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Mark Geragos on His Client Frank Cascio vs Michael Jackson

Blues_Away2023 said:
So all 5 siblings were abused for years, including a girl which completely changes the narrative that MJ was only into boys.

All stayed silent for decades and decades, writing books about MJ , handing over fake songs and praising him whenever they could…..

Until they wanted a slice of the pie themselves 💰 💸
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And when Marie-Nicole married James Porte, James Porte performed as Michael Jackson at their wedding...and there was more MJ inspired stuff during it as well.

Its kind of like Robson wanting to get married at Neverland or Gavin Arvizo playing MJs music at his wedding etc, its insane:D

There is also the scenario of MJ always replacing boys when they got older but now they claim that MJ wanted to keep fecking them even as they were fully grown adults which also contradicts everything said before. Although Dan Reed claimed the train station lie was in fact just a a mistake of when the abuse happened- he said MJ did still feck Safechuck on the second floor of the train station when Safechuck was 16-17 and physically bigger than MJ! Of course Safechuck himself never claimed to be abused anywhere near that age.

At this point I would say it would take a full calendar year of a trial to get into the details of everything! What it all comes down to is that it should be made impossible to start cases against dead people decades after alleged crimes took place (or make TV-shows about it) it does not make sense to allow it. At some point people that had decades to make these claims just have to be told its to late now to bring it!
 
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Kaelis said:
oui ! https://www.damienshields.com/porte-cascio-wedding-lawsuit/


Frank ne fait pas partie de cette plainte ? Pourquoi ?
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Michael Jackson's Former Friends Sue Estate for Sex Trafficking

8:10 PM PT -- Attorney Marty Singer tells TMZ ... “This lawsuit is a desperate money grab by additional members of the Cascio family who have hopped on the bandwagon with their brother Frank, who is already being sued in arbitration for civil extortion.
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Well that makes sense then why Marie all of the sudden is posing as a ”victim”. 🙄 James Porte is never going to work in the music industry again after the fake teacks so makes sense his wife would be out for money. 🙄

But the AUDACITY of them all using EVERYTHING Michael did to them against him!!! 🤬 Did you guys read in the lawsuit how they listed ”dpending Thanksgivibgs and Christmas, calling them their other family, exclusive access to his celebrity lifestyle, shopping sorees, international travel”,etc….as something SINISTER?!!! I mean SERIOUSLY GO F**K YOURSELVES, each and ever one of them!!!!!!!!!!
Lightbringer said:
Not even 1993 is an easy "no-pay".

What happens if the case goes to a trial and MJ gets life in prison? It was not a guarantee MJ would walk free. A jury trial is a jury trial, its human beings which are unpredictable. As you know MJ asked his lawyers if they could guarantee that he would win the case and they responded "We can not guarantee you anything Michael.".

What you could be up against in 1993 was a civil case of 3-5 years litigation with endless lawyer costs and possible a big pay-out for the Chandlers at the end of the civil trial. And then a criminal case with Sneddon having been able to sit in on the civial trial and heard MJs entire defense and build his criminal case bypassing MJs defensive strategy. The latter was a big reason why the case was settled as MJ would not have the right to a fair criminal trial and thus could end up behind bars even if he was innocent. On top of that everyone on a jury for a criminal trial would have been poisoned from the civil trial media spectacle.

On top of that you would have had Michael having to endure at least 4-5 years of litigation about child molestation. His mental health would have suffered, he would not be able to tour, not be able to record and release music. Sponsors would have jumped ship, it would have been a nightmare. We all saw what happened during the 2005 trial and despite the vindication MJ would never recover and essentially died because of that trial. If he had fought back in 1993 most likely the same would have happened with Michaels health even if MJ had won the civil, criminal trial or both.

The risk of going to jail & ruining all his career earnings by not settling the civil case was significant. Its easy to say never give in to false allegations, but companies and private persons settle stuff all the time because it might be the best decision, even if it rewards the a scammer or someone making false allegations.

