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Michael's siblings- who remained trustworthy?

I thought Marlon, Tito, Jackie, and Janet wore cool. I was a little surprised at Janet with the kidnapping thing and thought she talked way too much when MJ died and not in a good way. But she is still my second favorite Jackson. I thought Reebie was okay, but after looking through this forum I learned something that I didn't know so my opinion is a little on the fence. I heard Randy is a woman beater so I haven't liked him since that. Jermaine gets on my darn nerves. He is so jealous of MJ that he can't see straight. Get over it Jermaine. Michael was way more talented than you. Latoya....oh Latoya... I felt so bad for her because she was with that evil man, but she hurt MJ bad. I have empathy for her, but it's hard for me to like her. Joe, I give credit where credit is due, but he has some serious issues. I like Mama Katherine, but I think she is ill advised about a lot of things. She is a sweetheart though and absolutely means well.
 
I think all those siblings Michael did put in his last will... I'd interprete that into those who were trustworthy to him or who he felt at his side.

Katherine is a very old woman... well that's not what you asked...
 
Randy - The fact that he crashed his car through the gates of Neverland to try to get to Michael because of money just completely discredits him for me. According to security Michael hid inside and randy ran around screaming outside on the lawn. They had to call Joe in to get Randy out of there. He also "took control" of Michael's affairs in 05 and brought a lot of bad people into Michael's life. The only good thing he did was bringing in Tom Messerau to be Michael's defense attorney.

Tito - I never hear much about him. To me he always seemed like the one brother that was content to do his own thing. He was a music producer (if I remember right) and managed his son's group 3T.

Marlon - I never hear much about him but I wish he and the other brothers could do something else in interviews besides talk about Michael.

Jermaine - He always seems like he's talking out of his rear end. He's always seemed jealous that it was Michael that went on to become famous and not him. I don't like him. I don't trust him. His list of offenses is enough to warrant that: The You Are Not Alone Book, The You Are Not Alone "Musical", The planned MJ amusement park, the MJ resort hotels. Plus he looks like one of the old California Raisins commercials. On one of the old forums I was on, we always called him Jermaisn.

Jackie - I don't know much about him.

Janet - I never really liked her or her music in the first place. I was done with her the moment she tried to take Paris' phone out of her hand during the whole granny-napping fiasco. I don't like some of the other things she's done like charging her outfit expenses for the memorial service to the Estate (the whole family did this) She has her own money but prefers to have Michael be hand handout machine.

LaToya - She always rubs me the wrong way. She seems so fake to me. She really Michael with the stuff she said back in 1993. That's a good enough reason for me not to trust her. She's always fueling the conspiracy theorists of the fandom with her whole SONY KILLED MICHAEL bullpoop. And she constantly bashes the Estate and exploits the children.

Reebie - I don't know much about her but I've never trusted her either.

Katherine - Michael loved his mother very much, and I think she used that to her advantage when the other siblings would whisper in her ear. The siblings would use her to get what they wanted from Michael the Money Train. She's too easily manipulated.

Joe - Does anyone with a lick of sense trust this man?
 
Randy met Tom before but it was Johnny Cochran who adviced Michael to bring Tom, Randy just contacted him. I bet you read the fraud him, Karen Fake and his girlfriend committed running that MJ page (forgot its name) promising the fans a chat with Michael and Randall if they bought a $50 membership, the chat was cancelled and obviously they never returned the fans' money. Also when Randall visited FL, fans noticed he stole some gifts they left to Michael. So, he's a disgusting piece of work.

Rebbie was/has been pretty much in contact with Stacey Brown, yes, he's her brother-in-law but we know all the crap he's said about Michael and the scumbag he is. When he passed in recent days, Rebbie entered to his Carolwood, stole his sunglasses she found and sold them on auction. :puke:

All the siblings had to make appointments to see him. He left nothing for them in his will. To me it tells me Michael trusted no one but his mother.
 
