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I'm sorry I have to take this up, but it's really been bugging me.
We can't look past that Paris was crying out loud at the memorial speech, and that little Blanket also looked very sad while holding on tight to his MJ doll.

I don't think children can fake that, and I don't think MJ would EVER ask his own children to go on a stage and fake being sad like that. Thinking of how he protected them since they where little babies..

So dear hoax posters, whats you're take on this? (this is not an attack! :))
 
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Modulation Alert said:
I can't fathom a single parent among those hoaxers who claim "fake tears" and laughter, really. My heart simply broke watching Paris cry and later when both Prince and Paris accepted the award for their Dad.

MJ would NEVER let his children cry these tears. NEVER.
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Exactly.. I can't understand how people can ignore this, when they spend so much time going into details with everything else..

Watching the memorial I did try to hold back my tears, but I was absolutely devistated when Paris talked in the mic :no:
I feel so sad that the kids was drawn into the tabloid cirkus while they needed their privacy the most :cry:
 
For me it's the biggest proof that MJ's gone. He would never do that to his children.
 
I don't see how conspiracy and hoax theory can relate.
Unless hoax is considered a sort of conspiracy, which I don't agree with.

As a believer of a conspiracy scenario, I believe Michael is sadly gone and there is a big plan behind his death.
I don't doubt the children's emotions for one second. They were absolutely genuine in their grief and it breaks my heart to think how they are struggling to come to terms with the loss of their beloved father.
 
Maria MJ said:
I don't see how conspiracy and hoax theory can relate.
Unless hoax is considered a sort of conspiracy, which I don't agree with.

As a believer of a conspiracy scenario, I believe Michael is sadly gone and there is a big plan behind his death.
I don't doubt the children's emotions for one second. They were absolutely genuine in their grief and it breaks my heart to think how they are struggling to come to terms with the loss of their beloved father.
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oh sorry thats just my bad english (its not my native lanugege) I meen hoax posters then! I'm gonna edit that..

sorry :doh:
 
Modulation Alert said:
I can't fathom a single parent among those hoaxers who claim "fake tears" and laughter, really. My heart simply broke watching Paris cry and later when both Prince and Paris accepted the award for their Dad.

MJ would NEVER let his children cry these tears. NEVER.
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Agreed. Michael would suffer anything to stop his children from shedding those tears and feeling that heartbreak.
 
Calotte12 said:
It fits in mine.

Lets get a look at it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv3I-lkiYtI

IT WAS STAGED.

And I dont feel the point of attacking us ?
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It's not an attack on my part :) I think about hoax myself, and I like you're videos alot! I just want to shed light on everything, also those things that doesent fit in! Further more, I think it's important to show the utmost respect for the kids in this case. I feel their pain so much, and I feel bad to analyze their behavior when 95% factual - their father is dead :no:

Aah the wierd list part 4.. :clap:
 
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Well, I do not know if I'm visually impaired, but I really did not see tears in the eyes none of the family.

June 29, 2009: Katie shopping (4 days after the death of his son). (???)

I really can not understand it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6aU_vAtw-Q


The last thing I would do was go shopping for that I would be devastated and in shock with the death of my dear son. I would have someone else do it for me.

Yes, for me it is not normal.
 
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Yeah and I think it was even 2 days after. crazy.

As I stated it in my video, only blanket cried at the memorial because he didint understand what was going on.
 
Calotte12 said:
Yeah and I think it was even 2 days after. crazy.

As I stated it in my video, only blanket cried at the memorial because he didint understand what was going on.
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Have you read the answer I wrote Calotte12? :)
Safira said:
It's not an attack on my part :) I think about hoax myself, and I like you're videos alot! I just want to shed light on everything, also those things that doesent fit in! Further more, I think it's important to show the utmost respect for the kids in this case. I feel their pain so much, and I feel bad to analyze their behavior when 95% factual - their father is dead :no:

Aah the wierd list part 4.. :clap:
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ashtanga said:
Well, I do not know if I'm visually impaired, but I really did not see tears in the eyes none of the family.

June 29, 2009: Katie shopping (4 days after the death of his son). (???)

I really can not understand it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6aU_vAtw-Q


The last thing I would do was go shopping for that I would be devastated and in shock with the death of my dear son. I would have someone else do it for me.

Yes, for me it is not normal.
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That's the keyword. "Shock." People react differently. You can literally feel maimed by pain and not cry, while your world is crashing down.

