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Michael - The Great Album Debate

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What's... happening to this thread?
 
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I believe that most of the regular visitors of the thread have moved to MaxJax, possibly for peace of mind. I don't speak for the masses, so it's only a guess. Plus, people aren't that motivated to post after Love decided to leave.
 
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Jesta said:
I believe that most of the regular visitors of the thread have moved to MaxJax, possibly for peace of mind. I don't speak for the masses, so it's only a guess. Plus, people aren't that motivated to post after Love decided to leave.
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Yup....well, that's why I left....
 
Let's assume these lines really are from Dominic Cascio:

Dominic Cascio:
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The kids while at my house had homeschooling everyday at my house while Michael worked in the studio! (2 different parts of the house) everything will be revealed shortly! The truth will prevail! The Jackson brothers and 3t are brainwashing everyone because of their own jealousy! Including the kids! Michael distanced himself from his brothers for a reason! They were all greedy, and always looked for trouble and they are doing the same now! Remember that they have no say in the estate, and they are not entitled to any money from the estate… the only ones who benefit from the estate are those 3 beautiful kids! So not buying the album will ultimately hurt them! My brother has 3 songs on the album, and if they were fake they wouldn’t be going out! Remember the Jackson’s ordered a forensic test to test the vocals and they came back positive! (all 3 tests) all the producers who worked with him like Quincy Jones, Bruce Sweden, Teddy Riley all say its him so who is claiming its fake?? ONLY THE JACKSONS! Now if they still have a problem they should take legal action but since they have NO case they are trying to ruin the album to hurt my family, which is doing nothing but hurting the kids! So like i said look at the big picture! Don’t be manipulated! Michael always said don’t listen to what you hear about him because people make up lies! My brother has sworn affidavits which means he swore his life these songs! We are not desperate we are trying to make Michael’s latest work be heard! If Michael didn’t like these songs he would never record them to begin with! He didn’t record on friends tracks just for fun!!! this was serious! not fully finished but very serious work! the fans are doing more harm to Michael’s name then good!

Michael’s is singing in the whole song, the other voice is just giving accents that michael could not record yet because he wasnt able to due to his death! You can hear it in the background when he sais the word Jackson.. Michael is saying Jackson but in the back you will heard Jackson said with a different tone and accent, maybe this voice is causing confusion with the fans but just like in butterflies there were other singers credited in the songs just like this guy is! maybe without the voice there wouldnt be confusion of the credibility of the songs but it is too late think what should have been done.. this is the way it is and we are not making false tracks! michael was recorded through out the whole song, these were just extras to give more body! maybe it was the right decision maybe it was wrong but in no way would we try to fool the fans, or anyone! We have always been and will always be LOYAL to michael and the kids!

there will be a statement plus more from my brother one day soon and i hope it will clarify every thing! 3t and the Jackson’s started this smear campaign after John MacLaine songs were taken off the album to put my brothers. (Sony’s decision) by the way John Maclaine was fired years ago and Michael hated him ever since! unfortunately the last will found was one while John was still working with michael.. ( kinda suspicious if that’s the latest will) michael would have never left the estate in his hands knowing the way he felt about him.. so again… LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE!!! you’re accusing the wrong people… You can say that he sounds different, you’re right, different studio, different equipment, different point in time in Michael’s life! don’t be mad about these songs! celebrate them, if you don’t like them I’m sorry but that is a glimpse of what he was still working on… Monster is a song i know he couldn’t wait to develop more! videos and story line! Wait until the album comes out before you judge (the fans)!
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So I ask the "2 merged voices theorists" ... what about that statement ? Is this, god forbid, a Cascio lying ??

And how "serious" can it be to sing 12 songs while ill and not even wanting to sound good ...
 
^Did Eddie really say this? lol

different point in time in Michael’s life!
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That doesn't even make sense, since in This is it MJ sounded like his usual self! To compare the three song to butterflies is just plain stupid too! :smilerolleyes:lol
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

i moved to maxjax. i don't feel that this forum fits my needs as well. AHEM.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Sorry to hear that dear but there is no need for grandstanding your exit Ahem
Bye bye .. come back any time for a visit.
 
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oh, i'm not leaving for good. just for this particular thread for sure (or anything related to the cascios). i'll be around.
 
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Grent said:
Let's assume these lines really are from Dominic Cascio:

So I ask the "2 merged voices theorists" ... what about that statement ? Is this, god forbid, a Cascio lying ??
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see this part

michael was recorded through out the whole song, these were just extras to give more body!
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more body is actually what I was talking about. go back to my posts you'll see me mention "texture" and how it can be done.

Let's get this thread active :)
 
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bluetopez said:
^Did Eddie really say this? lol

That doesn't even make sense, since in This is it MJ sounded like his usual self! To compare the three song to butterflies is just plain stupid too! :smilerolleyes:lol
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That statement actually comes from Dominic, Eddie's brother, who initially started working on these songs with another artist. I don't know, the multiple voice thing is plausible, but to me, it just doesn't explain the similarities between certain characteristics of the Cascio voice, to another voice we all know. And I believe this statement was released since this controversy first began, since then Eddie hasn't really come out and said anything, other than the usual "Yea, Michael recorded here, you have to believe me" (And believe me Eddie, I want to believe you). I do believe Michael didn't want Branca or McClain in charged of anything, and fellow members of the fan community have voiced similar sentiments on numerous occasions, but of course, Michael didn't plan on passing as early as he did, and unfortunately, the will is all we have. So Dominic could be on to something with the jealousy thing, but he's wrong when he mentioned Quincy Jones as a supporter, Quincy only said through interviews that "It sounds like him, but there's so many voices layered that it's hard to tell", and there isn't any proof of Bruce Swedien saying anything regarding the matter. So I don't know where he got that from.