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I forgot to add, Randall, Karen Fake and his girlfriend began tu run MJ World Net (if the name is not mistake) with Michael's approval in 2004 but the chat was promised when the trial was about to start. Many fans found odd that chat was promised knowing Michael was preparing for the trial but many people got duped with those $50 because the chat was cancelled in April 2005 and the page went down as well. Imagine how Michael felt with his thief brother doing him that and to his fans. I don't know how Michael didn't find out Karen was also involved but she had the nerve to blame him when the page closed because he didn't support it. :angry:
 
I'm iffy about most of the family,but Katherine,Janet,and the kids are honestly the only people in the family I can honestly say I trust.
I know people are all butthurt about the whole "granny-napping" fiasco with Janet,but hey,she's human and humans are allowed to make mistakes.
Why most of this forum holds it against her is hysterical to me,because with the 1993 allegations,Michael needed Janet and vice versa,and Scream would not have been born without their bond.
 
At the end, Janet was the only one who stuck by him. I think she loved him very much. The others, I'm not so sure.

I like Jermaine's music, but the guy gets on my nerves. I wish he'd stop trying to compete with Michael. He never was as good.
 
none of them, what kind of question is this. have you not seen what was going when Mike was alive and especially after his death. They all can go where the sun don't shine for all I care for.
 
Bubs said:
Now that you asked, here is my input, Trust no one.

All of them have involved some tacky business deals after MJ passing trying to make money of him.
Whether its belts, jackets, tribute concert, lying to the press etc.

What Michael did with his family speaks volumes. He didn't want them anywhere near him, thus the security was instructed to keep them out, and if he needed a place to stay, he would go to his friends, not family.
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That's what sealed the deal for me; Mike's own actions towards them.
 
Well, I cannot forgive LaToya for what she did to Michael in 1993 but that does not include all the other family members. As every other family the Jacksons had their ups and downs and at some point MJ probably felt exploited by his brothers which is totally understandable. But the fact is they were there during the trials when Michael needed them the most and all the other "friends" had turned their back on him.
Therefore I never thought it was wise by Michael to isolate himself that much and put his trust into some weird managers who were only interested in getting their pay checks. Those were the real vampires!

I won't judge any of the Jacksons because I don't know them personally. The only thing I know is that there was written a lot of garbage about the family and their relationship. It is the same procedure like with Michael only to a smaller extend.
 
Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
Didn't Janet along with Jermaine, Katherine wanted to force Michael to tour with her and the brothers in 2007 and and even there was a nasty fight about it?
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Hell no. That's tabloid bullshit. Michael has always spoken highly of Janet, even after Superbowl he showed a lot of support and said he was proud. We don't know what happened last summer, so let's not jump into conclusions. We only know about rumours. Michael & Janet have always had nothing but love towards each other. And even now, Janet still tweets in honor of him.
 
JustMe00 said:
Hell no. That's tabloid bullshit. Michael has always spoken highly of Janet, even after Superbowl he showed a lot of support and said he was proud. We don't know what happened last summer, so let's not jump into conclusions. We only know about rumours. Michael & Janet have always had nothing but love towards each other. And even now, Janet still tweets in honor of him.
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Most fans know very well what happened. Maybe you are the one who didn't follow what was going on at that time... Janet was on several talk shows speaking about trying to make Michael to agree for reunion tour. So it's not a tabloid BS. Plus her behavior and statements about MJ after his death were very embarrassing. I,ve got an impression that she is externally jealous of Michael and two faced person. I even suspect that Paris's trauma could be connected to Janet's and Rebbie's actions. They were not allowed to visit the house where children lived and I don't believe that they were following the rules when they escorted they mother to the court. Imagine how this girl would feel. She was totally helpless...Now she probably is a poor sheep after all medications and therapy. IMO all kids are totally brainwashed and it's hard to expect now anything above average from them as long as they will grow in Jackson's environment. I would love to be wrong about it. The only hope is that they will have around ambitious, talented and hard working friends (like for example Prince's last girlfriend) who would be able to inspire them to be ahead in something like their father was.
 
Warszawa320 said:
Most fans know very well what happened. Maybe you are the one who didn't follow what was going on at that time... Janet was on several talk shows speaking about trying to make Michael to agree for reunion tour. So it's not a tabloid BS. Plus her behavior and statements about MJ after his death were very embarrassing. I,ve got an impression that she is externally jealous of Michael and two faced person. I even suspect that Paris's trauma could be connected to Janet's and Rebbie's actions. They were not allowed to visit the house where children lived and I don't believe that they were following the rules when they escorted they mother to the court. Imagine how this girl would feel. She was totally helpless...Now she probably is a poor sheep after all medications and therapy. IMO all kids are totally brainwashed and it's hard to expect now anything above average from them as long as they will grow in Jackson's environment. I would love to be wrong about it. The only hope is that they will have around ambitious, talented and hard working friends (like for example Prince's last girlfriend) who would be able to inspire them to be ahead in something like their father was.
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With all due respect that is all hearsay and quite frankly mostly bullshit. You know as much as I do. I know it's fun to speculate and read all kinds of conspiracy theories but the reality remains the same; we don't know anything about their relationship. Only what they said about each other (which was only positive from the beginning till the end).
 