I have lost a child myself and it's beyond just a slap in the face for ANY parent to have other people JUDGE your reaction whether you are "grieving appropriately." Losing your child, not matter what age is about the single most horrifying death you can experience, right up what it means for a child to lose their parent. The pain will rip.you.apart. First you are judged on your grief and then just a few months later everyone "in real life" will EXPECT you to have gotten over it. People then don't want to be bothered by any outward sign of grief. I personally find it despicable to be zooming in on those that have lost A CHILD. MJ was Katherine Jackson's BABY, it doesn't matter that he was 50 years old. You carried your child, you felt it grow and move, you gave birth. Have a heart and let her deal with such an incredible pain in any way she knows. Don't judge other people in the middle of the WORST PAIN IN YOUR LIFE that a parent can EVER feel.

And on top of that you have people judging you and mocking you openly that you are not "doing it right."

You lose your dad, your parent- your world. And then to add insult to injury people talk about you staging something. Would it have been sufficient if she had a complete mental breakdown on stage? People are cruel, really cruel sometimes.
Have a heart for crying out loud.
 
Safira said:
Have you read the answer I wrote Calotte12? :)
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I know what you mean but I really think her speech was staged. I didint want to talk about it to show some respect for the children but it was so evident..

And do we really know Paris Jackson after all ?
 
Modulation Alert said:
That's the keyword. "Shock." People react differently. You can literally feel maimed by pain and not cry, while your world is crashing down.

I have lost a child myself and it's beyond just a slap in the face for ANY parent to have other people JUDGE your reaction whether you are "grieving appropriately." Losing your child, not matter what age is about the single most horrifying death you can experience, right up what it means for a child to lose their parent. The pain will rip.you.apart. First you are judged on your grief and then just a few months later everyone "in real life" will EXPECT you to have gotten over it. People then don't want to be bothered by any outward sign of grief. I personally find it despicable to be zooming in on those that have lost A CHILD. MJ was Katherine Jackson's BABY, it doesn't matter that he was 50 years old. You carried your child, you felt it grow and move, you gave birth. Have a heart and let her deal with such an incredible pain in any way she knows. Don't judge other people in the middle of the WORST PAIN IN YOUR LIFE that a parent can EVER feel.

And on top of that you have people judging you and mocking you openly that you are not "doing it right."

You lose your dad, your parent- your world. And then to add insult to injury people talk about you staging something. Would it have been sufficient if she had a complete mental breakdown on stage? People are cruel, really cruel sometimes.
Have a heart for crying out loud.
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LOL. They are not crying, they are laughting. Just investigate in all this, investigate.

Thats not an opinion about how they react, its facts.
 
Modulation Alert said:
That's the keyword. "Shock." People react differently. You can literally feel maimed by pain and not cry, while your world is crashing down.

I have lost a child myself and it's beyond just a slap in the face for ANY parent to have other people JUDGE your reaction whether you are "grieving appropriately." Losing your child, not matter what age is about the single most horrifying death you can experience, right up what it means for a child to lose their parent. The pain will rip.you.apart. First you are judged on your grief and then just a few months later everyone "in real life" will EXPECT you to have gotten over it. People then don't want to be bothered by any outward sign of grief. I personally find it despicable to be zooming in on those that have lost A CHILD. MJ was Katherine Jackson's BABY, it doesn't matter that he was 50 years old. You carried your child, you felt it grow and move, you gave birth. Have a heart and let her deal with such an incredible pain in any way she knows. Don't judge other people in the middle of the WORST PAIN IN YOUR LIFE that a parent can EVER feel.

And on top of that you have people judging you and mocking you openly that you are not "doing it right."

You lose your dad, your parent- your world. And then to add insult to injury people talk about you staging something. Would it have been sufficient if she had a complete mental breakdown on stage? People are cruel, really cruel sometimes.
Have a heart for crying out loud.
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I'm so sorry for upsetting you :no:
Mods can you please close this debate? I don't like where we're heading with this :no:. It was'nt my purpose to make people sad or angry, or to be disrespectful towards the children, I just feel so sad for those kids, and I feel bad that they are having to go through all this!

I'm sorry just close the thread plz? :cry:
 
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Modulation Alert said:
That's the keyword. "Shock." People react differently. You can literally feel maimed by pain and not cry, while your world is crashing down.

