Nurse Cherilyn Lee Is a Liar and Possible Supporter of Dr. Murder Murray

[indranee]

one thing, she told the media that she hadn't gone to the police. so, either she was lying about having gone, or she didn't go. if she didn't, and she was making the media rounds while flouting the HIPAA rules, I find that dang wierd.

the other is a question for Loopy: Loopy, when you say that Propofol leaves the body really fast after being administered, can you tell us how? is it a natural process of elimination. if so, would a catheter have to be used? if so, then, intubation, the oxygen, the IV drip equipment AND a catheter... no wonder it'd take Murray so long to "clean up" before calling for help. and all of that while he was making sure the room was "clean".

ugh. this is just too sad, too crazy. and all I can think of is why. ugh.

 

[LindaC781]

one thing, she told the media that she hadn't gone to the police. so, either she was lying about having gone, or she didn't go. if she didn't, and she was making the media rounds while flouting the HIPAA rules, I find that dang wierd.

the other is a question for Loopy: Loopy, when you say that Propofol leaves the body really fast after being administered, can you tell us how? is it a natural process of elimination. if so, would a catheter have to be used? if so, then, intubation, the oxygen, the IV drip equipment AND a catheter... no wonder it'd take Murray so long to "clean up" before calling for help. and all of that while he was making sure the room was "clean".

ugh. this is just too sad, too crazy. and all I can think of is why. ugh.

I don't know if you were referring to me as "Loopy", but I have to admit that I do tend to resemble that remark at times...lol

From: http://www.informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15563650902887842

The death certificate lists the cause of death as "deferred." The toxicology report may show whether prescription painkillers played any role in Jackson's death. But experts say Diprivan, a powerful anesthesia drug, allegedly used as a sleep aid by the singer, is often hard to detect on routine toxicology tests.

"You have to send urine and potentially blood and potentially hair to very specialized laboratories," said Dr. Paul Wischmeyer, a Diprivan expert.

In other words, by the process of sweating or by urinary elimination, Diprivan (Propofol) is rapidly excreted from the body. You can't detect it using routine tests. Hair will tend to show if the person was a long-term user. They do the same type of tests on narcotics and poisoning cases. Traces of the drug can be found at certain parts of the hair. Coupled with knowing how fast hair grows, one can conjecture just how long someone was either poisoned, or taking narcotics.

 

[indranee]

lol no I thought there was a "loopy" here too :lol:

hmm... so no catheter need be used in an unconscious patient? I wonder how it works when the patient expires and the body is no longer eliminating toxins.

reading your link thanks...

 

[LindaC781]

lol no I thought there was a "loopy" here too :lol:

hmm... so no catheter need be used in an unconscious patient? I wonder how it works when the patient expires and the body is no longer eliminating toxins.

reading your link thanks...

Hey no problemo!! Just call me "Loopy" from now on!! LOL!

And if the patient is unconscious, how is he/she going to eliminate? You need a Foley catheter or a straight cath or even a condom catheter (if the patient is a male that is! LOL!) to get rid of the urine....cause they can't voluntarily pee on their own. I'm a nursing assistant - help with inserting and dc'ing (disconnecting) these things all the time.

 

[indranee]

bingo Linda!

exactly the answer I was looking for.

Murray had to have inserted a catheter. and he had to deal with all of that that morning. three hours? flew by for him.

ugh.

 

[myfavouritewintercoat]

there's a reason y they took brain matter to test it. there's a reason y they did an extensive tox. THIS COLD'VE BEEN A PLANT BUT if they find that he's used propofol before then this still could've been a plant, but it would show that he's used it before.

they can tell the extent he's used, when he stopped, what he used, and if he's over had an overdose. so whatever they've found from the tox leads me to believe it was propofol.

I think that is a very important point, if they 'planted' something or gave him something to kill him that hes taken before... no one will question it... the perfect cover up

 

[LindaC781]

bingo Linda!

exactly the answer I was looking for.

Murray had to have inserted a catheter. and he had to deal with all of that that morning. three hours? flew by for him.

ugh.

So you're saying that the good Doctor may have obstructed justice by getting rid of potential evidence before the 911 call was made? I mean, if MJ were to eliminate this, it would come from his urine....either that or poop....and maybe that was wiped up also and thrown out??

