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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

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Anyone planning to attend the event on June 21st?

John van Nest has cut several solo demos with Michael between 1979 and 1981.




I worked with Michael on many occasions...first in 1979 shortly following the release of "Off The Wall", which was recorded at my old studio, Image Recording, when it was owned by its former owner, Allen Zentz.

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at 12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00!". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.
 
Fuzball said:
As of now, there are at least 25 unreleased songs with (nearly) full vocals in the vault.

  1. Nightline
  2. Hot Street
  3. Slapstick
  4. Make a Wish
  5. Neverland Landing
  6. State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
  7. Victory
  8. Buffalo Bill
  9. Chicago 1945
  10. Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
  11. Throwin' Your Life Away
  12. Serious Effect
  13. Work That Body
  14. If You Don't Love Me
  15. Truth 'Bout Youth
  16. Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
  17. X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
  18. Seeing Voices
  19. Another Day (1999 mix)
  20. What More Can I Give (solo version)
  21. Get Your Weight Off Me
  22. Tomboy
  23. Turning Me Off
  24. Monkey Business (unreleased 1991 mix)
  25. Crack Kills
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Interesting list my friend. We could add "Make Or Break" which is complete according to Joe Vogel's memories despite contradictory information. I have doubts about "Truth About Youth" and the Christmas song regarding MJ's vocals.
 
Fuzball said:
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Anyone planning to attend the event on June 21st?

John van Nest has cut several solo demos with Michael between 1979 and 1981.




I worked with Michael on many occasions...first in 1979 shortly following the release of "Off The Wall", which was recorded at my old studio, Image Recording, when it was owned by its former owner, Allen Zentz.

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at 12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00!". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.
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Anyone going to this event? I'll be curious to know more about the song "Rich Girl" that Brad Buxer already mentioned.
 
SmoothMel7 said:
Interesting list my friend. We could add "Make Or Break" which is complete according to Joe Vogel's memories despite contradictory information. I have doubts about "Truth About Youth" and the Christmas song regarding MJ's vocals.
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Make or Brake has full usable vocals? Did Vogel rule out any nonsense LV?
 
I still give kudos to the Thriller Era and technically Victory, for having some of the greatest outtakes easily.

Hot Street
Behind The Mask
Buffalo Bill
Dream Away
Sunset Driver
Chicago 1945
Carousel
The Toy

Then you can add on Anka tracks. It's an incredible Set of songs, to contrast a few plain songs (Trouble, Got The Hots).
 
Fuzball said:
Make or Brake has full usable vocals? Did Vogel rule out any nonsense LV?
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That's what he said anyway... I have some doubts because he's the first person to say that.

firmware-god said:
Except you are missing the Invincible and post Invincible sessions. There are 25 more songs. Ready for release.
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It would be nice to have the names of the songs.
 
Fuzball said:
As of now, there are at least 25 unreleased songs with (nearly) full vocals in the vault.

  1. Nightline
  2. Hot Street
  3. Slapstick
  4. Make a Wish
  5. Neverland Landing
  6. State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
  7. Victory
  8. Buffalo Bill
  9. Chicago 1945
  10. Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
  11. Throwin' Your Life Away
  12. Serious Effect
  13. Work That Body
  14. If You Don't Love Me
  15. Truth 'Bout Youth
  16. Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
  17. X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
  18. Seeing Voices
  19. Another Day (1999 mix)
  20. What More Can I Give (solo version)
  21. Get Your Weight Off Me
  22. Tomboy
  23. Turning Me Off
  24. Monkey Business (unreleased 1991 mix)
  25. Crack Kills
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+ Dreaming, Dancing for Love, Dream Away, What You Do To Me, The Loser, World of Candy...
 
Fuzball said:
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Anyone planning to attend the event on June 21st?

John van Nest has cut several solo demos with Michael between 1979 and 1981.




I worked with Michael on many occasions...first in 1979 shortly following the release of "Off The Wall", which was recorded at my old studio, Image Recording, when it was owned by its former owner, Allen Zentz.