I wanna say Jackie so bad because I have never really heard about being involved in anything bad happening to Michael if I'm not mistaken. He seems like the mellowed out sibling that doesn't really like starting problems. Marlon, well, he does too sort of. So I'm just gonna say an iffy yes about those two. Have we EVER heard anything about Tito? Like that's an honest question, I think we did.


Jermaine, Randy, Janet (no matter how catchy her music may be), Latoya and Rebbie haven't even had my trust since I first heard about them. You know how you have the one person you feel close with and you notice the other people around them give off that snake vibe? Yeah, that's how I felt about Michael and a lot of his family. That's why no one should be mad that he distanced himself from them.
 
mj-forever said:
Well, I cannot forgive LaToya for what she did to Michael in 1993 but that does not include all the other family members. As every other family the Jacksons had their ups and downs and at some point MJ probably felt exploited by his brothers which is totally understandable. But the fact is they were there during the trials when Michael needed them the most and all the other "friends" had turned their back on him.
Therefore I never thought it was wise by Michael to isolate himself that much and put his trust into some weird managers who were only interested in getting their pay checks. Those were the real vampires!

I won't judge any of the Jacksons because I don't know them personally. The only thing I know is that there was written a lot of garbage about the family and their relationship. It is the same procedure like with Michael only to a smaller extend.
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He trusted Randy with whole empire during the trial, only for Randy to conspire with others to get him to sell his most precious asset the Beatles catalog.
 
mj-forever said:
Well, I cannot forgive LaToya for what she did to Michael in 1993 but that does not include all the other family members. As every other family the Jacksons had their ups and downs and at some point MJ probably felt exploited by his brothers which is totally understandable. But the fact is they were there during the trials when Michael needed them the most and all the other "friends" had turned their back on him.
Therefore I never thought it was wise by Michael to isolate himself that much and put his trust into some weird managers who were only interested in getting their pay checks. Those were the real vampires!

I won't judge any of the Jacksons because I don't know them personally. The only thing I know is that there was written a lot of garbage about the family and their relationship. It is the same procedure like with Michael only to a smaller extend.
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JustMe00 said:
With all due respect that is all hearsay and quite frankly mostly bullshit. You know as much as I do. I know it's fun to speculate and read all kinds of conspiracy theories but the reality remains the same; we don't know anything about their relationship. Only what they said about each other (which was only positive from the beginning till the end).
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So you really didn't see on line communication between Prince, Janet and other family members during Katherine Jackson absence around MJ's kids. According to you all the documents were hearsay and bullshit. What can I say? Maybe you just should to research more on the subject before commenting about something avoiding the facts.
 
Warszawa320 said:
Most fans know very well what happened. Maybe you are the one who didn't follow what was going on at that time... Janet was on several talk shows speaking about trying to make Michael to agree for reunion tour. So it's not a tabloid BS. Plus her behavior and statements about MJ after his death were very embarrassing. I,ve got an impression that she is externally jealous of Michael and two faced person. I even suspect that Paris's trauma could be connected to Janet's and Rebbie's actions. They were not allowed to visit the house where children lived and I don't believe that they were following the rules when they escorted they mother to the court. Imagine how this girl would feel. She was totally helpless...Now she probably is a poor sheep after all medications and therapy. IMO all kids are totally brainwashed and it's hard to expect now anything above average from them as long as they will grow in Jackson's environment. I would love to be wrong about it. The only hope is that they will have around ambitious, talented and hard working friends (like for example Prince's last girlfriend) who would be able to inspire them to be ahead in something like their father was.
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You obviously don't know The Jacksons at all.

Jermaine is the one who is always being two faced. Janet is very sweet, and was very protective of Michael. After he died, she was a mess.
 
ShipOfFools said:
You obviously don't know The Jacksons at all.