Also at that time it was impossible to predict another crazy family like the Arvizos would come along, let alone the Robsons & Safechuck. We have hindsight, the people making the decisions back in 1993-1994 did not have a crystal ball that could see into the future, thats important to keep in mind!
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yes. And just wanted to remind everyone that the 1993 settlement never prevented a criminal trial. As seen with Jordan’s mother being able to testify despite a settlement. Jordan too could’ve testified at a criminal trial if he wanted…but he didn’t want to do so. It has been his own decision not to do that, a settlement never prevented him from doing so. Except that now that his case was included in the 2005 trial, he had his chance, and since MJ was found not guilty, his chance has been used. I can’t see him testifying at a civil trial because of the settlement.

Anyways, back in 1993 a civil trial was allowed to be held BEFORE a criminal trial, which would’ve meant that MJ would’ve never gotten a fair CRIMINAL trial. It was changed after that and now any civil trial will have to be held AFTER a criminal trial, not before. That is the only reason why the CIVIL case was settled with the Chandlers. The Chandler case in fact went in front of grand jury to decide if there will be a criminal trial or not (and again, no civil settlement ever would have prevented Jordy from testifying at a criminal trial, despite what some haters try to make it look like). It was the GRAND JURY that decided there was not enough evidence for it to go on trial, the settlement had nothing to do with the criminal trial.

There is SO MUCH evidence against all these grifters, exposing them as such. I mean, the Cascios accepting payments for five years and only when those payments were coming to an end…..THAT’S when they all if the sudden had a ”problem” with their contract with the Estate and wanted more money. Even an idiot can see through THAT. You’re fine for five years living on a payment if almost $700,000 a year, but once the moneytrain is arriving to its final destination…THAT’S when you come up with allegations and have a problem? They most likely got used to a rich life without having to do any work and established that kind of lifestyle and expenses abd weren’t going to give that up. Makes sense if Marie is married to James Porte, why she is also posing as a ”victim”. Porte will never work in the music infustry again after the fake MJ tracks, so makes sense if they are very motivated to get a huge paycheck since they modt likely are broke.
 
I would really advice all fans to not click on any tabloid stories. Do not give them traffic. And the idea that ”how can we defend Michael if we don’t know what they are saying”…. Don’t waste your energy on defending any tabloid crap. Just don’t bring any attention to it. The public opinioin on the Cascios AND on Geragos are extremely low! The public sees the Cascios as grifters and Geragos seems to be seen by the public as a ”slimeball”, ”unethical” and not trustworthy, so let them marinate in that. Don’t give them any more atttention! If the press sees that it can’t get traffic and clicks with the negative articles, they will dump it. If they see positive articles get more clicks, they will keep that up. So be mindful and be patient.

As I said…the thing with lies is that you are bound to trip on your own lies. And greed makes you blind. Frank has another thing coming, that he probably hasn’t even factored in at all. Either way they are going to be f**ked by karma. Just wait. The best part…fans don’t even have to do anything, they are doing it to themselves with their own web of lies. Their web of lies is about to trip them real bad. You just wait and get the pop corn ready. As Michael said: Lies run sprints, the truth runs marathons. And the truth will ALWAYS triumph. They think they are being so clever, but too bad for them, lying and making Michael look guilty will be even worse for their own outcome. They forget that. Liars will be lying…..until they have to face the truth and hard facts. And you just watch how quickly they will start telling the truth when they realize they have talked themselves into a corner while thinking they were soooo smart. 😂😂 Just wait and watch. The truth will win. Always.

Sort of like James saying he didn’t ”realize” he was abused until he saa Wade on TV but his mom saying she ”danced from joy” when Michael died. Both scenarios can’t be true so they are f**ked either way and proven as liars. 🤷‍♀️

Same with the Cascios…you can’t have multiple contradicting things be true at the same time, so they too are f**ked either way. And Frank especially. Apparently he doesn’t even realize how royally f**ked he can end up legally with what he is doing (and he is doing it to himself all by himself too…such an idiot!) 😂😂😂 Go on Frank, keep going!! I hope jail was part of your plan because that’s the corner you are painting yourself in! 👌🏻👏🏻😂😂😂
 
J’ai cru lire que Eddie Cascio s’était rendu au bureau du droit d’auteur des États Unis, pour déposer les fausses musiques, le 27 juin 2009 ! Soit seulement 48 heures après le décès de MJ !!!
Savez vous si cette info est vraie ?

