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#2 Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
#31 Rock with You

#1 is David Bowie - Life on Mars?

Here is the Top 20.

1. David Bowie - Life on Mars?
2. Michael Jackson - Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
3. Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' On
4. Donna Summer - I Feel Love
5. Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights
6. David Bowie - Heroes
7. Prince - I Wanna Be Your Lover
8. Television - Marquee Moon
9. Fleetwood Mac - Dreams
10. Joy Division - Transmission
11. Bill Withers - Ain't No Sunshine
12. Joni Mitchell - A Case of You
13. Al Green - Let's Stay Together
14. Stevie Wonder - Living for the City
15. Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
16. Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
17. Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
18. Blondie - Heart of Glass
19. Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express
20. Patti Smith - Gloria

More: http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9935-the-200-best-songs-of-the-1970s/?page=10
 
respect77 said:
#2 Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
#31 Rock with You

#1 is David Bowie - Life on Mars?

Here is the Top 20.

1. David Bowie - Life on Mars?
2. Michael Jackson - Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
3. Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' On
4. Donna Summer - I Feel Love
5. Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights
6. David Bowie - Heroes
7. Prince - I Wanna Be Your Lover
8. Television - Marquee Moon
9. Fleetwood Mac - Dreams
10. Joy Division - Transmission
11. Bill Withers - Ain't No Sunshine
12. Joni Mitchell - A Case of You
13. Al Green - Let's Stay Together
14. Stevie Wonder - Living for the City
15. Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
16. Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
17. Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
18. Blondie - Heart of Glass
19. Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express
20. Patti Smith - Gloria

More: http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9935-the-200-best-songs-of-the-1970s/?page=10
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Can't argue with this at all, can we? This is very satisfying but I would of liked to see maybe Jackson five/Jackson's hits in there to.
 
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I think I Want You Back counts as 60s (being released in '69), but they could have had ABC, I'll Be There, perhaps Dancing Machine.
 
They could have had Shake Your Body Down (To The Ground)
 
barbee0715;4164133 said:
^^I agree. And the BeeGees didn't make the top 20??!!
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No Bee Gees in the Top 200 which is pretty attrocious from a '70s list. Here is the full list.