Jermaine is the one who is always being two faced. Janet is very sweet, and was very protective of Michael. After he died, she was a mess.
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The same mess as LaToya in 1993. Just different accusations...
 
ShipOfFools said:
You obviously don't know The Jacksons at all.

Jermaine is the one who is always being two faced. Janet is very sweet, and was very protective of Michael. After he died, she was a mess.
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Still is. Living in Qatar with a billionaire husband, one moment she is making new music, the next she isn't... Who knows if she'll ever come back.
 
JustMe00 said:
With all due respect that is all hearsay and quite frankly mostly bullshit. You know as much as I do. I know it's fun to speculate and read all kinds of conspiracy theories but the reality remains the same; we don't know anything about their relationship. Only what they said about each other (which was only positive from the beginning till the end).
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So you are not aware of on line communication between Prince, Janet and other members of Jackson family. In this case it's not a hearsay but the facts. Believe me the facts are very embarrassing for Jacksons and should be for their supporters. Janet and her family lost respect among so many fans. There is no way they can earn this respect back.
 
Warszawa320 said:
So you are not aware of on line communication between Prince, Janet and other members of Jackson family. In this case it's not a hearsay but the facts. Believe me the facts are very embarrassing for Jacksons and should be for their supporters. Janet and her family lost respect among so many fans. There is no way they can earn this respect back.
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I am perfectly aware and followed this story closely. And I stand behind what I said. We know almost nothing at all. Sorry.
 
JustMe00 said:
I am perfectly aware and followed this story closely. And I stand behind what I said. We know almost nothing at all. Sorry.
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Just say: I know almost nothing at all. Or you just don't want to know. Exactly like Katherine Jackson stated in her depositions that she doesn't like the bad news...
 
Warszawa320 said:
Just say: I know almost nothing at all. Or you just don't want to know. Exactly like Katherine Jackson stated in her depositions that she doesn't like the bad news...
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I would be lying if I said it only applied to me. If hearsay and rumours equals facts to you, then there really is no point in responding to you. If you have facts confirmed by people involved (and I don't mean random tweets that are vague, nor "insider information"), do share.
 
Prince Jackson ‏@princemjjjaxon 26 Jul 2012
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Prince Jackson · @princemjjjaxon
26th Jul 2012 from Twitlonger

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have not been backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had initially sent was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, we were denied contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.
please RT this so it doesn't leave twitter as well as the attached image
 
Bubs;4011505 said:
Prince Jackson ‏@princemjjjaxon 26 Jul 2012
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Prince Jackson · @princemjjjaxon
26th Jul 2012 from Twitlonger

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have not been backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had initially sent was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, we were denied contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.
please RT this so it doesn't leave twitter as well as the attached image
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I do believe I said no vague tweets with no details. That doesn't answer any questions to be honest. We still have no idea of what happened, why and what the full story is on both sides. We only have tweets from Paris and Prince, that really only give an idea of a family emergency and disagreements.
 
It is not vague, it is very clear that Prince put that out to show to the world what Janet replied when they asked to speak with their granny.

Thats the thing with family members fans. They refuse to see and accept things that shows their beloved member in bad light.
 
Bubs said:
It is not vague, it is very clear that Prince put that out to show to the world what Janet replied when they asked to speak with their granny.

Thats the thing with family members fans. They refuse to see and accept things that shows their beloved member in bad light.
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Not at all, I can accept that no person is perfect and everyone has their flaws. Doesn't matter if it's a Jackson or anyone else for that matter. I adore both Janet and Michael but I'm not obsessed -> I can handle negativity as I am very critical of both of them myself.

As for that tweet, it again doesn't answer any real questions. It's just one statement about them refusing Katherine from seeing them. Why? Not one person knows. What was it all about? No official facts about this, only arguments and videos. That does not give you a factual, realistic image of what really happened. We have stories and rumours but nothing that can be taken as a fact, other than them arguing.
 
Simply put, Janet and other granny-nappers refused to allow kids to talk KJ.
This is also what KJ stated in the court (available in corresponding thread) when her guardianship was questioned.
 
Bubs said:
Simply put, Janet and other granny-nappers refused to allow kids to talk KJ.
This is also what KJ stated in the court (available in corresponding thread) when her guardianship was questioned.
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We all know that already. My point remains the same.
 
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