Michael Jackson To Unleash World Premiere Experience At Billboard Music Awards

[Zack44]

For me personally, it was the little things during the performance that irked me the most. For instance, I felt like the band in the background was there for show and was unnecessary, the hologram did much more spins that I feel the real MJ would have done in a single number, his socks weren't his trademark white, some moves looked off but some looked accurate, etc.

But I will give credit where credit is due. The whole setup (especially the weird costumes of the dancers) seemed very reminiscent of something from one of the Cirque shows, and the choreography of the real dancers was elaborate and well-done. This whole hologram business took so long to actually put together amidst all of the lawsuits, so it's amazing that they were able to pull it off at all. Overall, the execution definitely had its flaws, but it absolutely succeeded in its goal to get people's attention and hopefully spark enough interest to propel the new album to the #1 spot in MJ's own home country, especially since the USA in general isn't really as grateful to MJ as the rest of the world is.

 

[Gold Pants Girl]

INCORRECT!

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/companies-sue-jackson-hologram-23752950

http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/16/billboard-music-awards-alki-david-michael-jackson-hologram-lawsuit/

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-lives-judge-tells-patent-holders-to-beat-it/


Literally every article that spoke of it, prior to the actual perfomance, announced it as a hologram.

As I said, nowhere was it announced as being a hologram, the media used the word and fans ran with it. I still call it a hologram cuz I'm not sure what to call it exactly. But don't blame others for your misunderstanding.

 

[Gold Pants Girl]

I don't know if he worded it weirdly but it sure seemed that way check out my post here with all his tweets
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...wards/page65?p=4009550&viewfull=1#post4009550

It was worded in a way that it could easily been misunderstood, but he never said it was being used as the performance. And fans are taking it way too far calling him a liar. Robin has always been supportive of MJ, he was even invited to a lunch meeting with MJ and Kenny back in 2007.

 

[myosotis]

For me personally, it was the little things during the performance that irked me the most. For instance, I felt like the band in the background was there for show and was unnecessary, the hologram did much more spins that I feel the real MJ would have done in a single number, his socks weren't his trademark white, some moves looked off but some looked accurate, etc.

But I will give credit where credit is due. The whole setup (especially the weird costumes of the dancers) seemed very reminiscent of something from one of the Cirque shows, and the choreography of the real dancers was elaborate and well-done. This whole hologram business took so long to actually put together amidst all of the lawsuits, so it's amazing that they were able to pull it off at all. Overall, the execution definitely had its flaws, but it absolutely succeeded in its goal to get people's attention and hopefully spark enough interest to propel the new album to the #1 spot in MJ's own home country, especially since the USA in general isn't really as grateful to MJ as the rest of the world is.

I thought they were Cirque dancers...? I thought the decorative 'suns' around the stage setting were meant to be symbolic of 'Cirque du soleil'?

 

[Paris78]

Access Hollywood ‏@accesshollywood 6 h.

#MichaelJacksonHologram: @LizHernandez was exclusively at the top secret rehearsals to see how it was done. WATCH: http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael-jackson-hologram-howd-they-do-that-exclusive_video_2168937 …

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@jackiejackson5 Look how Twitter responded to your brother's illusion on last night's @Billboard Music Awards https://vine.co/v/MH1WehPAzFn

Janet Jackson ‏@JanetJackson 8 h.
My brother, Michael, was, is and always will be a genius. I love you, Mike. Janet

 

[Tygger]

Estate/Sony felt their handiwork was so grand they placed the video on Vevo immediately using different camera angles and shots. Considering the issues the Vevo channel had with LNFSG solo and the Bad25 homepage, I do not know if I should be amused or angered.

The dance break was hilarious IMO

Agreed!

So is no one missing that expression of emotion when you see an impersonator or hologram or whatever 'dance ' to STTR? There's dance and dance.

This is why I asked did anyone feel the magic watching whatever that was on Billboard’s stage and I did not receive a response. I do not believe anyone can honestly say they felt any type of magic from Billboard compared to any performance of Michael Jackson live; including the lackluster performances from Michael during History that Kreen was to post (still waiting for those).

Jackson Family lawyer John Branca said the costly hologram was in the works since late 2013. He also told The Hollywood Reporter (presumably with a straight face?) that, "It's so important to experience Michael Jackson in a live setting."