 

[indranee]

I'm saying that he needed some time in between when Kai was expecting him to come down for Michael's morning juice (around 10am) and when he actually came down (around 12:10pm) and then the 911 call was placed (around 12:26pm).

2 whole hours. what was he doing for those two hours?

I am still confused about Nurse Lee. but my main question about her behavior is the police thing. also, somebody better be checking out her Father's Day story of being in the ER in FL.

 

[SoS]

I am still confused about Nurse Lee. but my main question about her behavior is the police thing. also, somebody better be checking out her Father's Day story of being in the ER in FL.

It sure couldn't hurt. Get that much established as fact I mean.

I'm saying that he needed some time in between when Kai was expecting him to come down for Michael's morning juice (around 10am) and when he actually came down (around 12:10pm) and then the 911 call was placed (around 12:26pm).

2 whole hours. what was he doing for those two hours?

I am still confused about Nurse Lee. but my main question about her behavior is the police thing. also, somebody better be checking out her Father's Day story of being in the ER in FL.

This is another thing that's been niggling at me.

OK, a DOCTOR has been trying by whatever means to revive a patient who, when he discovered the patient, wasn't breathing.

(Look at the order in which things occurred)

He came running down the steps yelling for security at 12:10

This DOCTOR who found this patient not breathing didn't call 911 until over 15 minutes after he came running down the steps.

Even if he did need security to help him make a phone call (find a phone or whatever), why in the name of "security" should it have taken anywhere near 15 minutes for them to do that??

Can some of you with the most 'objectivity' please help out on that one?

 

[Kizmic]

Conrad's room

Notice the phone?

 

[indranee]

wait, that's the bed on which Michael was sleeping?

okay, so the land lines were not working. I thought Dr. Murray was making phone calls with his cell phone after administering the Propofol. the phone excuse is a no-go. not gonna work, IMO.

STATEofSHOCK, agreed about the 15minutes. plus, come on, he is a cardiologist for chrissakes, did he have a defib in his room? maybe he did.

we need to know all of this. I feel like we're operating in total darkness here. it's really feeding my depression/frustration about the whole thing.

okay, LAPD. why the frack did they not search the WHOLE HOUSE -- at least the entire upper floor -- that day? I don't understand any of it. I've never trusted the LAPD when it comes to Michael. sigh...

 

[SoS]

wait, that's the bed on which Michael was sleeping?

okay, so the land lines were not working. I thought Dr. Murray was making phone calls with his cell phone (she said she knew what time it was b/c she looked at her phone) after administering the Propofol. the phone excuse is a no-go. not gonna work, IMO.

STATEofSHOCK, agreed about the 15minutes. plus, come on, he is a cardiologist for chrissakes, did he have a defib in his room? maybe he did.

we need to know all of this. I feel like we're operating in total darkness here. it's really feeding my depression/frustration about the whole thing.

okay, LAPD. why the frack did they not search the WHOLE HOUSE -- at least the entire upper floor -- that day? I don't understand any of it. I've never trusted the LAPD when it comes to Michael. sigh...

yeh, I don't think the phone excuse is working for anybody. Kai already stated she had a working cell phone when she said she knew the time b/c she looked at her phone. Why would he by-pass somebody with a working phone to yell for security??? since he knew he was gonna need to call 911 to begin with - and then on top of that it takes an additional 15 minutes?? will somebody pleeeeeez answer me that????

If he had used Kai's phone to call 911, the paramedics would have been called 15 minutes sooner and for a patient not breathing the doctor knows that time is critical! Also being a cardiologist he had to also already know the patient was either already in - or in danger of going into cardiac arrest! There is a LIE here somewhere too. I think its with the whole "get Security!!" bit. It was all as someone has said - - A SHOW.

In a REAL EMERGENCY, he would go straight to the FIRST person he saw, who was Kai and simply yell, "hay you got a cell phone!!!???? Call 911!!!!!"

That's what the mahfahh would have done if it was a real emergency at that moment, NOT going yelling for something that's gonna cost the non-breathing patient ANOTHER 15 WHOLE minutes.

I'll say it again, they made sure all this crapp took place in the closed quarters of MJ's home so they could cover eachother and no one would be questioned except the doctor who, if Propofol is the decided culprit (decided vs. true culprit) then he gets a huge spank on the hand and a huge attaboy paycheck in the end along with all these other "new" people around MJ at the time. It looks to me like that is the plan.

