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Does anyone know of a link or an article that has information about Tohme Tohme replacing Michael's security guards after Michael was taken to UCLA? Or is this just a rumor?

Thank you.
 
CantHelpIt28 said:
Does anyone know of a link or an article that has information about Tohme Tohme replacing Michael's security guards after Michael was taken to UCLA? Or is this just a rumor?

Thank you.
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It came from LaToya's first interview with the Mail on Sunday,

After returning from the hospital with the children and her mother to Katherine’s home, they received a troubling call from the Jackson mansion. It was Michael’s long-term assistant Michael Amin, a devout Muslim known as Brother Michael.
He told La Toya that her brother’s Lebanese-born, self-appointed business manager Dr Tohme Tohme had fired all the staff at the Beverly Hills property and at a second rented home in Las Vegas.
‘I want to know how Michael died, and then, at 11pm on the day he dies, all the staff are fired?’ she asks rhetorically. ‘That raised my suspicions.’

When she arrived at the house with her manager and close friend Jeffre Phillips, new security guards were in place
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souce: http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/tvsho...a-Jackson-Michael-murdered--I-felt-start.html

There is video of Larry King speaking with the journalist, about this interview with LaToya also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZCE0koa_G0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU4mEfQ3-OI
 
These are things we do NOT know about Tohme. We don't know what his business IS. He said he was a business-man. He has no background in the entertainment industry, but somehow managed to become president of MJJProductions and gain control of all of Michael's money, in terms of having Power of Attorney that allowed him to sign contracts and make deals FOR Michael. He could write checks, on Michael's money. We do not know if, at the end, his relationship with Michael was hostile. Michael abruptly fired him after the attempt to auction off ALL his belongings from Neverland. He has almost no internet presence, anywhere. (My CAT has more visiblity that Tohme.) His past is undiscoverable. He said he was a doctor. There is no evidence that he is.

We DO know that Tohme was listed at the Colony Capital website at one time. His info was abruptly taken down soon after Michael's death. (I believe some fans have screen-captures, though.) He was listed as an "Ambassador-at-large" for the country of Senegal. The Senegalese government has never heard of him. We DO know that there was a taped phone call from Michael that may very well have been authentic, expressing his FEAR of Tohme and saying he was "mean." We DO know that Tohme refused to go away after he was fired, and was still issuing statements that he remained "in control" of Michael's business affairs. Strangely, even though he'd been fired he was right there at the hospital press-conference, in the center of things. I think that the fact, alone, that Michael said he was "afraid" of this man is enough to suggest that he be looked at carefully. Was the guy a doctor? We don't know. Did Michael think he was? Maybe. Did Tohme have basic medical knowledge? Probably.

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Before Michael's murder, there were people in his camp of whom he told his family he did not trust. I hear Tohme was one of them. an Investigation into his past then began. I don't know what they uncovered or if in fact they uncovered anything at all.

Michael tried to get rid of several people of whom refused to leave his employment just weeks before he would die. All of these people should be investigated fully. They refuse to leave and Michael ends up dead.

Something is wrong with that picture.
 
Moddie777 said:
Before Michael's murder, there were people in his camp of whom he told his family he did not trust. I hear Tohme was one of them. an Investigation into his past then began. I don't know what they uncovered or if in fact they uncovered anything at all.

Michael tried to get rid of several people of whom refused to leave his employment just weeks before he would die. All of these people should be investigated fully. They refuse to leave and Michael ends up dead.

Something is wrong with that picture.
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What is alarming to me is the total invisibility of Tohme. Usually in business when growing a career, there is at least a period of PR to get one's name out there. When at the TOP, such as Anschutz, maybe not so much anymore. Tohme was no ambassador. Probably not a doctor, either. No proof of that has ever been offered. In a way, he constructed a "personae" that is not based on reality. He was president of MJJProductions, with absolutely no experience in the entertainment industry? He is not a lawyer. What IS he? That little visibility itself is a concern. What is he hiding? What has his REAL work been?