Indeed to the bolded portion. If no one felt the magic, then the supposed purpose of this stunt as per the statement Branca made above (straight face or not) was not served.

There's more support for the new technology cause the possibilities are endless with this new thing (call it Hologram/CGI/or walala) while MJ's studio shots, unreleased videos etc... they already got that and just want to use it in a smart way for documentaries, videos and specials

Invalid comparison, considering that Branca's idea was to set this as a live performance of a never before released song.. it could have been a lot worse, plus they have high def shows from each tour, short film, various studio footage & more yet, you don't see anyone comparing posthumous projects here do you? no. There'll be more in the future, thing's will be developed further, this is just the beginning, you have to remember.. it's only been 5 years. That is all.

In fact the Spike Lee-docu was in television in many countries worldwide to best telvision-time and get also attention on the film-festival in Cannes. Did you expect it should be shown in a award-show?

Darkmed, Zakk, Annita, this technology was simply used for the promotion of a cd. There are many ways to promote a cd. Bad25 was promoted with the Spike Lee documentary which respectfully put the focus on Michael as an artist and the process of creating that art. We know that despite that effort, the sales of Bad25 were dismal.

I fear Estate/Sony took that as a financial lesson: the masses were not interested in the artistry of Michael Jackson so no need to promote it which is truly unfortunate. With Xscape, that respect was relegated to a 20+ minute dvd and short clips on YT. Not even a photo of Michael behind the microphone during a recording session of any of the eight songs. However; L.A. Reid, Timbaland, and Jerkins went on a media tour discussing Michael as an artist and the reasoning behind Xscape and that was amazing (and welcoming) to view.

The sales of the Bad concert dvd (did anyone ever learn how many units were sold?) showed the preference, a.k.a. profit, was in Michael performing regardless of the video quality. To promote Xscape, Estate/Sony created a performance that Michael did not do because that is where the preference seems to be. Even if it is not Michael Jackson, it can be billed as a Michael Jackson experience, a.k.a. performance and the masses will watch and maybe purchase a cd. The whole MJ experience was a disrespectful spectacle in my view. I can create a list of what I found disrespectful however; I see no purpose in doing so. I will simply say I do not believe Michael would do anything done in that lackluster performance and I find it weird that some of his fans accept the portrayal of Michael as a lackluster performer.

Did it work? The charts will tell however; the ends do not always justify the means so it does not matter to me. Xscape did not have to be promoted at Billboard and surely not in that manner. Xscape was number one in 50+ countries BEFORE this stunt. I truly hope this stunt never happens again.

If performances are that important to Branca, put the energies in distributing concert performances Michael actually completed at visual quality befitting Michael's performances. Put the focus back on Michael’s artistry where it belongs!

 

[kristinaz]

It was worded in a way that it could easily been misunderstood, but he never said it was being used as the performance. And fans are taking it way too far calling him a liar. Robin has always been supportive of MJ, he was even invited to a lunch meeting with MJ and Kenny back in 2007.

I never said he didn't like MJ quite obvious he was/is a huge fan but it seemed like he lied maybe i jumped too quickly maybe I should have thought about it better. Seems more obvious now he maybe misunderstood the info he was originally given hence why he maybe worded it incorrectly.I'm just glad this has since been corrected in his new article.

 

[Tygger]

It was worded in a way that it could easily been misunderstood, but he never said it was being used as the performance. And fans are taking it way too far calling him a liar. Robin has always been supportive of MJ, he was even invited to a lunch meeting with MJ and Kenny back in 2007.

Almost forgot this...

Leach has been very supportive of Michael as I can remember. Leach only wrote what he was told. He will most likely not reveal his source and so he will suffer the embarrassment.

Unfortunately, someone has to be blamed for the disappointment some may feel regarding Billboard and Estate/Sony's mismanagement of their expectations of the experience. Leach seems to be a convenient target.

 

[kristinaz]

Almost forgot this...

Leach has been very supportive of Michael as I can remember. Leach only wrote what he was told. He will most likely not reveal his source and so he will suffer the embarrassment.

Unfortunately, someone has to be blamed for the disappointment some may feel regarding Billboard and Estate/Sony's mismanagement of their expectations. Leach seems to be a convenient target.