I have lost a child myself and it's beyond just a slap in the face for ANY parent to have other people JUDGE your reaction whether you are "grieving appropriately." Losing your child, not matter what age is about the single most horrifying death you can experience, right up what it means for a child to lose their parent. The pain will rip.you.apart. First you are judged on your grief and then just a few months later everyone "in real life" will EXPECT you to have gotten over it. People then don't want to be bothered by any outward sign of grief. I personally find it despicable to be zooming in on those that have lost A CHILD. MJ was Katherine Jackson's BABY, it doesn't matter that he was 50 years old. You carried your child, you felt it grow and move, you gave birth. Have a heart and let her deal with such an incredible pain in any way she knows. Don't judge other people in the middle of the WORST PAIN IN YOUR LIFE that a parent can EVER feel.

And on top of that you have people judging you and mocking you openly that you are not "doing it right."

You lose your dad, your parent- your world. And then to add insult to injury people talk about you staging something. Would it have been sufficient if she had a complete mental breakdown on stage? People are cruel, really cruel sometimes.
Have a heart for crying out loud.
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Ok...

In this case we are talking about that Katie always loved his son unconditionally and who always had a very special relationship. I'm sure she could not bear the loss of his beloved son. -_-

Yes, it really is an absolutely super normal mother who lost her son (MJ) in this manner go shopping. :swoon: So I can say that it is a very strong and courageous to appear in public. :mello:

Each person has their own opinion and I respect that. :)
 
Calotte12 said:
LOL. They are not crying, they are laughting. Just investigate in all this, investigate.

Thats not an opinion about how they react, its facts.
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If you find this a laughing matter than sorry, you really can't be helped. I have read some of the most judgmental statements on hoax boards in this regard. Do you not understand that those that you laugh about have feelings, emotions?
These are living "in the flesh" people who FEEL something when they read this kind of stuff about themselves. (and I'm really not a big Jackson Family Fan myself)
Did you not hear MJ explaining to Barbara Walters that he FEELS these things written about him? Did you not listen? To you they are the subject of your speculations, to them it feels a lot differently.

It's beyond cruel judge someone in apparent shock. It's cruel to laugh about someone's actions and behavior in grief. To analyze it to death to make it fit one's own denial is cruel.

This is exactly the reason why I hope that someone monitor's the kids online activities.

You have no business "knowing" Paris Jackson. She owes you nothing. If anything YOU owe her thoughts of love, compassion and just some plain old goodwill. If you cannot understand, at least find some basic compassion in your heart for someone who has lost their parent, standing on a stage, trying to make the world UNDERSTAND how they are feeling.
Imagine standing on that stage and feeling nothing but lost, devastated and still protecting your younger brother.

I'm going to stop because it is really beyond me how those that profess to love MJ are capable of treating his children in such manner as if they are made from stone.
 
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Safira said:
I'm so sorry for upsetting you :no:
Mods can you please close this debate? I don't like where we're heading with this :no:. It was'nt my purpose to make people sad or angry, or to be disrespectful towards the children, I just feel so sad for those kids, and I feel bad that they are having to go through all this!

I'm sorry just close the thread plz? :cry:
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Safira, don't worry. You didn't upset me. It bothers me when people are playing with the emotions of children, to make videos about other people's grief and then laugh about someone else's grief and whether someone's pain (apparent to me) is "enough".
 
Michael spent the whole of his kid's life protecting them from the media. Now they're followed by paps everywhere. There is no way Michael would put his children through all this, not after he spent so long making sure that they were protected from being followed when they weren't with him. This was a guy who when they went to stores he turned the magazines over so his kids couldnt see what was written about him and no way would he allow them to be chased by the media like they have now and allow them to have to face all the lies the media write about their dad.
 
sloride said:
Michael spent the whole of his kid's life protecting them from the media. Now they're followed by paps everywhere. There is no way Michael would put his children through all this, not after he spent so long making sure that they were protected from being followed when they weren't with him. This was a guy who when they went to stores he turned the magazines over so his kids couldnt see what was written about him and no way would he allow them to be chased by the media like they have now and allow them to have to face all the lies the media write about their dad.
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Can you explain me why he uncovered their face 1-2 weeks before his death ?
 
This bothers me too. But if MJ had to go in hiding for the year to come, they could cry because they knew they had to miss him for a long time and because he had to because he was in danger. That is sad enough on itself to cry about. I'm not saying I believe this, but there could be more reasons to cry for Michael apart from his death.
 
i just think its some fans way of coping. trying to live in denial that this didnt happen. i cant blame them. i try it alot aswell. obviously not to that extent though
 
Closing this...can't see it's needed and you've all made your points.
 
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