respect77;4086435 said:
I never thought Back on the Block deserved even one Grammy, let alone 8. I think that that album got 8 Grammys is a very good representation of the Grammys being highly political at times and a lot depending who is well connected within the board and who is not. Quincy definitely is one of the well connected people in the industry. That's not to say he isn't a great musician or artists, but that particular album was not that great and it winning 8 Grammys was more political than anything else IMO.
No one said he did not have a musical resume before or after Michael so you did not have to list his life here. We are all aware of that, you do not tell us anything new. But it's a fact that he achieved his greatest success - by far - with Michael. So to say his career would be the same without Michael is just not true. He would still probably be a highly respected jazz/soft jazz/jazz-funk/film music producer, but not the household name that he is with Michael's success. Why do you think he is always being asked about Michael if his career would be the same without him? And I am sure the royalties he's getting through his work with Michael also matter a lot to his finances. So to play down Michael's role in his life and career - I am not here for that.
It's not a myth unfortunately that he said some degrading things about Michael as an artist. Do you think MJ fans are just bitter at him for no reason at all? He's been very disrespectful to Michael with no reason.
Can you show me examples of that?
wait though, when MJ won his 8 Grammys in 1984 (which was well deserved), I don't think anyone was talking political connections then
as far as Back on the Block, the album wasn't just about Quincy Jones, it was about the collaboration of all the artists who participated on it, it was about a celebration of the entire musical spectrum, in many ways just like Thriller
is a 1989 studio album produced by Quincy Jones.[5] The album features legendary musicians and singers from across three generations, including Ella Fitzgerald, Miles Davis, Joe Zawinul, Ice-T, Big Daddy Kane, Sarah Vaughan, Dizzy Gillespie, George Benson, Luther Vandross, Dionne Warwick, Barry White, Chaka Khan, Take 6, Bobby McFerrin, Al Jarreau, Al B. Sure!, James Ingram, El DeBarge and Ray Charles.
The grammys that it did win wasn't as much about him as much as it was about the music performances and out of all of those performers, not one ever said that Quincy tried to take all the credit for it wasn't about taking credit.........and when critics were trying to compare Tevin to a young Michael Jackson Quincy said that wasn't fair because Michael was a triple threat performer
and when Michael and Quincy's collaboration started, it wasn't Quincy who approached Michael , it was Michael who approached him because he knew just how accomplished Quincy already was, even before the Wiz, he had just completed the musical score for "Roots" miniseries and was working with the Brothers Johnson going into the creation for Off The Wall in 1978, Quincy was already the most saught after musical producer in the business, and Quincy never rested on his laurels because after Off The Wall, he produced his own album "The Dude" in 1981, one of the best albums that year and won a string of Grammy's and featured the likes of Patti Austin and James Ingram who performed background vocals for a number of songs on Thriller
Quincy was already the best but the pop music world did not recognize him...same thing with Michael Jackson with Off the Wall as the the Grammys did not award him for best pop album in 1981
it works both ways, just as Quincy's most iconic work took place w/MJ, MJ's most iconic work was with Quincy....there is no disputing that, working on back to back to back albums that sold over 100 million copies total....it's the best collaboration in music history
Quincy didn't make Michael and Michael didn't make Quincy, they were already legends, they brought the absolute best out of each other and that's how their collaboration should be remembered but we have antagonists now who have surfaced in the past 5 years who are determined to change history and write their own narrative and Quincy knows this and that's why he's coming across more defiant these days in interviews when asked about their work together
and we need to understand that Michael made mistakes that had deep impact on his life and career. it's never mentioned that when the 93 allegations surfaced (which I never once felt that MJ was guilty of or in 2005), Quincy was one of his staunchest supporters, advocated for him, and always spoke highly of him, but when it happened again 12 years later, that's when Quincy got upset and said he only knew MJ on a professional level because he was mad he allowed himself to be placed in that position again when it could all been avoided...if you really care about somebody, u may say things they may come across as harsh but you are saying it because u see how that person is hurting themselves...at some point, the human consideration is more important than the entertainment aspect
the whole thing about Quincy never liking Billie Jean is nothing but a myth that started 5 years ago
[video=youtube;ASP_tAtT79s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASP_tAtT79s[/video]
of all the years, there was never one artists, not one who ever worked with Quincy who ever said he tried to take all the credit..not one'
but everything is being distorted now
[video]https://youtu.be/l-g2jV2nlHs[/video]
When Quincy received producer of the year in 1984, he didn't take all the credit, he acknowledged everyone who helped made Thriller a success and thanked Michael for the songs he wrote for the album
when Michael and Quincy went up on that stage together to receive those Grammys, it was the best celebratory night in music history
