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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

Masonh said:
"How Rodney Jerkins visited Junkyard to create Invincible sounds" ;)
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Nah, it's gonna be: "How Branca sent Michael to send Rodney Jerkins to visit the junkyard to create Invincible sounds."

Masonh said:
And there probably won't be mentioning Michael, talking with mannequins
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Michael said he didn't talk to the mannequins, they just made him feel like he was in a room with people: "I suffered a lot in that way. I knew that something was wrong with me at that time. But I needed someone. . . That’s probably why I had the mannequins. I would say because I felt I needed people, someone, I didn’t have. . . I was too shy to be around real people. I didn’t talk to them. It wasn’t like old ladies talking to plants. But I always thought I wanted something to make me feel like I had company. I always thought, “Why do I have these?” They are like real babies, kids, and people, and it makes me feel like I am in a room with people."
 
I can't tell which is more dramatic this thread or the biopic community on reddit 💀

No offense I feel like people think in absolutes when it comes to this biopic, you have the people that are coping and ignoring the fact that there is a huge possibilty of it being delayed/split by just saying "tabloid lies" even when very credible people like John Campea have confirmed that it is something Lionsgate is heavily considering.

Then the people who got disappointed by this possibility and have acted like this movies quality has dropped and its going to ignore everything that is essential to Michael lol

When we do get an update we will know for sure, yeah I admit my excitement is lower than before but thats mainly due to me accepting this year is not the year for the biopic, I'm still looking forward to the movie(s) whenever it comes out.

Its all about execution of the 2 part idea and the promo campaign for this movie that will dictate success and quality for this production

I read earlier in chat that people are disappointed that this biopic isn't going to reveal new hidden information about MJ, and that it is catered towards general audiences???

You do realize this is a big budget hollywood production trying to get as much money as it can, yeah there are a bunch of us MJ fans the general public are bigger than us 💀, this biopic was never catered to us BUT it has us, his family and his legacy in mind, whilst showing alot of information to the publicthat will shock them due to never being bothered to research Michael or spent most their lives believing wacky rumours about Michael or never really considering him a human. The main point is to make as much money and success as they can but two things can simultaneously happen, the people involved do truely care about Michael and have said all amazing things about Jaafar and the movie, of course its up to our judgement if their assertions are right.

ALSO John Campea is a way more valuable and reliable source than Jeff Sneider, that man has had so much iffy things on his reports and makes the most outlandish claims. He claimed he knew about the 2 part delay before it got reported from deadline?? He was so adamant on them definitely delaying the biopic after the reports came in but now changed his tune and is making somewhat new claims. What most likely happened is either he is jealous someone reported the info before him or he just found out when we did and wants to act as if he knew all along 😭 trust me go through this guys history he is not that respected/reliable.

I understand why everyone is negative about this biopic, the lack of communication from Lionsgate is truly making us lose sanity. Although I have a theory as to why (I can explain some otherday) I genuinely think it doesnt justify this pure silence for their upcoming biggest project of their career.

It's kinda just a shitty situation but its kinda expected with hollywood movies, a Michael Jackson one at that. But I think we should still wait for the inevitavle delay/split announcement and see how it goes from there.
 
Absolute Goon said:
[...] Its all about execution of the 2 part idea [...]
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This is the bit I'm most focused on bc I don't know how easy it is to turn this into a two-parter when the original script and all the production ideas were based around it being a one-off film (afaik). It feels awkward to be drastically re-working this thing this late in the day. But I'm not in the film industry and the production team are all very experienced so maybe it's not as hard to do this as I think it is.

Absolute Goon said:
I read earlier in chat that people are disappointed that this biopic isn't going to reveal new hidden information about MJ, and that it is catered towards general audiences??? [...]
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Ngl, I do find this a bit odd. It's not a documentary and Lionsgate presumably wants the film to be a blockbuster. It's going to be very mainstream.

Absolute Goon said:
I understand why everyone is negative about this biopic,
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Well, not everyone.

The delay is frustrating. If there is any truth in the rumour that the production team didn't know about the clause in the 1994 settlement agreement that is really annoying bc the info is there and it's not hard to find. They did years of research on this thing, I fail to see how they could miss it. If it's supposed to be that Cascio half-story ... well, that doesn't make much sense, either.

Absolute Goon said:
the lack of communication from Lionsgate is truly making us lose sanity. [...]
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The lengthy silence is unhelpful, that's for sure.