1. David Bowie - Life on Mars?
2. Michael Jackson - Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
3. Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' On
4. Donna Summer - I Feel Love
5. Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights
6. David Bowie - Heroes
7. Prince - I Wanna Be Your Lover
8. Television - Marquee Moon
9. Fleetwood Mac - Dreams
10. Joy Division - Transmission
11. Bill Withers - Ain't No Sunshine
12. Joni Mitchell - A Case of You
13. Al Green - Let's Stay Together
14. Stevie Wonder - Living for the City
15. Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
16. Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
17. Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
18. Blondie - Heart of Glass
19. Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express
20. Patti Smith - Gloria
21. David Bowie - Changes
22. Big Star- Thirteen
23. Bob Dylan - Tangled Up in Blue
24. Led Zeppelin - When The Levee Breaks
25. Curtis Mayfield - Move On Up
26. The Stooges - Search and Destroy
27. The Velvet Underground - Sweet Jane
28. Al Green - Love and Happiness
29. Marvin Gaye - Got to Give It Up
30. Dolly Parton - Jolene
31. Michael Jackson - Rock with You
32. Funkadelic - Can You Get to That
33. Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop
34. X-Ray Spex - Oh Bondage, Up Yours!
35. Buzzocks - Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've?)
36. Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side
37. Suicide - Dream Baby Dream
38. Neil Young - On the Beach
39. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
40. Gil Scott Heron - The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
41. Chic - Good Times
42. Althea and Donna - Uptown Top Ranking
43. Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
44. David Bowie - Young Americans
45. James Brown - Get Up I Feel Like Being a Sex Machine
46. Nick Drake - Pink Moon
47. The Cure - Boys Don't Cry
48. The Clash - London Calling
49. Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again
50. The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight
51. Black Sabbath - War Pigs
52. Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
53. Fela Kuti - Zombie
54. CAN - Vitamin C
55. Sly & The Family Stone - Family Affair
56. Bob Marley & The Wailers - Waiting in Vain
57. The Temptations - Papa Was a Rollin' Stone
58. Parliament - Flash Light
59. Stevie Wonder - Superstition
60. Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda
61. The Beatles - Let It Be
62. The Modern Lovers - Roadrunner
63. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
64. Neil Young - Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)
65. The Rolling Stones - Wild Horses
66. Lou Reed - Perfect Day
67. Big Star - September Gurls
68. Bobby Womack - Across 110th Street
69. Ann Peebles - I Can't Stand The Rain
70. The Slits - Typical Girls
71. 10cc - I'm Not in Love
72. Roy Ayers Ubiquity - Everybody Loves the Sunshine
73. Caetano Veloso - You Don't Know Me
74. Jimmy Cliff - The Harder They Come
75. Leonard Cohen - Famous Blue Raincoat
76. Brian Eno - St. Elmo's Fire
77. The Velvet Underground - Rock & Roll
78. The Who - Baba O'Riley
79. Talking Heads - Life During Wartime
80. ABBA - Dancing Queen
81. The B-52's - Rock Lobster
82. George Harrison - My Sweet Lord
83. The Kinks - Lola
84. The O'Jays - For the Love of Money
85. The Isley Brothers - That Lady
86. Stevie Wonder - As
87. Steely Dan - Peg
88. The Cars - Just What I Needed
89. Blondie - Dreaming
90. The Congos - Fisherman
91. Joy Division - Disorder
92. Suicide - Ghost Riders
93. Patti Smith - Land
94. Kraftwerk - Autobahn
95. Iggy Pop - The Passenger
96. CAN - Future Days
97. Bob Marley & The Wailers - Concrete Jungle
98. Jimi Hendrix - Machine Gun
99. Miles Davis - Right Off
100. Brian Eno - 1/1
101. Neil Young - After the Goldrush
102. Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
103. Led Zeppelin - Immigrant Song
104. The Clash - Train in Vain
105. The Doobie Brothers - What A Fool Believes
106. Joni Mitchell - Free Man In Paris
107. Minnie Riperton - Les Fleurs
108. Earth, Wind & Fire - September
109. Elvis Costello - Alison
110. Daryl Hall & John Oates - She's Gone
111. Judee Sill - The Kiss
112. Sparks - This Town Ain't Big Enough for Both of Us
113. Gang of Four - Damaged Goods
114. Steely Dan - Deacon Blues
115. James Brown - The Payback
116. Richard Hell - Blank Generation
117. Thin Lizzy - The Boys Are Back in Town
118. Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the UK
119. Blue Öyster Cult - (Don't Fear) The Reaper
120. Serge Gainsbourg - Melody
121. NEU! - Hallogallo
122. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
123. Roberta Flack - Killing Me Softly With His Song
124. John Lennon - Jealous Guy
125. Kool & The Gang - Summer Madness
126. Roxy Music - Love Is the Drug
127. Diana Ross - Love Hangover
128. Herbie Hancock - Chameleon
129. Toots & The Maytals - Funky Kingston
130. Electric Light Orchestra - Mr. Blue Sky
131. The Rolling Stones - Miss You
132. The Five Stairsteps - O-o-h Child
133. The Abyssinians - Satta Massagana
134. The Brothers Johnson - Strawberry Letter 23
135. Marvin Gaye - I Want You
136. Isaac Hayes - The Look of Love
137. Gil Scott Heron & Brian Jackson - The Bottle
138. Bauhaus - Bela Lugosi's Dead
139. Throbbing Gristle - Hot on the Heels of Love
140. The Raincoats - In Love
141. The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
142. Cheap Trick - Surrender
143. XTC - Making Plans for Nigel
144. Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Radio, Radio
145. Ramones - Sheena Is a Punk Rocker
146. Donny Hathaway - A Song for You
147. Nina Simone - Baltimore
148. Wire - Outdoor Miner
149. Shuggie Otis - Inspiration Information
150. Grateful Dead - Friend of the Devil
151. Townes Van Zandt - Poncho & Lefty
152. Harry Nilsson - Without You
153. Faces - Ooh La La
154. T. Rex - Metal Guru
155. Chic - I Want Your Love
156. William DeVaugh - Be Thankful for What You Got
157. Bobby Caldwell - What You Won't Do for Love
158. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - American Girl
159. Rose Royce - I'm Going Down
160. The Chi-Lites - Have You Seen Her
161. The Nerves - Hanging on the Telephone
162. Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown
163. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town
164. Don Cherry - Brown Rice
165. Donnie & Joe Emerson - Baby
166. Karen Dalton - Something on Your Mind
167. Milton Nascimento - Tudo o Que Voce Podia Ser
168. Sun Ra - Door of the Cosmos
169. Plastic Bertrand - Ca plane pour moi
170. The Roches - Hammond Song
171. The Walker Brothers - The Electrician
172. The Equals - Black Skin Blue-Eyed Boys
173. Eddie Kendricks - Girl You Need A Change of Mind
174. Dilinger - Cokane in My Brain
175. Giorgio Moroder - Chase
176. Loretta Lynn - The Pill
177. Faust - It's a Rainy Day, Sunshine Girl
178. Siouxsie and the Banshees - Hong Kong Garden
179. Germs - Lexicon Devil
180. The Damned - Neat Neat Neat
181. Van Morrison - Caravan
182. Delta 5 - Mind Your Own Business
183. Todd Rundgren - International Feel
184. The Spinners - Could It Be I'm Falling in Love
185. Thelma Houston - Don't Leave Me This Way
186. The Whispers - And the Beat Goes On
187. Cerrone - Supernature
188. Junior Murvin - Police and Thieves
189. Idris Muhammad - Could Heaven Ever Be Like This
190. Betty Davis - He Was A Big Freak
191. Tom Ze - Dói
192. Brian Eno - Baby's on Fire
193. James Chance & The Contortionists - Contort Yourself
194. Manu Dibango - Soul Makossa
195. Lee Perry & Full Experience - Disco Devil
196. Jorge Ben Jor - Taj Mahal
197. Art Ensemble of Chicago - Théme de Yoyo
198. Waylon Jennings - Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way
199. Patrice Rushen - Haven't You Heard
200. Marianne Faithfull - Broken English
 