When the very first reports of Michael's death came out, Tohme! was listed as the doctor who was with him! Anyone remember that? That was quickly corrected and Murray's name came up. Maybe Tohme didn't have to convince the world he was a doctor? Maybe he just had to convince Michael? When he was with Michael, was HE administering drugs? Propofol? If so, where did he get those drugs, with no prescription-writing capability?
 
Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention this, I think I touched on it in another thread before:

About MJ's security. Here's what I was told about Micheal Amir, aka Brother Michael.

In less than a 15 month span of time, here's how his titles read.

1) Michael's personal Driver

2) Part of Michael's security detail along with personal driver repsonsibilities

3) He claimed to be Michael Jackson Spokesperson

3) He claimed to be Michael Jackson's personal assistant

Around this time, MJ tells his family, he does not trust Michael Amir

4) Weeks before Michael's murder, Michael Amir tells people, he is Chief of Staff

Do you appoint people Chief of Staff when you do not trust them?
 
How did this fucker even end up in MJs inner circle?

I have a vague memory of Karen Faye claiming that Dr Tohme is Jermaines wife, Halima, ex-husband.

I may be wrong.. but anyone else think have seen Karen saying this?
 
nobody knows who this guy is or where he came from
Jermaine sure as hell has a few questions he needs to answer!!

Vici said:
I have a vague memory of Karen Faye claiming that Dr Tohme is Jermaines wife, Halima, ex-husband.
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Thome is the ex brother-in-law of AEG's Randy Phillips if you're talking about family connections
 
snowhite said:
nobody knows who this guy is or where he came from
Jermaine sure as hell has a few questions he needs to answer!!



Thome is the ex brother-in-law of AEG's Randy Phillips if you're talking about family connections
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Yeah, I know that BUT I think KarenFaye said that Halimas ex-husband is in fact Dr Tohme. I have a memory of that. Dont wanna state that as a fact but think she wrote that a time ago. ANyone else knowing something about this?
 
yeah, i remember that as well about thome and jermaines wife. and remember it was jermaine who introduced mj to thome in the first place...
 
Vici said:
Yeah, I know that BUT I think KarenFaye said that Halimas ex-husband is in fact Dr Tohme. I have a memory of that. Dont wanna state that as a fact but think she wrote that a time ago. ANyone else knowing something about this?
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It has been on other boards that KF wrote that on her facebook, I never saw it myself but several people said that on KOPboard so I think it is most likely factual that she did put that on her facebook- but that doesn't mean its true. Lies run sprints remember. I personally don't believe that Halima is the ex-wife because of the way they were interacting after MJ death at the hospital. There is a rumor now on boards that she is a cousin of Thome, maybe. But maybe its a rumor to hurt Jermaine.

Maybe Jermaine met Thome thru Barrack.

Some interesting links on Barrack:

http://www.arabbankers.org/shared/custompage/custompage.jsp?_event=view&_id=445505_U127360__149280


Barrack_sm.jpg
Thomas J. Barrack, Jr. is the Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer of Colony Capital, LLC and Colony Advisors, LLC. Colony has acquired in excess of 10 billion dollars in assets and has 14 offices in 12 countries.
Prior to the formation of Colony in 1991, Mr. Barrack was a principal with the Robert M. Bass Group (RMBG), the principal investment vehicle of the Fort Worth, Texas investor Robert M. Bass. Prior, Mr. Barrack also served in the Reagan Administration as Deputy Under Secretary of the Department of the Interior.
Mr. Barrack holds a B.A. and a J.D., and serves on the Board of Directors of a number of companies including, Continental Airlines, Inc., First Republic Bank, Korea First Bank, and Megaworld Properties & Holdings.
Speaker at: Perspectives & Trends in Real Estate Investing (10/7/2004).


http://www.arabbankers.org/shared/custompage/custompage.jsp?_event=view&_id=445505_U127360__129365
assoc Barrack belongs
http://www.allbusiness.com/company-activities-management/financial-performance/12371148-1.html
ranking of money mgmt firms, Colony – Barrack
http://www.forbes.com/2006/09/21/americas-400-richest-biz_cx_mm_06rich400_0921richintro.html
ranking of Barrack $1 billion

Remember Jermaine went to the Middle East before the trial, he was IMO making business contacts for MJ which I think is why MJ ended up in Dubai.
Barrack was a neighbor, he probably was at that support party for MJ & thats most likely where they connected IMO.
 