Which is why I'm saying now that things are becoming more clear he didn't lie it was just bad info or a small misunderstanding by him in the info he did receive hence why the info was corrected today.

 

[bluesky]

As I said, nowhere was it announced as being a hologram, the media used the word and fans ran with it. I still call it a hologram cuz I'm not sure what to call it exactly. But don't blame others for your misunderstanding.

i think people just use hologram as a common term now whether it's a true hologram or not.

but on the BillBoard official program they called - an MJ Experience or MJ Illusion

 

[SmoothMJ]

I loved it. The majority of people across the world who watched it loved it.

I like being in the majority.

:cheeky:

 

[bluesky]

quoted

Originally Posted by Chamife
So is no one missing that expression of emotion when you see an impersonator or hologram or whatever 'dance ' to STTR? There's dance and dance.



This is why I asked did anyone feel the magic watching whatever that was on Billboard’s stage and I did not receive a response. I do not believe anyone can honestly say they felt any type of magic from Billboard compared to any performance of Michael Jackson live; including the lackluster performances from Michael during History that Kreen was to post (still waiting for those).


YOu can expect they do it better next time, but it's still computer generated so there will be no "emotion"

 

[Tygger]

Which is why I'm saying now that things are becoming more clear he didn't lie it was just bad info or a small misunderstanding by him in the info he did receive hence why the info was corrected today.

No problem here. There are a few posts that are insulting towards Leach and I personally do not feel he should be targeted for anyone's disappointments with whatever that was.

The majority of people across the world who watched it loved it.

Oh? Is that so?

YOu can expect they do it better next time, but it's still computer generated so there will be no "emotion"[/I]

I prefer there is not a next time. However, is there no other method to truly experience Michael in a live setting without this experience? Why does anyone have to truly experience Michael in a live setting almost five years after his passing?

 

[MJRemixer]

It's true no one could recreate MJ, but why making misleading advertisems for that show? It was announced as a hologram, not the case. Containing never before seen footage, Michael wasn't present in any moment.

I saw what it was done with Tupac and Madonna, I couldn't believe they weren't able to do the same for Michael. No matter how much good press it gets, it was mediocre and crappy attempt to present him.

2Pac would be easy he doesnt dance he just swings his arms around easy to animate MJ is different, Madonna would have been pre-recorded same with the black eyed peas when they used holograms of 2 band members that wasnt there fergie being one of them

 

[bluesky]

No problem here. There are a few posts that are insulting towards Leach and I personally do not feel he should be targeted for anyone's disappointments with whatever that was.



Oh? Is that so?



I prefer there is not a next time. However, is there no other method to truly experience Michael in a live setting without this experience? Why does anyone have to truly experience Michael in a live setting almost five years after his passing?

I am not sure but they probably did this to promote the song - Slave ....

or they have to use another singer to promote like JT.

 

[Tygger]

I am not sure but they probably did this to promote the song - Slave ....

or they have to use another singer to promote like JT.

They could not use another singer because the other singer was Bieber and some fans disliked the duet partner chosen. Not the mix, the lyrics, Michael's vocals, etc., just the duet partner.

L.A. Reid said it was not decided that this was the next single so the promotion was for the cd, Xscape.

 

[kristinaz]

My local news just called it a hologram ugh wish they did their research oh well whatever close enough the general public prob don't even realize the difference I didn't before last night

 

[bluesky]

They could not use another singer because the other singer was Bieber and some fans disliked the duet partner chosen. Not the mix, the lyrics, Michael's vocals, etc., just the duet partner.

L.A. Reid said it was not decided that this was the next single so the promotion was for the cd, Xscape.

Since the song is already aired and viewed by millions - it should be the single

 

[kristinaz]

No problem here. There are a few posts that are insulting towards Leach and I personally do not feel he should be targeted for anyone's disappointments with whatever that was

Oh ok good I just wanted to clear it all up cause I jumped the gun a bit early on after the performance I think cause so much info was being jumbled about I got confused but now more things make sense so I wanted to clear it up and apologize for so quickly blaming Robin when I shouldn't have I should have put into consideration what a big MJ fan he is so he wouldn't lie on purpose just he's been wrong a few times with some other artists that's why

 

[AngelMJ136]

My local news just called it a hologram ugh wish they did their research oh well whatever close enough the general public prob don't even realize the difference I didn't before last night

At least they reported about it. My newspaper didn't even mention anything about MJ yet printed about every other artist's performance in the Billboards with huge pictures. :mat: I am sure he is in other publications, hopefully.