^I don't see the Carpenters either. Jeez.
Or Neil Sedaka or Barry Manilow. What kind of magazine is this?
 
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barbee0715 said:
^I don't see the Carpenters either. Jeez. Or Neil Sedaka or Barry Manilow. What kind of magazine is this?
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I've heard of a lot of the performers on this list and there's quite a few punk rock acts and goth groups. So I would guess this is an alternative music magazine or a hipster mag, not a mainstream Top 40 hits magazine. If you know anything about the kind of people who buy these kind of publications, Neil Sedaka & Barry Manilow are not cool, nor are the Bee Gees. :rofl: They're the kind of people who make fun of Phil Collins. If they're mentioned as good at all, it would be in some kind of ironic way. Like it's so "cheesy" that it's good, sort of like the folks who watch Beavis and Butt-head.
 
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Yeah, acts like Television, Kate Bush, & David Bowie in the top 10, tells me who the audience this list is geared towards. Also, Shuggie Otis is not really mainstream known at all (and neither are many acts on the list) and had no hits, he's more underground known like Betty Davis who was Miles Davis ex-wife. I have one of Shuggie's albums. He was a one man band kind of act and he was doing that before Prince. Shuggie recorded the original version of Strawberry Letter 23, which was later made popular by the Brothers Johnson.
 
barbee0715 said:
^^I agree. And the BeeGees didn't make the top 20??!!
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But but most of the disco superstars didn't either (not even the Jacksons).

No Sly & the Family Stone which for an 'alt' music magazine like this is shocking.
 
Psychoniff said:
No Sly & the Family Stone which for an 'alt' music magazine like this is shocking.
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Family Affair is on the list at #55. Also Donna Summer is #4.

But I agree that the Bee Gees are essential in a 70s list.
 
I figured it had to be some kind of avant guard pretentious mag to look at this list. Leaving off the BeeGees and the Carpenters doesn't reflect the 70s to me. Gloria Gaynor should be on there too.
 
barbee0715 said:
I figured it had to be some kind of avant guard pretentious mag to look at this list. Leaving off the BeeGees and the Carpenters doesn't reflect the 70s to me. Gloria Gaynor should be on there too.
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I wouldn't consider this list avant garde, just the taste of alternative music fans. Which is more likely to be Lou Reed or Iggy Pop than Elton John and Paul Simon. If a heavy metal magazine, jazz magazine, or a country music magazine made a 1970s list, I doubt The Carpenters, Bee Gees, or Gloria Gaynor would be on them either. In the same way, a disco magazine is not likely to put The Eagles, Yes, Carole King, Pink Floyd, B.B. King, or KISS on a list. A R&B magazine wouldn't have Dolly Parton on a list. Alternative fans are less likely to be into whatever is mainstream popular, that's why it's called alternative. It's an 'alternate' to Top 40. To a goth music fan, Bauhaus is more important than Michael Jackson. So The Bee Gees might be important to a mainstream audience, they're not to an alternative one. Ozzy Osbourne would be more important to a metal audience. Punk rock was partially a rebellion to progressive rock with 10 minute synth solos and songs about wizards & fairies. The idea was not to be virtuoso musicians, or in some cases not to play well at all. The punk audience would often spit on each other and the bands or do mosh pit diving. You couldn't do that at a Bee Gees concert. It's a different culture.
 
^Spit on each other? Lol. You're right-I never saw that at any concerts. I'm surprised they have any pop/rock/R&B songs listed.
 