Absolute Goon said:
[...] But I think we should still wait for the inevitavle delay/split announcement and see how it goes from there.
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Sure, but people are still going to chat and speculate while they are waiting. If people are losing their sanity over this, as you just said, chucking out random ideas, re-posting photos from the film shoot last year, creating yet another fan-made film poster ... that's how some people are coping. I don't think that's going to change. I think that's how some people are maintaining their interest in this thing.

Blues_Away2023 said:
This movie is for those who know thriller and billie Jean and very little else [...]
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Agreed but as long as they come up with something creative, interesting, exciting and accurate I'd be OK with that.
 
zinniabooklover said:
Ngl, I do find this a bit odd. It's not a documentary and Lionsgate presumably wants the film to be a blockbuster. It's going to be very mainstream.
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I think it is safe to say this, yes. I would assume this means his music will be very much present throughout the movie... a lot of his music... and dance scenes too. And let us not forget his live performances, his wild facial expressions on stage and his rough voice (I'm thinking about MITM Grammy 88). These are the main and the most attractive attributes that will drag masses into the cinemas.

That being said, I do think the movie should be taken advantage of to showcase the scam with the Arvizos and the Chandlers and the other personal dramas that he went through. It is litteraly the biggest platform Michael will ever get and there will be no second chance for that. I think this would be a priority to me rather than including any unpublished songs.
 
I’m looking forward to it. I’m trying to exercise cautious optimism and not get too carried away with my expectations, but then I feel I should have expectations. Why settle for or be happy with mediocrity? MJ didn’t, and that was the point, wasn’t it? To make something great? I really hope they do him proud and deal with as much as is legally possible.
 
Even if they don't touch on a specific legal case there's plenty of ways to positively portray MJ.

His charity, his extensive charity, you could make half the movie about his charity.

His relationship with his family. His early childhood with his brothers, their relationships with groupies (Superfly Sister), his support of his nephew when he was SAed. Etc.

The most notable way would be to portray the story of Billie Jean. The inspiration behind the songs creation, of an obsessed fan who insisted that her child was his. The entire crux of the song, don't believe lies people tell about me, that could be the narrative backbone. Linger on that, call back to it as often as possible. Probably The single most cinematic answer to the question of the controversies of Michael Jackson.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Even if they don't touch on a specific legal case there's plenty of ways to positively portray MJ.

His charity, his extensive charity, you could make half the movie about his charity.

His relationship with his family. His early childhood with his brothers, their relationships with groupies (Superfly Sister), his support of his nephew when he was SAed. Etc.

The most notable way would be to portray the story of Billie Jean. The inspiration behind the songs creation, of an obsessed fan who insisted that her child was his. The entire crux of the song, don't believe lies people tell about me, that could be the narrative backbone. Linger on that, call back to it as often as possible. Probably The single most cinematic answer to the question of the controversies of Michael Jackson.
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Billie Jean is not real person. It's a mix of girls, groupies, who stalked Michael's brothers when he was a child
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Even if they don't touch on a specific legal case there's plenty of ways to positively portray MJ.

His charity, his extensive charity, you could make half the movie about his charity.

His relationship with his family. His early childhood with his brothers, their relationships with groupies (Superfly Sister), his support of his nephew when he was SAed. Etc.

The most notable way would be to portray the story of Billie Jean. The inspiration behind the songs creation, of an obsessed fan who insisted that her child was his. The entire crux of the song, don't believe lies people tell about me, that could be the narrative backbone. Linger on that, call back to it as often as possible. Probably The single most cinematic answer to the question of the controversies of Michael Jackson.
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And they could mention this:

David Nordahl: "Michael would get between 50 and 60 extortion attempts per year. Most of them were paternity. Women claiming that Michael was the father of their child, and a whole bunch of other ones were over music. Somebody had written a song or something and they claimed that Michael had stolen their music or their words. All of those things got thrown out of court because once they got to court, they couldn't back it up."

