"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

What’s with this pro-everything narrative in regards to the biopic? It reeks of the “Michael” album discussion back in the day, and we see where that got us. Skepticism is a healthy thing, especially with Michael products.

Negative does not equal realistic; I trust their source. It is what it is. I was beyond ecstatic for the biopic, now cautiously optimistic, at least in their coverage of the allegations.

No we must all be pro everything or you are a fake fan!!!!

(joking ofc)

I was mainly just saying that MJCasts information doesn't mean that the biopic is officially doomed, but I agree that we should just wait to see what Lionsgate is cooking before we all make our judgements now
 
We somehow got a new shot from the photos from last year, reason I think it's new is because we never saw Bill in the background with those original photos

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Regardless of all the controversy/secrecy around these delays and reshoots, is anyone else getting flashbacks to that horrible Man In The Mirror TV movie?

That "movie" depicted Michael during the police strip search if I remember correctly. If the MJCast is correct, I think that is horrendously distasteful to depict Michael at his lowest for the sake of a "story" . Just my thoughts
 
Two weeks until Cinemacon. If there is no update/teaser/trailer there will be no biopic this year IMO. Six months out from the supposed release date, there HAS to be something come out then (if it is indeed still being released in Oct).

Let's all have our fingers crossed for good news 🤞
 
Regardless of all the controversy/secrecy around these delays and reshoots, is anyone else getting flashbacks to that horrible Man In The Mirror TV movie?

That "movie" depicted Michael during the police strip search if I remember correctly. If the MJCast is correct, I think that is horrendously distasteful to depict Michael at his lowest for the sake of a "story" . Just my thoughts
i dont think the strip search being shown in a biopic like this is 'distasteful' as its just a true uncomfortable moment that michael unfortunately had to endure, this movie is being done by professionals and there is alot of care for it, michael had many low points and it will be showed in the movie since he was a human, he didnt always have high points in his life. if they include it i think ita essential to show how fucked up the search was and to create sympathy for michael
 
Two weeks until Cinemacon. If there is no update/teaser/trailer there will be no biopic this year IMO. Six months out from the supposed release date, there HAS to be something come out then (if it is indeed still being released in Oct).

Let's all have our fingers crossed for good news 🤞
i don't agree
 
Two weeks until Cinemacon. If there is no update/teaser/trailer there will be no biopic this year IMO. Six months out from the supposed release date, there HAS to be something come out then (if it is indeed still being released in Oct).

Let's all have our fingers crossed for good news 🤞
They had a teaser last year and the movie was postponed anyway
 
i dont think the strip search being shown in a biopic like this is 'distasteful' as its just a true uncomfortable moment that michael unfortunately had to endure, this movie is being done by professionals and there is alot of care for it, michael had many low points and it will be showed in the movie since he was a human, he didnt always have high points in his life. if they include it i think ita essential to show how fucked up the search was and to create sympathy for michael
I think it's distasteful taking the lowest point in Michael's life and using that as the anchor for sympathy in a dramatisation of his life.
That's my feelings on it
 
I think it's distasteful taking the lowest point in Michael's life and using that as the anchor for sympathy in a dramatisation of his life.
That's my feelings on it

i dont really think its the central point of the movie, if so that would be distasteful, but they will show it because it is the truth and it is something that happened
 
I'm sorry, but why would they rewrite and reshoot the core of the movie because of the Cascios thing? What difference would it make for the Cascios? And wasn't it because there was an old deal the Estate "forgot" about it involving the Chandlers? haha

The old deal sounds weird but reshooting because of the Cascios, that's just insane. Maybe they did rewrite the movie in a way, but I don't think that's the reason for it at all.
 
I'm sorry, but why would they rewrite and reshoot the core of the movie because of the Cascios thing? What difference would it make for the Cascios? And wasn't it because there was an old deal the Estate "forgot" about it involving the Chandlers? haha

The old deal sounds weird but reshooting because of the Cascios, that's just insane. Maybe they did rewrite the movie in a way, but I don't think that's the reason for it at all.

i think the reshoots werent due to the cascios being in the movie, but moreso lionsgate thinking that the estate could be hiding more allegations/ or some huge bombshell could hinder the biopics performance
 
i think the reshoots werent due to the cascios being in the movie, but moreso lionsgate thinking that the estate could be hiding more allegations/ or some huge bombshell could hinder the biopics performance
But do you think that "removing" the allegations from the movie would make accusers more ok with it? The accusers want money. if they are going to go after that, they will do it wether it has the allegations in it or not.

The first rumor about an old deal with the Chandlers makes much more sense then this, wven though I don't really buy it either.
 
That's why I was telling y'all to wait and not to think too hard and to not go into doom and gloom regarding the movie.

Credible sources who have access to people involved in the movie or to MJ's world or family, first said the movie was gonna end in 1988, then it was gonna end right before the allegations, then it was gonna cover all his life, then it wasn't gonna focus on the allegations, then the allegations were the main pillar of the plot.

Maybe something happened that required the delay but the reason why must have been twisted to the nth degree by now. Everyone is coming out with a different reason why and probably it's none of them.
 
That's why I was telling y'all to wait and not to think too hard and to not go into doom and gloom regarding the movie.

