press has twisted what she has said about Michael on several occasions and if you think Lisa and Elvis are immune to negative media criticism you are delusional. I have read many negative reports about both Lisa and her father over the years.

HAH thats laughable! the problem is we all saw with our own eyes what she said on most occasions when she did televised interviews. She cant just come out all nasty then say "ohh they twisted it" that is a load of bs lol

 

[marialovesmjj]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Well what else can be said that hasn't been said? Nothing really.

We could wish that she would take a more firm stance instead of "I never saw anything inappropriate." Chances are she will just keep it at that if she took a firmer stance people who hate MJ but like her might start to dislike her. Maybe she's afraid of backlash.

As for the other comments she has made in the past bitter or not she still said them. To me if she wanted to be bitter fine but she could have said it to his face in private. We could get mad for her not keeping her word but at the end of the day we can't stop her from saying whatever she wants. It's not worth getting super upset because of her.

 

[Ashtanga]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

:wtf:


Oh God....

:sigh:



So this thread is still alive? :blink: :wacko: For how many years Lisa still will be a matter to be discussed by fans (as if she had some importance :nono: .... Never!)? :busted: I have wondered about it.... :fear: Unbelievable as this issue STILL yields. :doh:

 

[bluetopez]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

To me it's basically anyone who said half truths, lies or can't even defend him probably that I have a problem with. Whether their name is Lisa Marie or not doesn't make a difference to me! No ish the man wasn't perfect but, look at the amount of crap that has been said about Michael. Many treated him like he wasn't even human. Like he just took what he wanted and ran off and left them to die or something. It's ridiculous and should be corrected! Because their is enough proof that he was used and abuse far more then some of these very people who bashed him like to admit. Just saying!

 

[Victory22]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

HAH thats laughable! the problem is we all saw with our own eyes what she said on most occasions when she did televised interviews. She cant just come out all nasty then say "ohh they twisted it" that is a load of bs lol

You are exactly right we watched her sit on TV interview after interview making fun of MJ and spitting venom about him. Nothing she said was twisted. The media was looking to harm him and lisa knew it. Every word she spoke was said with premeditated, malicious intent.

 

[jaydom7]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

You are exactly right we watched her sit on TV interview after interview making fun of MJ and spitting venom about him. Nothing she said was twisted. The media was looking to harm him and lisa knew it. Every word she spoke was said with premeditated, malicious intent.

yep she played right in their hands and bashed him right along with them. Now suddenly she wants to play nice and act all loving and compassionate when we all know what she said and did. Does she ever look back at those interviews? her and Diane Sawyer mocking and giggling at MJ was not cool. She acted like he wasn't even human. She should be ashamed of herself and I wonder how she even had the gall to show her face at his funeral. That was some audacity.

 

[Victory22]

yep she played right in their hands and bashed him right along with them. Now suddenly she wants to play nice and act all loving and compassionate when we all know what she said and did. Does she ever look back at those interviews? her and Diane Sawyer mocking and giggling at MJ was not cool. She acted like he wasn't even human. She should be ashamed of herself and I wonder how she even had the gall to show her face at his funeral. That was some audacity.

She knew she could show up at the funeral and be welcomed by the Jackson’s, Janet and Rebbie are still friends with her. You can be sure that anyone who has repeatedly stabbed Michael in the back and tried to take him down will be adored and respected by the J family.

As to Lisa being ashamed you have to have a conscious and some level of decency in order to feel shame over your past cruelty and character breakdown. I don’t think Lisa has the will or the capacity to look at herself in the mirror and see what a hard, hot mess she has become.

 

[jaydom7]

She knew she could show up at the funeral and be welcomed by the Jackson’s, Janet and Rebbie are still friends with her. You can be sure that anyone who has repeatedly stabbed Michael in the back and tried to take him down will be adored and respected by the J family.

As to Lisa being ashamed you have to have a conscious and some level of decency in order to feel shame over your past cruelty and character breakdown. I don’t think Lisa has the will or the capacity to look at herself in the mirror and see what a hard, hot mess she has become.

very true! MJ's backstabbing family are traitors so you're right not surprised at all she was there. Randy even allowed her to decorate his tomb with sunflowers after she trashed Mike for 8 years or so. That family gets me madder and madder every time I think of them.

 

[Victory22]

I’m glad you brought up the Sunflower call to MJ fans which was an outright insult! She wanted FAKE @zz flowers sent to the tomb of MICHAEL JACKSON! Let her send fake flowers to her father’s grave but how dare she think MJ’s fans would send him cheap substitutes for the real thing. He got enough of that before and after his marriage to her. Marilyn Monroe’s ex-husband personally had real flowers sent to her grave until he died. If Lisa really cared for MJ the way she claims she would have quietly done the same thing instead of wanting this great man surrounded by tacky, plastic, dollar store garbage.

 

[AngieJ]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Well according to Lisa the press has twisted what she has said about Michael on several occasions and if you think Lisa and Elvis are immune to negative media criticism you are delusional. I have read many negative reports about both Lisa and her father over the years.