It would really help people understand why Michael settled the 1993 case. Ordinary people who have never been sued don't understand that he would have had to literally spend his life in court if he had tried to fight off all the people who wanted some of his money. If you don't believe people would lie about something like sexual abuse, can you believe that all those women would lie about a man they never met being the father of their children? And that they would do it even though it can be so easily disproved with a DNA test? For those people who believe all accusations, let them explain how a man they claim never touched a woman and was only interested in little boys was also accused of fathering the children of who knows how many women!
 
etoile 37 said:
And they could mention this:

David Nordahl: "Michael would get between 50 and 60 extortion attempts per year. Most of them were paternity. Women claiming that Michael was the father of their child, and a whole bunch of other ones were over music. Somebody had written a song or something and they claimed that Michael had stolen their music or their words. All of those things got thrown out of court because once they got to court, they couldn't back it up."

It would really help people understand why Michael settled the 1993 case. Ordinary people who have never been sued don't understand that he would have had to literally spend his life in court if he had tried to fight off all the people who wanted some of his money. If you don't believe people would lie about something like sexual abuse, can you believe that all those women would lie about a man they never met being the father of their children? And that they would do it even though it can be so easily disproved with a DNA test? For those people who believe all accusations, let them explain how a man they claim never touched a woman and was only interested in little boys was also accused of fathering the children of who knows how many women!
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@etoile 37 Now you're thinking with portals!
 
So the Estate want to Release a dangerous and history documentary?
 
Fuzball said:
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2025/6 Biopic, OST/GH
2027 Bad 40
2029 OTW 50
2030 HIStory 35
2031 Dangerous 40
2032 Thriller 50
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Update on Biopic and Michael


Jackson projects


Thank you for your continued support of Michael Jackson's legacy.


We continue to hear from many of you about your disappointment with not having any official updates on the Michael biopic. So, we wanted to just let you all know that, just like you, the Online Team continues to ask for information on the film.


Rest assured that once the movie studio, who ultimately controls the release of the information, does provide information and/or assets, we will be sharing that information and/or assets with you!! And, like you, we hope that more details are released very soon.

As hard as it is to remain patient, we try to remind ourselves how Michael could not be rushed when it came to his art and how amazing the results were when he finally released each album, short film, etc. We are hopeful that the additional time and work on the film will serve to make it an even better movie experience for all of us and that our patience will be rewarded in the end with a film that we can all cheer for and celebrate as being Michael-worthy.


We also appreciate that the delays in the release of the biopic have the added impact of delaying the projects the Estate has planned, including well-deserved documentaries for


both Dangerous and HIStory and other projects as well. And while we appreciate and understand the additional disappointment that this causes for us all, we have confirmed that the Estate looks forward to being in a position to restart its efforts with respect to all of the projects that are planned to follow the release of the biopic.


We appreciate your outreach and excitement.


As soon as we have news to share, we will send another email out.

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Statement from MJ Estate
 
Harun said:
Update on Biopic and Michael


Jackson projects


Thank you for your continued support of Michael Jackson's legacy.


We continue to hear from many of you about your disappointment with not having any official updates on the Michael biopic. So, we wanted to just let you all know that, just like you, the Online Team continues to ask for information on the film.


Rest assured that once the movie studio, who ultimately controls the release of the information, does provide information and/or assets, we will be sharing that information and/or assets with you!! And, like you, we hope that more details are released very soon.

As hard as it is to remain patient, we try to remind ourselves how Michael could not be rushed when it came to his art and how amazing the results were when he finally released each album, short film, etc. We are hopeful that the additional time and work on the film will serve to make it an even better movie experience for all of us and that our patience will be rewarded in the end with a film that we can all cheer for and celebrate as being Michael-worthy.


We also appreciate that the delays in the release of the biopic have the added impact of delaying the projects the Estate has planned, including well-deserved documentaries for


both Dangerous and HIStory and other projects as well. And while we appreciate and understand the additional disappointment that this causes for us all, we have confirmed that the Estate looks forward to being in a position to restart its efforts with respect to all of the projects that are planned to follow the release of the biopic.


We appreciate your outreach and excitement.


As soon as we have news to share, we will send another email out.

••


Statement from MJ Estate
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Whatever lol. It’s not like we haven’t been waiting for something since what 2014?
 
Harun said:
Update on Biopic and Michael


Jackson projects


Thank you for your continued support of Michael Jackson's legacy.


We continue to hear from many of you about your disappointment with not having any official updates on the Michael biopic. So, we wanted to just let you all know that, just like you, the Online Team continues to ask for information on the film.


Rest assured that once the movie studio, who ultimately controls the release of the information, does provide information and/or assets, we will be sharing that information and/or assets with you!! And, like you, we hope that more details are released very soon.