Meanwhile the DEA is on the trail of busting a big white collar drug ring thanks to them trying to make MJ out to be some kind of a junkie.

 

[CherubimII]

I'll say it again, they made sure all this crapp took place in the closed quarters of MJ's home so they could cover eachother and no one would be questioned except the doctor who, if Propofol is the decided culprit (decided vs. true culprit) then he gets a huge spank on the hand and a huge attaboy paycheck in the end along with all these other "new" people around MJ at the time. It looks to me like that is the plan.

Meanwhile the DEA is on the trail of busting a big white collar drug ring thanks to them trying to make MJ out to be some kind of a junkie.

Nice summary.

 

[Kizmic]

wait, that's the bed on which Michael was sleeping?

okay, so the land lines were not working. I thought Dr. Murray was making phone calls with his cell phone after administering the Propofol. the phone excuse is a no-go. not gonna work, IMO.

STATEofSHOCK, agreed about the 15minutes. plus, come on, he is a cardiologist for chrissakes, did he have a defib in his room? maybe he did.

we need to know all of this. I feel like we're operating in total darkness here. it's really feeding my depression/frustration about the whole thing.

okay, LAPD. why the frack did they not search the WHOLE HOUSE -- at least the entire upper floor -- that day? I don't understand any of it. I've never trusted the LAPD when it comes to Michael. sigh...

This is MJ's bed. I believe MJ was found in his bed.

The phone story however doesn't add up since Conrad's room did have a phone. Alot of it doesn't add up.

This is a photo after the evidence was taken.

 

[SoS]

^ well from what I heard, they're claiming that for some kind of security reasons, all the land lines were disabled as if that makes any kind of sense what-so-ever when it should be the opposite - and even if for some strange reason that was true - as you have stated, how could Murray have been on his phone then suddenly had no phone to use? OK his battery could have died - -


REGARDLESS to whether there were any land lines working OR NOT -- - -

THE CHEF HAD A PHONE!!!!!!

HOW is ANYBODY gonna go TO the person WITH A PHONE and tell them to take some MORE TIME and gather up all these other people (Security) instead of telling the Chef to dial 911???

I think that story is being told that way because again, in hindsight they think it sounds good. Crooks always try to make lies plausible in the end and that's where they always mess up.

 

[indranee]

so MJ wasn't found in Conrad's room? for some reason, I thought MJ went to bed that night in Conrad's room. I'm so confused.

yes, it all adds up to a big fat question mark. everybody IN THE HOUSE that's to do with anything that happened to Michael that morning. nobody takes a proactive stance. everybody covering their own butts.

the thing with Kai that bugs me is what was pointed out earlier. the cookbook plug, the happy card thingy from poor little Paris. plus all the cutesy stuff she threw in about MJ looking her over. ugh. it's too much to take.

 

[xthunderx2]

^ well from what I heard, they're claiming that for some kind of security reasons, all the land lines were disabled as if that makes any kind of sense what-so-ever when it should be the opposite - and even if for some strange reason that was true - as you have stated, how could Murray have been on his phone then suddenly had no phone to use? OK his battery could have died - -


REGARDLESS to whether there were any land lines working OR NOT -- - -

THE CHEF HAD A PHONE!!!!!!

HOW is ANYBODY gonna go TO the person WITH A PHONE and tell them to take some MORE TIME and gather up all these other people (Security) instead of telling the Chef to dial 911???

I think that story is being told that way because again, in hindsight they think it sounds good. Crooks always try to make lies plausible in the end and that's where they always mess up.

yup i heard the same thing about the phones being disabled.......And all the while Murray had a cell phone anyway so we have now learned.....like we didn't know this anyway. He and the rest of his circle are all full of shit and I pray that they are ALL exposed. Michael didn't stand a chance with all these people around him. Poor Poor Michael...

 

[SoS]

so MJ wasn't found in Conrad's room? for some reason, I thought MJ went to bed that night in Conrad's room. I'm so confused.

yes, it all adds up to a big fat question mark. everybody IN THE HOUSE that's to do with anything that happened to Michael that morning. nobody takes a proactive stance. everybody covering their own butts.

the thing with Kai that bugs me is what was pointed out earlier. the cookbook plug, the happy card thingy from poor little Paris. plus all the cutesy stuff she threw in about MJ looking her over. ugh. it's too much to take.