Si oui, ça montre (encore une fois) clairement ses mauvaises intentions !
 
For what it’s worth, the general response isn’t all eye rolling sadly. I’m seeing quite a bit of “just more evidence this guy is guilty” on different corners of the internet. This isn’t nearly enough to turn the tides, but it is absolutely headlining news, as demonstrated by Googling MJ’s name and combing through the top news results.
 
It's so simple:

'Paying off' accusers can be because of a million reasons..

Not going to the police when you are so sure someone is abusing your child and (and remains a danger to others) while trying to make a monetary deal instead can only mean one thing: extortion
 
summer said:
Well that makes sense then why Marie all of the sudden is posing as a ”victim”. 🙄 James Porte is never going to work in the music industry again after the fake teacks so makes sense his wife would be out for money. 🙄

But the AUDACITY of them all using EVERYTHING Michael did to them against him!!! 🤬 Did you guys read in the lawsuit how they listed ”dpending Thanksgivibgs and Christmas, calling them their other family, exclusive access to his celebrity lifestyle, shopping sorees, international travel”,etc….as something SINISTER?!!! I mean SERIOUSLY GO F**K YOURSELVES, each and ever one of them!!!!!!!!!!

yes. And just wanted to remind everyone that the 1993 settlement never prevented a criminal trial. As seen with Jordan’s mother being able to testify despite a settlement. Jordan too could’ve testified at a criminal trial if he wanted…but he didn’t want to do so. It has been his own decision not to do that, a settlement never prevented him from doing so. Except that now that his case was included in the 2005 trial, he had his chance, and since MJ was found not guilty, his chance has been used. I can’t see him testifying at a civil trial because of the settlement.

Anyways, back in 1993 a civil trial was allowed to be held BEFORE a criminal trial, which would’ve meant that MJ would’ve never gotten a fair CRIMINAL trial. It was changed after that and now any civil trial will have to be held AFTER a criminal trial, not before. That is the only reason why the CIVIL case was settled with the Chandlers. The Chandler case in fact went in front of grand jury to decide if there will be a criminal trial or not (and again, no civil settlement ever would have prevented Jordy from testifying at a criminal trial, despite what some haters try to make it look like). It was the GRAND JURY that decided there was not enough evidence for it to go on trial, the settlement had nothing to do with the criminal trial.

There is SO MUCH evidence against all these grifters, exposing them as such. I mean, the Cascios accepting payments for five years and only when those payments were coming to an end…..THAT’S when they all if the sudden had a ”problem” with their contract with the Estate and wanted more money. Even an idiot can see through THAT. You’re fine for five years living on a payment if almost $700,000 a year, but once the moneytrain is arriving to its final destination…THAT’S when you come up with allegations and have a problem? They most likely got used to a rich life without having to do any work and established that kind of lifestyle and expenses abd weren’t going to give that up. Makes sense if Marie is married to James Porte, why she is also posing as a ”victim”. Porte will never work in the music infustry again after the fake MJ tracks, so makes sense if they are very motivated to get a huge paycheck since they modt likely are broke.
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If I understand correctly, each one of the Cascio siblings received $3.3M + an additional bonus of $690K per year over five years...

If this is correct, that's $6,750,000 total for each one of them for a total of $33,750,000... That's even more money than what the Chandlers got...

I understand why the previous civil settlements took place: the Chandler civil trial was going to take place before the criminal trial, and a Francia civil trial would have compromised the HIStory project.

But this deal w/ the Cascios should never have taken place. Yes, Leaving Neverland (backed by #MeToo) was still fresh, going strong, and winning awards—new group accusations would have been devastating, but that was still not a reason to make millionaires!!!