Happy to see #7 there, he was just getting started and it was his first big hit. Agree with #1, Life on Mars is a classic and like the whole Hunky Dory album, just incredible and a great early Bowie album, kind of to Bowie what Controversy was to Prince. (For those not in the know, I am a huge fan of Prince and David Bowie). Glad to see Flashlight by Parliament is in that mix too.
 
barbee0715 said:
^Spit on each other? Lol. You're right-I never saw that at any concerts. I'm surprised they have any pop/rock/R&B songs listed.
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Some of it is well known R&B songs, but there are several cult acts that were not really radio hits like Shuggie Otis, Gil Scott Heron, & Betty Davis. There's also songs like Maggot Brain by Funkadelic, rather than one of their more well known tracks like Knee Deep or Give Up The Funk. And Kool & The Gang's Summer Madness instead of Ladies Night. Summer Madness has been sampled a lot, most notably in the DJ Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince song Summertime, but wasn't really a big hit itself. For jazz there's Sun Ra instead of more mainstream acts like George Benson & Herb Alpert. I see Cerrone, who was a disco act, but I think he was more popular in clubs than on the radio. I never actually heard Cerrone on the radio, but relatives had his records. So I don't think that a song being a hit or being mainstream known is the main criteria for this list. I don't even think Rolling Stone would make a list entirely of hits. I remember at one time, RS had the Sex Pistols debut album as the best album of all time, and the Sex Pistols were not really a thing in the US. Their popularity was mainly UK, just like 1970s glam rock was. I would have figured The Beatles would be 1 in RS. I think Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang is there because of its historical importance. When that came out, people said rap was a fad that wouldn't last long. But many of the acts on the list were known to niche audiences, they didn't get Top 40 airplay in the US. The alternate music really blew up in the 1990s with Nirvana & grunge, when the mainstream got into it. Then the major labels started signing all these acts with angry songs like Soundgarden and Alice In Chains. Nirvana was kinda of an offspring of the earlier underground college rock and punk bands, and so were the pop punk groups like Blink 182 and Green Day. The rock media was saying that the grunge bands killed the 1980s glam metal bands (ig. Poison, Warrant, Def Leppard, etc.) from the 1980s.
 
^^And there's the problem-somebody makes a splash and all the major labels sign similar artists and the next thing you know it's gone mainstream. But that I'd subjective, I know, and depends on your taste in music.

I remember when Rappers Delight came out and I, too, said (and hoped) it was a fad that would die. Altho I thought the song was cute.
 
barbee0715 said:
^^And there's the problem-somebody makes a splash and all the major labels sign similar artists and the next thing you know it's gone mainstream. But that I'd subjective, I know, and depends on your taste in music.

I remember when Rappers Delight came out and I, too, said (and hoped) it was a fad that would die. Although I thought the song was cute.
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Younger people generally gravitated to their own music, all the way back to the flappers in the 1920s with big band jazz. Their parents didn't like it. It was the same with rock n roll in the 1950s and the long haired Beatles in the 1960s and hippies in the later 1960s. It was said to cause juvenile delinquency and younger actors like James Dean & Marlon Brando had the rock image in movies. Rap eventually replaced rock as the most popular genre on the charts. Hip hop has a lot of influence besides the music itself like in fashion. The house band (The Roots) on the Tonight Show is a rap band. That most likely wouldn't have happened with Johnny Carson or Jay Leno. Jimmy Fallon is part of the hip hop generation. Will Smith started out as The Fresh Prince and he's one of the most popular actors now. Straight Outta Compton is the highest grossing music biopic ever. Rap lasted when grunge lost popularity after a few years. Rap remained popular longer in the mainstream than disco, hair metal, grunge, psychedelic rock, singer songwriter, light rock, doo wop, and new wave. The younger generations don't know a world where rap has not existed or was not popular.
 
^True. I was watching a James Brown doc the other day and when he went more pure funk, I could really hear the hip hop in it. (I'd always heard that was a major influence). I heard it this time. Interesting doc bc you could see HIS evolution from the band era.

I think that's why I never think of "pop" as a genre because different types of music become "popular" in their day.
 
MJ also had 4 songs in the Top200 of the 1980s.
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Billie Jean was #11 and Human Nature got all the way to #2, Thriller and Beat It also made the Top 50.
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However Prince had 6 songs with When Doves Cry making #6 and Number One - Da da da - Purple Rain!:chillin:
 
mjprince1976 said:
MJ also had 4 songs in the Top200 of the 1980s.
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Billie Jean was #11 and Human Nature got all the way to #2, Thriller and Beat It also made the Top 50.
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However Prince had 6 songs with When Doves Cry making #6 and Number One - Da da da - Purple Rain!:chillin:
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As much as I love Prince, there's no way Purple Rain is the best song of the 80s. It's not even his best song.
 
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