No shit they have been negative. You're talking to someone who grew up on Elvis, so I know what is said. But the point is anyone that follows pop culture knows there isn't a more held up figure by the media than Elvis. For every 1 thing that is said against him, there are 20 positive things that will be said for him. Same thing with Lisa. The tabloids mess with her, but the majority of the media kisses her ass hard. This has to be one of the most blatant examples of what i'm talking about. Once when CNN did a report on her, they actually said Lisa's album outsold Invincible.

So because Lisa didn't physically spit in Michael's face and do all the things you say Bobby Brown did to Whitney that somehow lets her off the hook for all the despicable verbal abuse she publically put MJ through from 1996 all the way up until two months before his death?

Nah, because she isn't talking about him as much as you guys say she is, is why is she is left off the hook by most folks like myself. If she abused MJ like you guys say, what's with the dated selective quotes then? If she was truly abusing him, she would've went after him to those highly seen programs that love to talk shit about MJ. But instead there is mostly nothing past 2005.

The thing with you haters is, you can talk smack about her among yourselves, but when confronted by fans like me that read and see everything that Lisa does, you cannot back up your hate to save your lives. My question is, why do all this barking then? You can't bring up her attacking him on any recent interviews with ET, Extra, Access Hollywood, Jimmy Kimmel, Leno, The View, etc. so what's the point of expressing all this outrage?

 

[AngieJ]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Angie,

Whitney also dogged out Bobby didn't she? Michael never said one bad word about Lisa. You can't even compare the two Angie and you know it.

Not really, but if she had, so what. After what he did, she had the right to say what she did about him.

What i'm comparing is, here is this guy who did everything you can name bad against Whitney and he unfortunately will remain relevant in her world and is still a threat to her name and image, but still her fans go out of their way not to talk about him. While you have Lisa who hasn't been relevant to MJ in over 16 years and is clearly no threat, but you still find ways to keep talking about her. Why is that?

 

[Victory22]

No shit they have been negative. You're talking to someone who grew up on Elvis, so I know what is said. But the point is anyone that follows pop culture knows there isn't a more held up figure by the media than Elvis. For every 1 thing that is said against him, there are 20 positive things that will be said for him. Same thing with Lisa. The tabloids mess with her, but the majority of the media kisses her ass hard. This has to be one of the most blatant examples of what i'm talking about. Once when CNN did a report on her, they actually said Lisa's album outsold Invincible.



Nah, because she isn't talking about him as much as you guys say she is, is why is she is left off the hook by most folks like myself. If she abused MJ like you guys say, what's with the dated selective quotes then? If she was truly abusing him, she would've went after him to those highly seen programs that love to talk shit about MJ. But instead there is mostly nothing past 2005.

The thing with you haters is, you can talk smack about her among yourselves, but when confronted by fans like me that read and see everything that Lisa does, you cannot back up your hate to save your lives. My question is, why do all this barking then? You can't bring up her attacking him on any recent interviews with ET, Extra, Access Hollywood, Jimmy Kimmel, Leno, The View, etc. so what's the point of expressing all this outrage?

The thing with Lisa lovers like you is that you guys are delusional about what the general public really thinks of Lisa Presley and no matter how many videos, article’s and interviews of her outright HATING, ABUSING and DISRESPECTING Michael you are provided with you will continue to come up with the same lame excuses and justifications for that vile woman.

 

[marebear]

Re: New--- Lisa Marie Presley on Michael Jackson

Before June 25 she was embarassed to have been married to Michael. After June 25 she wasn't. Since his death she hasn't said a mean, disgusting things like she had said before. That's true. Even a nice comment rubs people the wrong way as weird as that sounds. If Oprah today started saying nice things now it would rub people the wrong way because of her behavior towards Michael before he died.

The problem is not that the fans don't see that Michael was a real person with feelings. The public and the media never saw him as a real person. Just look at the ridiculous things they ask Lisa then and now. People treated Michael like he was a weirdo, freak or some alien. When he made a mistake he was crucified for it relentlessly. If someone else made a mistake eventually people would forget and move on. Michael can't have sex, Michael can't have kids, Michael can't have a drink etc. Last time I saw he was a real human being.

This doesn't have to be about Lisa at all. It could be anybody here. The day Michael died Al Sharpton said where was the love for him yesterday? I actually envy Elvis and John Lennon for example. Their lives were not watched and ripped apart by the public and the media. Not the way they did to Michael. Even Madonna called it a witch hunt. After their death they were treated with respect and dignity. I want that for Michael. Since his death there has been so much hypocricy by so many people.

I think everyone has different tolerant levels of what they want to hear or who they want to hear from. Some people may not give a crap what Lisa says good or bad because she means nothing to them. For others she can rub them the wrong way and prefer not to hear anything from her even it is a good thing. The tolerant levels can change but it might take others a little longer to get where you are at.