As hard as it is to remain patient, we try to remind ourselves how Michael could not be rushed when it came to his art and how amazing the results were when he finally released each album, short film, etc. We are hopeful that the additional time and work on the film will serve to make it an even better movie experience for all of us and that our patience will be rewarded in the end with a film that we can all cheer for and celebrate as being Michael-worthy.


We also appreciate that the delays in the release of the biopic have the added impact of delaying the projects the Estate has planned, including well-deserved documentaries for


both Dangerous and HIStory and other projects as well. And while we appreciate and understand the additional disappointment that this causes for us all, we have confirmed that the Estate looks forward to being in a position to restart its efforts with respect to all of the projects that are planned to follow the release of the biopic.


We appreciate your outreach and excitement.


As soon as we have news to share, we will send another email out.

••


Statement from MJ Estate
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Well, this is one of the updates ever; at least it's an acknowledgement, I guess. I don't like the injection of "Michael could not be rushed when it came to his art"; going by internal sources, the time is being spent altering the original vision of the film, which I don't think Michael would quite be on board with.
The sentiment is understandable, but if they know as little as we do, let's not bring Michael into this until we see the product.
 
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The fact that the Chandler case, and thus the truth, is concealed, while at the same time attempting to stay as close to reality as possible in the depiction of the death, strikes me as inconsistent and downright grotesque.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I'll reserve judgement for now, but I'm not overly keen on the idea of them recreating Michael's death at the residence he actually passed away in.

They did something similar in the film Blonde (Marilyn Monroe biopic) and it was extremely distasteful
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Am I missing something, where's this rumor coming from
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Am I missing something, where's this rumor coming from
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You mean about them filming at Carolwood Dr? Someone posted something about this recently, can't remember who, it'll be a few pages back. There was a film crew outside the property in recent weeks. It hasn't been confirmed afaik, so I'm not convinced it's connected to the biopic - although I can't see what else it could be. There's been some chat online that it might be for a documentary but, then, there's been nothing about that either. I'm reserving judgement on the whole thing until more info emerges. It's all too nebulous atm, imo.
 
someplace_else said:
Even if it IS connected to the Biopic it doesn't have to mean anything negative. It could also be just a scene where the camera shows the house and there will be a voiceover.
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Agreed. For me it only adds authenticity to a film project that seems to be genuinely putting in the work to make this feel real and weighty.

And, if they do include MJ’s death -which I feel they won’t- maybe it has to impact the audience like a thunderbolt, as the journey towards his untimely passing was in large part due to the absolute inhuman way that he was abused and mistreated, and it has to be a cautionary tale, a lesson to be learned for the world to wake up.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I'll reserve judgement for now, but I'm not overly keen on the idea of them recreating Michael's death at the residence he actually passed away in.

They did something similar in the film Blonde (Marilyn Monroe biopic) and it was extremely distasteful
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I understand your concern, but at the same time, let the world see the car crash they created and/or were complicit in. Let them see the raw, human damage of their whims and mistreatment. People need to walk away from this film with a different perspective, and if people find that uncomfortable well then I’m sorry, but ya know, it was a pretty uncomfortable journey for MJ throughout most of his life.
 
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As a fan, I watched the Conrad Murray trial when it streamed live and I read the transcripts from the AEG trial, and at this point, I really don't feel like reliving Michael's death again. But if I look at it from the perspective of someone from the general public, given that Michael died in such an unusual manner, if I went to see the movie and they just skipped that, I would feel like I was not told the full story, especially if I was too young at the time of his death to have seen that moment in real time. And when you consider that in 20 years from now, people who were not born during his lifetime will most likely still be watching that movie to learn about his life, then you can see it's important to tell the whole story, because they will want to know how he died.
 
etoile 37 said:
As a fan, I watched the Conrad Murray trial when it streamed live and I read the transcripts from the AEG trial, and at this point, I really don't feel like reliving Michael's death again. But if I look at it from the perspective of someone from the general public, given that Michael died in such an unusual manner, if I went to see the movie and they just skipped that, I would feel like I was not told the full story, especially if I was too young at the time of his death to have seen that moment in real time. And when you consider that in 20 years from now, people who were not born during his lifetime will most likely still be watching that movie to learn about his life, then you can see it's important to tell the whole story, because they will want to know how he died.
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Fair answer
 
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