Credible sources who have access to people involved in the movie or to MJ's world or family, first said the movie was gonna end in 1988, then it was gonna end right before the allegations, then it was gonna cover all his life, then it wasn't gonna focus on the allegations, then the allegations were the main pillar of the plot.

Maybe something happened that required the delay but the reason why must have been twisted to the nth degree by now. Everyone is coming out with a different reason why and probably it's none of them.
A very plausable reason for the delay from April to October could be about entering festivals and having a better chance for the 2026 Oscars. I think we will have a much better idea about all of this in April.
 
A very plausable reason for the delay from April to October could be about entering festivals and having a better chance for the 2026 Oscars. I think we will have a much better idea about all of this in April.
Fair point but this argument always makes me think: so why not just go for an autumn release to begin with? :unsure:

There seem to be two thoughts on this:
1 - release your film in March / April, there won't be loads of other new films out at that time = less competition = you'll have a better chance at cleaning up at the box office
2 - release the thing in the autumn and you'll have a better chance with festival screenings / award nominations, especially the Oscars

If you wanted to go for No.2 why not just focus on that straightaway? Just seems a bit odd to me. 🤷🏽‍♀️
 
Fair point but this argument always makes me think: so why not just go for an autumn release to begin with? :unsure:

There seem to be two thoughts on this:
1 - release your film in March / April, there won't be loads of other new films out at that time = less competition = you'll have a better chance at cleaning up at the box office
2 - release the thing in the autumn and you'll have a better chance with festival screenings / award nominations, especially the Oscars

If you wanted to go for No.2 why not just focus on that straightaway? Just seems a bit odd to me. 🤷🏽‍♀️
Maybe the execs or producers more and more believed the movie had an Oscar chance as production went along and the dailies were looking good.

There was some article tidbit that a Lionsgate exec was buying shares because he felt really excited about the Michael movie.
 
Maybe the execs or producers more and more believed the movie had an Oscar chance as production went along and the dailies were looking good.
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There was some article tidbit that a Lionsgate exec was buying shares because he felt really excited about the Michael movie.
Yeah, I think that was round about the same time as CinemaCon last year, iirc. There was a lot of fuss bc people thought it was a good sign.

We just have to 'Keep The Faith', I guess! :)
 
I haven't seen nothing about frank delio in the film & he was with Michael everywhere in the 80s just like bill
 
We haven't seen Janet or Randy either
I don't think Janet or Randy will be vital characters, I'm sure they will be characterized in the background or within shots, either very minimal dialogue or nothing at all, mainly just referencing them throughout the movie, this is mainly due to Janet/Randys feud with the estate, and also the biopic deciding to use Latoya as the main sister for Michael
 
But do you think that "removing" the allegations from the movie would make accusers more ok with it? The accusers want money. if they are going to go after that, they will do it wether it has the allegations in it or not.

The first rumor about an old deal with the Chandlers makes much more sense then this, wven though I don't really buy it either.

i just kinda think it was more so about the tone and attention they were giving the allegations, i dont think lionsgate really asked them to remove the allegations, they probably got scared and asked them to not put that much focus on the allegations bc according to what was said, the 93 case was a huge part of the movie, it starts with the 93 case being the first part and the whole 3rd act is about the 93 case, so lionsgate most likely told them to calm it down

that being said recently i posted something about a source close to the production that denied both claims about the alleged chandler deal and the cascio thing, so realistically nothing huge is going on behind the scenes, just mainly speculations from fans and also the media lying and blowing everything outta proportion
 
i just kinda think it was more so about the tone and attention they were giving the allegations, i dont think lionsgate really asked them to remove the allegations, they probably got scared and asked them to not put that much focus on the allegations bc according to what was said, the 93 case was a huge part of the movie, it starts with the 93 case being the first part and the whole 3rd act is about the 93 case, so lionsgate most likely told them to calm it down

that being said recently i posted something about a source close to the production that denied both claims about the alleged chandler deal and the cascio thing, so realistically nothing huge is going on behind the scenes, just mainly speculations from fans and also the media lying and blowing everything outta proportion
Those puck reports were false as some of us thought initially. Pretty sure all that will happen is just the father being portrayed for extorting Michael with no mention about the family itself beyond that
 
i just kinda think it was more so about the tone and attention they were giving the allegations, i dont think lionsgate really asked them to remove the allegations, they probably got scared and asked them to not put that much focus on the allegations bc according to what was said, the 93 case was a huge part of the movie, it starts with the 93 case being the first part and the whole 3rd act is about the 93 case, so lionsgate most likely told them to calm it down

that being said recently i posted something about a source close to the production that denied both claims about the alleged chandler deal and the cascio thing, so realistically nothing huge is going on behind the scenes, just mainly speculations from fans and also the media lying and blowing everything outta proportion
Making such significant changes to the movie would surely require a lot of input into what was already filmed, thus considerably raising the cost of the movie. Does that even make sense??

Damn... If it turns out they wasted this opportunity for a final countdown with the Chandlers, there will likely never be another!!
 
Making such significant changes to the movie would surely require a lot of input into what was already filmed, thus considerably raising the cost of the movie. Does that even make sense??

Damn... If it turns out they wasted this opportunity for a final countdown with the Chandlers, there will likely never be another!!
There's no reliable reports about the Allegations being the third act, those claims were refused by Lionsgate
 
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