Moddie777 said:
Before Michael's murder, there were people in his camp of whom he told his family he did not trust. I hear Tohme was one of them. an Investigation into his past then began. I don't know what they uncovered or if in fact they uncovered anything at all.

Michael tried to get rid of several people of whom refused to leave his employment just weeks before he would die. All of these people should be investigated fully. They refuse to leave and Michael ends up dead.

Something is wrong with that picture.
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I agree. And the scary thing is, it was Dr. Thome Thome, whome Michael feared and fired, who appeared at the announcent of Michael's death.....hmmm.....:scratch:

he doesn't seem all too shocked in this picture.
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kasume said:
I agree. And the scary thing is, it was Dr. Thome Thome, whome Michael feared and fired, who appeared at the announcent of Michael's death.....hmmm.....:scratch:

he doesn't seem all too shocked in this picture.
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He appears a little shocked & overwhelmed to me. I don't know if it would be fair to judge a person by one pic. Jermaine is always outwardly emotional to me. Frank doesn't seem very emotional to me for someone who told the kids their father was dead. So I think its hard to tell.

Thome was called out by Joe on Larry King & I noticed gave the money back (5.5 million cash?) soon after.

He is a fair to question & maybe he is a bad guy but I don't think he's the bad guy because Dileo purposefully gave the media the signed paper that said Thome was fired, probably handed them the lawsuit papers from back in the early 90s, probably got those papers from the estate's hired PI's & brought forward the Rev June Gatlin who said she had taped MJ with his permission (which I don't believe MJ would have given his permission). I hate to think MJ was relying on her for advice. I am sure she is in the process of writing a book. When Gatlin first came out on ET she never mentioned how MJ was afraid of Thome. Wouldn't she have gone to the police with that info?

link:
http://www.etonline.com/index.html?tag=june-gatlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-D_s9nXyAA

Dileo is a masterful spinner & I think he's the one to watch.
 
I would like to know why the staff took orders from someone who was supposed to be fired. Were they not told. Why didn't Frank step in?
 
jrsfan said:
He appears a little shocked & overwhelmed to me. I don't know if it would be fair to judge a person by one pic. Jermaine is always outwardly emotional to me. Frank doesn't seem very emotional to me for someone who told the kids their father was dead. So I think its hard to tell.

Thome was called out by Joe on Larry King & I noticed gave the money back (5.5 million cash?) soon after.

He is a fair to question & maybe he is a bad guy but I don't think he's the bad guy because Dileo purposefully gave the media the signed paper that said Thome was fired, probably handed them the lawsuit papers from back in the early 90s, probably got those papers from the estate's hired PI's & brought forward the Rev June Gatlin who said she had taped MJ with his permission (which I don't believe MJ would have given his permission). I hate to think MJ was relying on her for advice. I am sure she is in the process of writing a book. When Gatlin first came out on ET she never mentioned how MJ was afraid of Thome. Wouldn't she have gone to the police with that info?

link:
http://www.etonline.com/index.html?tag=june-gatlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-D_s9nXyAA

Dileo is a masterful spinner & I think he's the one to watch.
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Interesting theory! I believe they were working together. The businessmen I mean.
Oh, here is a little gem.
Halima Rashid (Jermaine's wife) is Tohme's cousin, Jermaine introduced Michael to Tohme.
 
jrsfan, I feel the same way as you do about your comment saying Frank Dileo is the one to watch. Absolutely. But let us not forget members of MJ's security team.
 
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