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I thought this was good...

A body language expert has been analyzing celebrity's body languages on youtube and he's done a series on MJ - and he thinks MJ was innocent and that he was a generally truthful person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Yp1GZ05P8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4gD1I_fqJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PitnGsnEfl4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BupgDNg2mIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVDQgU6ptic

There's a lot of interesting little things he's picked up on, and I like that he picks up on things that the fans have noticed but the non-fans tend to dismiss.

He's on facebook too if you want to ask him anything:

http://www.facebook.com/cjbaxx

Grr, don't know how to post a youtube link here so you have to click on them to watch there...
 
la_cienega said:
I thought this was good...

A body language expert has been analyzing celebrity's body languages on youtube and he's done a series on MJ - and he thinks MJ was innocent and that he was a generally truthful person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Yp1GZ05P8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4gD1I_fqJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PitnGsnEfl4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BupgDNg2mIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVDQgU6ptic

There's a lot of interesting little things he's picked up on, and I like that he picks up on things that the fans have noticed but the non-fans tend to dismiss.

He's on facebook too if you want to ask him anything:

http://www.facebook.com/cjbaxx

Grr, don't know how to post a youtube link here so you have to click on them to watch there...
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Thanks for posting these, I've watched them all and I wanna watch more! Fascinating.
 
CaptainEoLove85;3452764 said:
Interesting, I've seen these videos around on youtube, but I didn't know if they were positive or not. I'll have to check them out.
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It's great because he isn't a fan in the community like us, he's just a body language expert who decided to analyze some of MJ's body language and he's come to the same conclusions we have!

I recommend watching some of the other videos he's done too, like the Ian Huntley one and some of the other ones, because you can see the contrast in body language in those people when they they were lying or covering up stuff, and Michael's.

He's responded to some comments too, for example he says in the part where Mike says he had sex with Debbie in the Bashir doc that Michael was telling the truth there too.

Understanding Body Language. Liars, Cheats and Happy Feet [!]

Man I hate Bashir! This is a really good video, never seen the unedited stuff before!

It would suggest from those particular gestures, expressions and movements MJ gives off that he is telling the truth. He doesn't make an emblematic slip (saying a number verbally, but give the wrong matching finger gesture) at 5:27 – and at 5:30 we see an open palm gesture come into play. (Hallmark of honesty) at 5:39 we see another emblem (Stop sign made with the hand) ( I do believe the full expression is that is " shut the f... up Bashir!" ) MJ goes to make a pacifying hand to face gesture at 5:40, but Bashir’s unrelenting barrage of personal questions means his hands didn’t make it to his head (he stops the movement because his limbic response is to keep the hands lowered to fend off an attack) it’s a natural ANS (autonomic nervous system) response to stress.

The double “ yes, yes” response from MJ at the end is also a classic characteristic of honest language. Hope that helps Maree!

Kind Regards,

CJB
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And he doesn't like Bashir or Sawyer much either because he thinks they have terrible interviewing techniques...
 
yay! I always thought that a professional who knows about body language could help MJ a lot because there are certain muscles moves and micro expressions that people can't recreate, unless they're professional liars or psychopaths . I have read several books about body language and it's fascinating.Thanks a lot for the links.
 
Just watched all of his MJ videos and I agree it's fascinating. I think haters should watch these vids, but they'd still probably turn a blind eye in ignorance. :smilerolleyes: Subscribed to his youtube channel and "liked" his FB page. I think he should do one on Sneddon.
 
interesting - when he said Michael is being honest/truthful
I said the same thing back in 1994 when I watched how he responded to that nasty question

 
I thought it was interesting on the "contemplating a punishment" thing, because up until then it had never occurred to him.

But the part about Lisa frowning over the "4 months" thing, he seems to suggest that she was lying in some way about their relationship, when in reality she's just lying about how long they dated. Which is funny, 'cause she shows it right on her face that they had been dating longer than 4 months, which she later admitted.
 
Yeah, I have to look away when his voice starts breaking :(

Breaks my heart even more knowing how nobody believed him...
 
Thanks for posting this, he's done a really good job describing things. Its interesting that he said things that I always thought but couldn't put words too.

I would love to see him do one of LMP in her recent Oprah interview.
 
i love his analysis. someone on youtube posted a link to another analysts that claim totally the oposite....regards to MJ. and what she wrote is totally bias and stupid. but what this guy says make sense.
 