That's the Jackson family's money!

The Estate lawyers were very naïve to think the Cascios would not keep coming back for more...
 
summer said:
The public opinioin on the Cascios AND on Geragos are extremely low! The public sees the Cascios as grifters and Geragos seems to be seen by the public as a ”slimeball”, ”unethical” and not trustworthy, so let them marinate in that.
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I agree to an extent... Let's keep in mind that Robson & Safechuck weren't widely believed at first. We thought they'd likely go away, and then BOOM!!! Leaving Neverland ...

All of a sudden, even big stars like Barbra Streisand, Sia, Sheryl Crow, Judd Apatow, Rosanna Arquette, and Patricia Arquette started turning on MJ publicly...

Others like John Legend, Rosie, Ellen or Paul McCartney at least expressed some doubt in regard to Jackson.

Certain radio stations suspended Jackson's music, Leaving Neverland won awards, and that allowed the Cascios to make their move—and each one of those siblings is now a millionaire! Whether or not they extort any more money, they're set for life while there are retired people who live on a meager pension, couples out there arguing over twenty dollars...
 
Arckangel said:
If I understand correctly, each one of the Cascio siblings received $3.3M + an additional bonus of $690K per year over five years...
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There you go spreading misinformation and/or making shit up. Those are not rhe correct number. it was 15 mill for all of them total.

Arckangel said:
If this is correct, that's $6,750,000 total for each one of them for a total of $33,750,000... That's even more money than what the Chandlers got...
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Geez you're a liar. You pulled that number out your ass⁸
Arckangel said:
I understand why the previous civil settlements took place: the Chandler civil trial was going to take place before the criminal trial, and a Francia civil trial would have compromised the HIStory project.

But this deal w/ the Cascios should never have taken place. Yes, Leaving Neverland (backed by #MeToo) was still fresh, going strong, and winning awards—new group accusations would have been devastating, but that was still not a reason to make millionaires!!!

That's the Jackson family's money!

The Estate lawyers were very naïve to think the Cascios would not keep coming back for more...
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If they hadn't done it they wouldn't be able to go after them for extortion or force them to stop spreading their lies.
 
AlwaysThere said:
For what it’s worth, the general response isn’t all eye rolling sadly. I’m seeing quite a bit of “just more evidence this guy is guilty” on different corners of the internet. This isn’t nearly enough to turn the tides, but it is absolutely headlining news, as demonstrated by Googling MJ’s name and combing through the top news results.
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Sadly you are correct. I would argue that the timing of this with the Iran war and the Epstein files is actually good for MJ, as those things are bigger news and distracts from the Cascio news. So timing wise it could be worse. It also seems in general that people are skeptical about the accusations because they believe it might be a distraction from the epstein files. And thats not just hardcore MJ fans. But of course its doing damage to the legacy when you have sex trafficking accusations going around on a major scale.

Mostly I think this cements MJ being guilty in the eyes of people who already thought he was guilty or was heavily leaning that he was. I am not sure if it will sway much new people to the guilty side, probably a few but maybe not a decisive blow. Still sucks this had to come just before the biopic.

Overall it seems whatever topic is being discussed there will always be people from both sides of argument battling it out. For example if there would be videos of Donald Trump touching minor girls and I am certain there would be MAGA people trying to defend that or claim its a hoax.

This type of mentality is actually good for MJ as it means even with these Cascio allegations there still going to be people questioning them and thus making the comment sections contested for innocent Vs guilty which is pretty much all we need as it means there is no risk of MJ being cancelled or anything like that. There is so much shit going around that it wont get any better than that sadly!
 
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kelley said:
There you go spreading misinformation and/or making shit up. Those are not rhe correct number. it was 15 mill for all of them total.