But it was great to see this on my facebook.

 

[kristinaz]

At least they reported about it. My newspaper didn't even mention anything about MJ yet printed about every other artist's performance in the Billboards with huge pictures. :mat: I am sure he is in other publications, hopefully.

But it was great to see this on my facebook.

That sucks I'm surprised been hearing bout it all day on various channels. Yeah our station went around asking people if they thought it was cool or creepy got mixed answers tbh though that's cool about the Facebook thing I didn't see it on mine sadly must have missed it

 

[SmoothMJ]

I think one of the reasons I enjoyed it is, I wasn't expecting it to be Michael.

The image was a 'representation' of MJ. It was a 'vehicle' to keep his name, his music, his talent, in the spotlight.

Looking at the live audience reaction, the positive media coverage, the majority of comments from social media, I would say it was a massive success.

Well done everybody involved. This 'Xscape' project has been a massive success. :bow:

 

[Allusio]

I see nothing wrong that L.A. Reid, Timbaland, and Jerkins went on a media tour discussing Michael as an artist and the reasoning behind Xscape … we need this information too !!! And it is about Michael too. Of course we all would like some unseen videos with Michael … But it is only the beginning of promotion, I would not expect everything to be done at once with no surprises for the next months. We need to wait to see what will come.
I see some fans so easily dismissed all the work that was done with the “hologram”. I would say it is only one step and something new was created – yes, improvement is needed but I really would like to hear someone’s opinion from the audience. IMO there it WAS MAGICAL.

 

[MJresearcher]

There was briefly a parody twitter account "Hologram Mike", it brought a bit of comic relief instead of all the fighting about who liked it and who didn't.

 

[Dorian]

 

[Virre]

^^
That is not the real Prince Jackson.

 

[SmoothMJ]

Good for Prince! :clapping:

 

[HIStoric]

That's not Prince. His Twitter account is 'princemjjjaxon' (without the 's' on the end) and it is also verified.

 

[Bubs]

I think they made a mistake in hyping this performance up in the lead up, I believe it may have given some fans an unrealistic expectation. As far as the face goes to me it looks like a Michael that I would expect to see on a computer game and perhaps that is as good as it gets on this technology, I don't know I'm not an expert, but given what it is then unless someone shows me how much better that could have been done then I can accept it and appreciate it.

I see some people on twitter and it's almost like they were expecting a clone to come out.

Love STTR and I'm glad it was showcased.

I understand what you are saying, but I don't know where the line goes for hyping too much, or not hyping enough?
They couldn't advertise this happening something like this: "History in making, MJ hologram, but "hard core" fans, don't get your expectations too high."
"They" possibly cannot know how much can they release "hype" so that "hard core" fans don't get overly hyped . If people had their expectations too high, it is their own fault, and they cannot handle disappointment in adult manner. This (imo) is not "their"(I assume you meant the estate and BB) fault.

 

[L.T.D]

I loved it. The majority of people across the world who watched it loved it.

I like being in the majority.

:cheeky:

I've found it very hard not to say this because I'll probably get in trouble a de-rail the thread, but I find that quite a sickening thing to say. One of the things I've learned in my life as an MJ fan is that the majority isn't always right and it takes courage to be in the minority speaking out against the majority, that sounds like the attitude of the mindless sheep I was surrounded with back in 2003/2005 in high school when I had to defend Michael against 'the majority'.

You may think I'm reading too much into you saying that but I do find it an odd thing to say on an MJ forum of all places, kind of bothers me.

Also within the contexts of this thread, it's clearly a sneaky dig at those who don't like it as if we are all wrong because we are in the minority. Even though I'm not quite sure we are in this forum, it's looked about 50/50 for me, I'm not bothered about what the majority opinion across the world is. I'm bothered about what true Michael Jackson fans who have studied his work and know him better than anyone else think and right now it's about 50/50 I would say.