Yes, she is very "flattered" and buoyant about the whole thing as she goes from talk show to talk show giving the world a glimpse at how MJ looks at a woman's butt like any other man while disregarding Paris and the other kids' personal keepsakes to her (imo to make sure everyone is convinced how much they "trusted/cherished" her) and toss the cook book out there as if MJ would have been quite ok with it, saying he "encouraged" her to write a book. I can see him encouraging her to write a book, but encouraging her to tell the world what he ate?? that I cannot see but its beside the point right now.

The main point is, here she is - touted as a "celebrity chef" and has THEREFORE just lost the opportunity of a LIFETIME and has worked in the cushyest job OF A LIFETIME for someone you only meet ONCE IN A LIFETIME who was for her, litereally HERE ONE DAY and GONE THE NEXT - - and she's not even acknowledgeing being shocked, stunned, surprised that something like this could even happen to her?? Or to someone like MJ

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

She just saw him YESTERDAY and he's GONE TODAY and she saw him every day prior to that - MORNING NOON AND NIGHT -- - - - - - - - and she wants to giggle ...*sigh* ok

and add on top of ALL THAT, this guy she's with at the end of this clip overdoing it on just how fondly she thought of him. . . .

there's something very "dark" about this man and what does he mean by "we" are not privvy to what really goes on in the Jackson household. I noticed he used that word, 'really' to distance her even further from the situation.

Listen and watch very carefully starting at 1:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2nQlI9T2uE

He's adding more "credibility" to how she thought the world of him. . . .

why say all that for cryin out loud

Everybody thought the world of him HELLO

 

[xthunderx2]

so MJ wasn't found in Conrad's room? for some reason, I thought MJ went to bed that night in Conrad's room. I'm so confused.

yes, it all adds up to a big fat question mark. everybody IN THE HOUSE that's to do with anything that happened to Michael that morning. nobody takes a proactive stance. everybody covering their own butts.

the thing with Kai that bugs me is what was pointed out earlier. the cookbook plug, the happy card thingy from poor little Paris. plus all the cutesy stuff she threw in about MJ looking her over. ugh. it's too much to take.

yeah..I agree with you. kia's response bugs me too...Plugging that book. ...... hmmm, she is looking out for herself too. Meanwhile noone was looking out for poor Michael

 

[CherubimII]

Some of the on-site home employees of Michael Jackson were obviously involved in Michael Jackson's murder and are still actively involved in the on-going cover-up. I wonder who is paying them for their murderous deeds.

 

[xthunderx2]

Yes, she is very "flattered" and buoyant about the whole thing as she goes from talk show to talk show giving the world a glimpse at MJ looks at a woman's butt like any other man while disregarding Paris and the other kids' personal keepsakes to her (imo to make sure everyone is convinced how much they "trusted/cherished" her and toss the cook book out there as if MJ would have been quite ok with it, saying he "encouraged" her to write a book. I can see him encouraging her to write a book, but encouraging her to tell the world what he ate?? that I cannot see but its beside the point right now.

The main point is, here she is - touted as a "celebrity chef" and has THEREFORE just lost the opportunity of a LIFETIME and has worked in the cushyest job OF A LIFETIME for someone you only meet ONCE IN A LIFETIME who was for her, litereally HERE ONE DAY and GONE THE NEXT - - and she's not even acknowledgeing being shocked, stunned, surprised that something like this could even happen to her?? Or to someone like MJ

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

She just saw him YESTERDAY and he's GONE TODAY and she saw him every day prior to that - MORNING NOON AND NIGHT -- - - - - - - - and she wants to giggle ...*sigh* ok

and add on top of ALL THAT, this guy she's with at the end of this clip overdoing it on just how fondly she thought of him. . . .

there's something very "dark" about this man and what does he mean by "we" are not privvy to what really goes on in the Jackson household. I noticed he used that word, 'really' to distance her even further from the situation.

Listen and watch very carefully starting at 1:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2nQlI9T2uE

odd huh??? she worked there 7 days a week.....but she saw and knew nothing???? Bull she knows more that what she is letting on. Of course she knew what what was going on in the Jackson household......I agree she is trying to separate herself from the situation. All this tells me is that she cannot be trusted either.