Geez you're a liar. You pulled that number out your ass⁸

If they hadn't done it they wouldn't be able to go after them for extortion or force them to stop spreading their lies.
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"Jackson's support system enabled his alleged abuse, the Cascios claim ... and, they went to the Jackson estate for compensation after watching the documentary "Leaving Neverland" -- which they say received. Each of the siblings got $690K per year for five years. They now believe that to be an inadequare sum."

www.tmz.com

Michael Jackson's Former Friends Sue Estate for Sex Trafficking

8:10 PM PT -- Attorney Marty Singer tells TMZ ... “This lawsuit is a desperate money grab by additional members of the Cascio family who have hopped on the bandwagon with their brother Frank, who is already being sued in arbitration for civil extortion.
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@summer wrote above: "You’re fine for five years living on a payment if almost $700,000 a year, but once the moneytrain is arriving to its final destination…" They also got that number from the $690K figure I mentioned.

"As fiduciaries, the executors’ mission is to generate income for Jackson’s beneficiaries. So, they had two goals: preserve the upcoming projects, while shielding his loved ones from further pain of having to endure another round of salacious, unproven allegations. The estate reached a private settlement with the group including $3 million for each of the five individuals. Both sides mutually agreed to keep the agreement under wraps to where even its existence couldn’t be divulged."

Mark Geragos on His Client Frank Cascio vs Michael Jackson

Quite funny to see such a widespread, collective, eye roll response to this. Good to see.
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The estate claims that in January 2020, it "reluctantly" agreed to a confidential settlement with Cascio totaling $3.3 million, explicitly stating no admission of wrongdoing. "Accordingly, in order to prevent Michael’s family members, particularly his children from having to deal with any further false allegations against Michael, and to protect Michael’s valuable legacy, in 2020 MJC reluctantly entered into the Agreement with Respondents," the petition states.


"Comme l’indique la requête, la succession de Michael Jackson a accepté « à contrecœur » de verser à Frank Cascio un dédommagement en 2020 – dont le montant, selon les rapports précédents, s’élevait à 3,3 millions de dollars – sans reconnaître aucune faute et en échange de la promesse que tout litige futur serait tranché par un arbitrage confidentiel. Or, Frank Cascio aurait violé cet accord l’année dernière en menaçant d’engager des poursuites publiques si lui et ses associés ne recevaient pas 213 millions de dollars supplémentaires."

("As the lawsuit alleges, Michael Jackson's estate "reluctantly" agreed to pay Frank Cascio compensation in 2020—reportedly amounting to $3.3 million—without admitting any wrongdoing and in exchange for a promise that any future disputes would be resolved through confidential arbitration. However, Frank Cascio allegedly violated this agreement last year by threatening to launch a public lawsuit if he and his associates did not receive an additional $213 million.")

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L'Estate accuse Frank Cascio d'une tentative d'extorsion de 213 millions de dollars... - MJFrance

Dans une requête en arbitrage soumise à la Cour supérieure du comté de Los Angeles mercredi 9 juillet et obtenue par Billboard , l’Estate identifie Frank Cascio comme l’homme derrière une tentative d’extorsion présumée de 213 millions de dollars signalée l’automne dernier. Des articles de...
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@kelley I typed: "If I understand correctly..." "If this is correct..." "IF" is the keyword here. I used caution in my deduction, and I evidently got my information from published sources. STOP being a toxic pest!

According to the sources above (and other sources), each one of them got $3.3 million each. A source also mentions a bonus of $690K per year being paid to each one of them over five years.

690 000 x 5 = 3 450 000 | 3 300 000 + 3 450 000 = 6 750 000 | This is why I deduced that each Cascio got $6,750,000 so far.

6 750 000 x 5 = 33 750 000 | This is why I deduced that the Cascios, grouped together, got $33,750,000 so far.

And I disagree that the Cascios should have been paid. The Estate could have obtained evidence and exposed them without paying a penny.
 
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Now... Maybe the reported $3 million or $3.3 million of the Jan. 2020 deal is the same as the reported $690K per year over five years. If this is correct, each one of them got $3.45M so far for a total of $17,250,000.

See... I'm just trying to understand things. I'm not stating anything as a fact. Even if I make a mistake, it's not a reason for me to be insulted and disrespected.

@AlwaysThere
 
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