Also, something I've just noticed, there are finger snaps present in Monster. The problem is I don't know if their apart of the beat, sampled, or natural.
 
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ivy said:
see this part



more body is actually what I was talking about. go back to my posts you'll see me mention "texture" and how it can be done.

Let's get this thread active :)
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If that were the case (that MJ sang throughout the whole song) there would be indeed more body or texture, but in reality there's a lack of it. No power no nothing. Flat voice as hell.
 
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Hey, not wanting to get involved in this thread as quite frankly all this crap is just doing my brain in now. we all know there is more than 1 singer on the cascio tracks, and that we will probably never know who this singer really is, but whats done is done, and nothing is gonna change that=( Anyway, i digress, i mainly came here to ask about Hollywood Tonight. Now, to me, that song is definitely 100% MJ all the way (cept the crappy spoken bridge obviously) and yet there are "fans" out there trying to claim that it is Jason f-ing Malachi on that. Here is the link to the youtube vid where it states it (i hope its ok to post) tell me what u think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt9c...7gW4iRQr72fNh3AzwnYv_g3aODYLFv8&feature=inbox
 
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Mr.Moonwalker said:
Hey, not wanting to get involved in this thread as quite frankly all this crap is just doing my brain in now. we all know there is more than 1 singer on the cascio tracks, and that we will probably never know who this singer really is, but whats done is done, and nothing is gonna change that=( Anyway, i digress, i mainly came here to ask about Hollywood Tonight. Now, to me, that song is definitely 100% MJ all the way (cept the crappy spoken bridge obviously) and yet there are "fans" out there trying to claim that it is Jason f-ing Malachi on that. Here is the link to the youtube vid where it states it (i hope its ok to post) tell me what u think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt9c...7gW4iRQr72fNh3AzwnYv_g3aODYLFv8&feature=inbox
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As I stated earlier, I even don't bother wasting my energy to prove that HT is sung by MJ. It is as if someone would claim that BAD album was sung by Prince. All I can do is have a good laugh when reading such comments.

p.s. Not your comments, but comments written by people who don't believe MJ's on HT.
 
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I uploaded a Jason Malachi's snippet "Tell It Like It Is" backwards and named the file BW.
I also uploaded a snippet of Michael jackson and Stevie Wonder "Get It" snippet. Here is what I received in my e-mail box:

Hi there, bumper_snippet,

this is Melanie from SoundCloud writing. I'm getting in touch because we've received a take-down notice from Angelikson Music about content used and uploaded without their permission:

http://soundcloud.com/bumper_snippet/bw
http://soundcloud.com/bumper_snippet/get-it

If you don't own the rights to this/these track(s) or don't have the permission from the artist, label or rights holder to upload, publish and distribute the material, this content cannot be hosted on SoundCloud.

In the meantime, the material has been hidden. Please get back to us within 2 working days if you have the correct permissions before we delete the material permanently. If you feel like this report has been sent by mistake, it would be great if you could provide us with any documents in your possession that show these permissions. Feel free to upload your own music anytime and please don't hesitate to contact me for further information.

For reference:
Our terms of use: http://soundcloud.com/terms-of-use
Our Community Guidelines: http://soundcloud.com/community-guidelines

Best regards,

Melanie
SoundCloud
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Black Widow and Burn Tonight, the husk is there, 100% MJ.
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
I uploaded a Jason Malachi's snippet "Tell It Like It Is" backwards and named the file BW.
I also uploaded a snippet of Michael jackson and Stevie Wonder "Get It" snippet. Here is what I received in my e-mail box:
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Well I did see a Casico track on your channel
its was the mix Duet of malachi/Casico... I was impressed by it
so most likely thats the reason

I dont think they are claiming copyright on the Malachi songs
 
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qbee said:
Well I did see a Casico track on your channel
its was the mix Duet of malachi/Casico... I was impressed by it
so most likely thats the reason

I dont think they are claiming copyright on the Malachi songs
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I uploaded a snippet of JM "tell it like it is" only. It was uploaded with the reversed effect. It was removed by Angelikson. It doesn't make sense, unless either my account has been targeted or someone maliciously denounced my upload.
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
I uploaded a snippet of JM "tell it like it is" only. It was uploaded with the reversed effect. It was removed by Angelikson. It doesn't make sense, unless either my account has been targeted or someone maliciously denounced my upload.
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well then I would reply and tell Soundcloud it is your own song and it doesnt require permissions and that is is not owned BY Angelikson Music unless soundcloud knows what it is they cant say it isnt yours .. Tell them Angelikson Music made a mistake by claiming this at theirs _ ive dont that on Youtube many times when the wrong peopel placed a claim on a song I uploaded and youtube resleased it.
 
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qbee said:
well then I would reply and tell Soundcloud it is your own song and it doesnt require permissions and that is is not owned BY Angelikson Music unless soundcloud knows what it is they cant say it isnt yours .. Tell them Angelikson Music made a mistake by claiming this at theirs _ ive dont that on Youtube many times when the wrong peopel placed a claim on a song I uploaded and youtube resleased it.
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It's just amazing how anyone can claim anything. But anyway, I can re-upload anytime. For now I don't need it.
 
I just heard soldier boy in full. All I have to say is:













:hysterical: :hysterical: :lol: :) :doh: :mello: :( :no: :cry:
 
Dorian said:
"Why don't you shine like you're a man again? :D"

Did he suffer a sex-change operation?
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hahaha even more proof, I thought it was:

"she'd rather be king, with an absolute reign, 'til he finds himself a victim of the game"

Black Widow sounds very similar to MJ but it could equally sampled or Jason doing his husk style. That's the only thing Jason can do like in Don't Walk Away, or the Cascio guy singing "why you stalkin' me" and "you breakin the news"
 
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