 

[SoS]

odd huh??? she worked there 7 days a week.....but she saw and knew nothing???? Bull she knows more that what she is letting on. Of course she knew what what was going on in the Jackson household......I agree she is trying to separate herself from the situation. All this tells me is that she cannot be trusted either.

yes, morning, noon and night

and your post brings me back to my original question


WHY DID THE DOCTOR NOT USE HER CELL PHONE TO CALL 911


????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[xthunderx2]

yes, morning, noon and night

and your post brings me back to my original question


WHY DID THE DOCTOR NOT USE HER CELL PHONE TO CALL 911


????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I wish I knew... ....Unless.....they were in it together.

 

[meena76]

He claims he did not know the address.

ASK SOMEONE YOU IDIOT.

All those people any that house, for sure someone knew the damn address.

 

[SoS]

I just hope nobody's going to suggest the doctor may have "panicked"

I don't want to hear anybody telling me they believe a Cardio-doctor "panicked"
to the point of "forgetting" to

look for the first person you see with a phone to call 911 in an emergency

or any doctor for that matter ...

or boo-boo the fool for that matter ..

no


i seriously don't even want to hear that

 

[SoS]

He claims he did not know the address.

ASK SOMEONE YOU IDIOT.

All those people any that house, for sure someone knew the damn address.

They need to stop telling this lie altogether.

Unless the man was also BLIND when he pulled to the gate EVERY DAY AND/OR NIGHT and did not SEE THAT BIG 100 at the CORNER of the STREEEEEEEEEEET (where's nancy grace dramatic azz right now yeh)

that is a BOLD FACE BOO BOO FOOL STUPID LIE

Bad enough he's gonna tell a bald faced lie but a

bald face STUPID lie

whazzup wit dat lol

"they" think people are puppets like them THAT's what it is

they got 'paper' for brains and dollar signs for hearts so no wonder

 

[troubleman84]

I just hope nobody's going to suggest the doctor may have "panicked"

I don't want to hear anybody telling me they believe a Cardio-doctor "panicked"
to the point of "forgetting" to

look for the first person you see with a phone to call 911 in an emergency

or any doctor for that matter ...

or boo-boo the fool for that matter ..

no


i seriously don't even want to hear that

Word.

 

[kasume]

First, about missing the big 100. Maybe it was because the only 0's in his mind was the ones in the paycheck Michael was to give him (or maybe even someone else) running through his mind.


If someone PANICKED, they wouldn't be able to turn up all the heaters and fireplaces, phonecall two women all the way from houston (which i believe was only a manipulation to make everything seem like an accident), call Frank (well, idk, someone had to tell him since he already knew in the morning according to Terry Harvey)..........hmm...but I don't understand why turning up some heat and making two phonecalls would take nearly two hours. There is somthing else Murray was doing. Something we don't know. Maybe he was sitting there just waiting for propofol to disappear. But no, if someone panicked they wouldn't be able to come up with such a good coverup. And this certainly is a good coverup, which means no one panicked. It was planned from the very beginning.

I don't know, but this all seems like it was planned very well. We have a burning hot upstairs with people claiming that Michael 'liked it really hot cause he was always cold.' We have non working phone lines on that day (not sure if it was just that house). We have someone ready or coming to pick Murray up at the hospital quickly after. It couldn't be his family cause they live in Vegas. We have a Michael Jackson who was amazingly performing thriller just yesterday and who's supposed to be performing in just two or three weeks at London's 02 arena, all of a sudden dead.

And about the chef...

I was wondering. If Michael or the doctor came downstairs every single day that she was cooking and around the same time for Michael's breakfeast for as long as she worked there, wouldn't it be odd to have no one come down on a random day. It isn't that polite to have the chef cook dinner for someone and not have them come down to eat it. The least the doctor could have done in her mind, was to come down and say, "Mr. Jackson won't be eating breakfeast this morning blah blah blah.." But I understand that somedays, she said the doctor never came down at all.

Something that is not the daily rountine is automatically ODD. But to her, it wasn't odd. She just thought he must've been oversleeping or something. If I were here, I would've at least asked security or someone to check on Mr. Jackson upstairs at least an hour after someone was supposed to come down.

I'm not accusing or assuming her of anything. These are just thoughts.

 

[Kizmic]

So about Kai, anyone know if she is a celebrity chef because she cooked for other celebrities? What other celebrities did she cook for?

 

[Soso Deaf]

i think he stalled for as long as possible, turned on the fireplace, called his employees to dump evidence of him giving mj propofol in the 'past' and anything else that could raise eyebrows.

then he pretended to do cpr, ran down and made a scene, then called the cops