Here's another from his Facebook :D

[YouTube]EmS5bFSutcI&feature=player_embedded#at=347[/YouTube]
 
I don't agree with some parts of his analysis in this video:



He keeps on saying that Michael & Lisa are flashing "looks of disgust" to each other, which I don't see at all. In my opinion, he got this whole video wrong (except the parts where he said MJ was clearly innocent). When Lisa scrunched up her face, I think she was just trying to recall some dates/events. And as one of the comments below the video say, at 2:33, that definitely wasn't Michael flashing a look of "classic anger and disgust" at Lisa...lol. Just the opposite. He was smiling a naughty smile & looked like he was checkin' her out - at least that's what I always thought. What do you all think? That quick lip bite & lowering of the eyes has always been considered a "look of desire" (as the comment says) within the fan community, hasn't it?

I don't think he analysed Michael & Lisa's relationship correctly in this.
 
^^ yeah I agree with you...that's the only part I didn't agree with him ...not that I'm a body language expert, but anyone can figure out that wasn't disgust...it seemed to me Lisa was just trying to remember something...I don't get where the disgust comes from...they wer both clearly playful in that video, especially Michael :)
 
LISA WAS LYING in that little part, and I guess we know why :)laugh:)
I also have read a lot about body language and I also have documentaries about that subject. I don't know what that guy believes about that marriage but in that tiny part Lisa was obviously lying. She even wrote songs about "destroying her own family" because of certain person. They were dating way before that but it wouldn't sound right to discuss that in public, that was it.

About Lisa's gesture:

http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/nose_body_language.htm
Wrinkled nose: The nose can be wrinkled by pushing up from the mouth. This happens when a bad smell is detected. It can also appear with a metaphoricbad smell is thought about, for example when somebody else suggests a distasteful idea (see: even language uses bad-taste metaphor!). Another variation is when the person is thinking about something but is not satisfied with their own ideas.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2273490_read-truth-body-language.html
Curling the lips downward at the corners and wrinkling the nose are body language signs of deceit. These gestures can be small and fleeting, but noticing them will help you read whether the person is being truthful.

http://www.hodu.com/lying.shtml
Micro gestures: According to Paul Ekman, professor of psychology at the University of California, San Francisco, two of the most common micro gestures that are associated with deceit are the nose wrinkle and the mouth curl.
The nose wrinkle is the same gesture that occurs naturally when you smell something offensive. The other facial micro gesture is a slight downward curl of the corners of the mouth.



I have a documentary where professor Paul Ekman is speaking about this.

But anyway, I have to defend the fact that CJ provided more material to demonstrate MJ's innocence :yes:
 
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ForeverKOP said:
I don't agree with some parts of his analysis in this video:



He keeps on saying that Michael & Lisa are flashing "looks of disgust" to each other, which I don't see at all. In my opinion, he got this whole video wrong (except the parts where he said MJ was clearly innocent). When Lisa scrunched up her face, I think she was just trying to recall some dates/events.
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Actually, I think he picked up a good point on Lisa screwing up her face when she talks about "4 months" of being together, because it was a lie. But they both wanted to not make it seem like she'd cheated on her husband. I mean, in that same interview she says she was gonna fly out to meet him in Puerto Rico 1993 which was in November, 2 months before she claims she separated from her husband! And in later interviews she admitted the romance had started before the allegations... so I do think he picked up something with that, he just didn't realize what it revealed.

Lucilla explained it before me. But yes, if anything it just proves this body language expert was right - she lied! He picked up on it. He just assumed probably because of all the media brainwashing that it was a sign she was lying about them being together as a proper couple, when it was about something else. But he did catch the lie.

And yeah, I don't think that was contempt Mike gave her LOL!

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I think he should analyze the parts where Lisa talks about why she loves him, how it's not fake and how they have sex... I'm a fan of body language and though I'm no expert, I think it's obvious she's telling the truth there. There's also this...

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^ @lucilla & @la_cienega
Yeah, I agree with both of you on that part - she was definitely caught lying about the timing! And Mike kinda just steered away from the question saying "I don't remember" when Diane asked when the dating started...LOL! WE CAUGHT YOU GUYS! :D

So yeah, that part I'm cool with - he just doesn't know how to explain it very well in his video & calls it "disgust" because he probably doesn't know much about their relationship.

But, I still can't let go of the "moment of desire" (one of the highlights of this interview) being translated into something it's not. La_cienega, you've expressed that you don't think that was contempt that Mike gave her (totally agree) - what do you think Lucilla?
 
Wow, i'm both humbled and honoured to see my videos discussed! Thank you so much! MJ was innocent, and i'm going to do what i can to prove just that. : ) CJB
 
His eyes go from her crotch across her body and up her chest. It looks like he's biting his lip to keep from grinning.

LOL! And then at the end of the interview look how fast he is to get in there to take off her mic...

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Bodylanguage said:
Wow, i'm both humbled and honoured to see my videos discussed! Thank you so much! MJ was innocent, and i'm going to do what i can to prove just that. : ) CJB
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Hey CJ! Welcome to the forum :D

Thanks so much for your videos, you've given us a lot to discuss ;)
 
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