Mister_Jay_Tee
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The lack of any guitar solo was a huge misfire.
Some of these aren’t ”remixes”, are they? If we are to include uncut or 12" mixes, then I too prefer a lot of them to their shorter album counterparts.I like all of these better than the album versions:
Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson - Say Say Say (Special Version) this is the original 1983 remix by Jellybean Benitez
Jackson 5 - Hum Along And Dance (15 minute version)
The Jacksons - Torture (12" Dance Mix)
The Jacksons & Mick Jagger - State Of Shock (12" Dance Mix)
You Can't Win (Part 1 & 2)
Billie Jean (12" Version)
Smooth Criminal (Extended Dance Mix)
Smooth Criminal (Annie Mix)
Bad (Dance Extended Mix "False Fade")
In The Closet (KI's 12")
Who Is It (IHS Mix)
Remember The Time (E-Smoove's Late Nite Mix)
2 Bad (Refugee Camp Mix)
You Are Not Alone (jon B. Padapella)
This Time Around (Dallas Main Mix)
One More Chance (Paul Oakenfold Mix)
A remix doesn't mean a track has totally different music. I have lots of remix singles by many artists and in general the music is like the original song. If you listen to early disco era remixes by somebody like Tom Moulton, they are like the album/single mix but he extends the instrumental parts because he was given the original multitracks. In some cases like Bell Biv DeVoe or Mariah Carey, they often record different vocals for the remixes. This is Hard Day by George Michael. The 1st video is the original album mix, the 2nd is the Shep Pettibone Mix. You can tell they're the same song from the beginning.Some of these aren’t ”remixes”, are they? If we are to include uncut or 12" mixes, then I too prefer a lot of them to their shorter album counterparts.
Posthumously added but based on MJs instructionsThat neff u mix of HT is very good, I just listened to it. So was this guitar part originally meant to be in the song or it something added post 2009?
Okay, then, my terminology must be wrong! I’ve always thought about a remix as an original song but with its instruments swapped out. You know, like those abominations you find on Blood on the Dance Floor after the fifth track.A remix doesn't mean a track has totally different music. I have lots of remix singles by many artists and in general the music is like the original song. If you listen to early disco era remixes by somebody like Tom Moulton, they are like the album/single mix but he extends the instrumental parts because he was given the original multitracks. In some cases like Bell Biv DeVoe or Mariah Carey, they often record different vocals for the remixes. This is Hard Day by George Michael. The 1st video is the original album mix, the 2nd is the Shep Pettibone Mix. You can tell they're the same song from the beginning.
In this case with The Boss Mix of Mariah's Fantasy, if you haven't heard the remix before and only knew the album version, you wouldn't know what it was. But you could with the Puff Daddy remix with ODB.
Those are remixes too, but remixes aren't only that. The ones on that album are mostly house remixes, which are gonna have different music unless the track was already a house music song. Sometimes a remix is exactly like the album version, but the difference is that on a 12" maxi single the bass might be pumped up for the clubs or a person with a "boomin' system" in their cars. You probably won't notice this unless you have a good quality stereo system and/or speakers. It would just sound like the album version. But if you played them back to back, the version on the album might sound flat or thin compared to the maxi single. Maxi singles often have several mixes, a dub mix is usually mostly instrumental. This is different from a reggae dub.Okay, then, my terminology must be wrong! I’ve always thought about a remix as an original song but with its instruments swapped out. You know, like those abominations you find on Blood on the Dance Floor after the fifth track.
Not sure. Paul knows the answer:@Hot_Street do you think that “one more chance“ mix you posted is made from the multitracks? I like it though I have mixed feeling about the chorus.
I don't prefer it but I like it just as much. If Bad was made today, and came out today, it'd probably sound like this. The melodies are timeless. Meanwhile I still enjoy the 80s sound.I've always preferred the Nero remix of Speed Demon. I can't listen to the original anymore, it sounds so dull.
then why are you in the mjj community“Hollywood Tonight,” “Behind the Mask,” either mix of “Love Never Felt So Good,” “Chicago,” “A Place with No Name,” the Bieber mix of “Slave to the Rhythm,” and the leaked version of “Do You Know Where Your Children Are” are the only versions I care to listen to. The demos/originals just don’t do it for me.
Shout out to the album remixes of “Loving You” and “Slave to the Rhythm” though. So well done.
Hey, just realized something… UNCUT versions of songs – those could hardly be regarded as remixes! If anything, then, it is the shortened album version that is the remix. That is, of course, given that they truly are uncut, and not just named that way for one reason or another. The Lady in My Life ought to be a good example of this, as well as many (most?) of the Bad tracks (disregarding, for this thought exercise, the actual mixing differences between the album and single versions).A remix doesn't mean a track has totally different music. I have lots of remix singles by many artists and in general the music is like the original song. If you listen to early disco era remixes by somebody like Tom Moulton, they are like the album/single mix but he extends the instrumental parts because he was given the original multitracks. In some cases like Bell Biv DeVoe or Mariah Carey, they often record different vocals for the remixes. This is Hard Day by George Michael. The 1st video is the original album mix, the 2nd is the Shep Pettibone Mix. You can tell they're the same song from the beginning.
In this case with The Boss Mix of Mariah's Fantasy, if you haven't heard the remix before and only knew the album version, you wouldn't know what it was. But you could with the Puff Daddy remix with ODB.
Nothing has to be added or removed for a track to be a remix. Like I mentioned earlier, on a 12" single sometimes just the bass is pumped up, but otherwise is identical. It's not longer or shorter. If you don't have a higher quality stereo system & speakers (like would be in a club), you won't notice any difference from the original mix. These aren't usualy labeled as a remix on the record, probably because of that reason. A short version of a longer album version is not a remix, it's called an edit or a 7" version.For it to be a proper remix something must have been altered in regards to the MIX, even if that is as subtle as muting a few horn blasts on a chorus or adding a tambourine hit in every other bar.
Not everything is a remix.
That’s what I’m getting at. If you “pump the bass up”, you have altered the mix, and therefore I agree it’s proper to call it a remix.Nothing has to be added or removed for a track to be a remix. Like I mentioned earlier, on a 12" single sometimes just the bass is pumped up, but otherwise is identical. It's not longer or shorter. If you don't have a higher quality stereo system & speakers (like would be in a club), you won't notice any difference from the original mix. These aren't usualy labeled as a remix on the record, probably because of that reason. A short version of a longer album version is not a remix, it's called an edit or a 7" version.
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The duet version sounds great in every way, except for JT. Only he could go from "The Prince of Pop" to a complete no name in literally 10 years.And, don't shoot me, but kinda like the JT one too, but that pains me to say that lol
Were there 2 demos + the xscape original version, or is one of these demo's the xscape version?Blue Gangsta (I prefer the 1999 demo but it's a lot better than the 1998 demo)