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at 12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00!". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.
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Don’t bother if you are looking to hear new stuff
 
Interesting how "unknown" titles - words - are guarded like actual audio. lmao.

Not that anyone has an obligation to tell. But why even mention it ? Sad.
 
0% chance of completing it. The only sensical lyrics are “can’t cope with changes. What are you trying to do to me?” The rest is mumbles. But it’s great as a demo. The choir on it is phenomenal. There are two epic vocal solos on the demo from members of the choir


That's what Damien shields said before on song changes
 
SmoothMel7 said:
Interesting list my friend. We could add "Make Or Break" which is complete according to Joe Vogel's memories despite contradictory information. I have doubts about "Truth About Youth" and the Christmas song regarding MJ's vocals.
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Make or Break isn't complete.

"Make or Break was a song written by Michael and myself. It was never fully finished. There was a demo incomplete vocal. There is a partial lyric as well. It was the third piece of music I created using the Synclavier. I like its potential as a song." - John Barnes
 
Sisoqqq said:
0% chance of completing it. The only sensical lyrics are “can’t cope with changes. What are you trying to do to me?” The rest is mumbles. But it’s great as a demo. The choir on it is phenomenal. There are two epic vocal solos on the demo from members of the choir


That's what Damien shields said before on او song changes
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Fuzball said:
As of now, there are at least 25 unreleased songs with (nearly) full vocals in the vault.

  1. Nightline
  2. Hot Street
  3. Slapstick
  4. Make a Wish
  5. Neverland Landing
  6. State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
  7. Victory
  8. Buffalo Bill
  9. Chicago 1945
  10. Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
  11. Throwin' Your Life Away
  12. Serious Effect
  13. Work That Body
  14. If You Don't Love Me
  15. Truth 'Bout Youth
  16. Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
  17. X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
  18. Seeing Voices
  19. Another Day (1999 mix)
  20. What More Can I Give (solo version)
  21. Get Your Weight Off Me
  22. Tomboy
  23. Turning Me Off
  24. Monkey Business (unreleased 1991 mix)
  25. Crack Kills
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You’re missing the following:
- “World of Candy” from 2003 which was confirmed by Adez to have a full vocal.
- “I Have This Dream” from c. 2005-2006 which was confirmed by Damien Shields to be fully complete and ready for release.
- “Dreamin’” from 2006 with will.i.am- full chorus vocals recorded by MJ with will.i.am rapping on verses.
 
BlackAnon said:
Make or Break isn't complete.

"Make or Break was a song written by Michael and myself. It was never fully finished. There was a demo incomplete vocal. There is a partial lyric as well. It was the third piece of music I created using the Synclavier. I like its potential as a song." - John Barnes
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Maybe this has a similar history as TMO. Bottrell wasn't aware LV were recorded by Bruce at Westlake.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
When did redone say that he had a song that had enough MJ vocals to release as an MJ track? I only remember him saying that he would have to get other vocalists to finish it.
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Hot Fun In The Summertime? With Mary J Blige and.... someone? I think there were a few heads involved in that one for Michael in 2010. Not sure if that's the one.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
When did redone say that he had a song that had enough MJ vocals to release as an MJ track? I only remember him saying that he would have to get other vocalists to finish it.
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While the results are far from the finished product, RedOne, whose real name is Nadir Khayat, believes he has enough material to work on for a record, although any release would have to involve agreement with Jackson’s record label and estate.
Recalling his collaboration with Jackson, he said: “The music we were doing was good, really good…very energetic, uplifting. It’s sad that we never finished the material.
“Michael always has been focused on having hits, not having songs, so he always records a lot of songs and takes the best of them and that’s his formula which I love. We were doing good quality music and it’s never been finished.”https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/producer-redone-eyes-michael-jackson-release-959665/
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I think it's possible that the song RedOne mentioned that could be released is indeed called "Dancing For Love", RedOne said on an interview not too long ago that the song is about love.

Or maybe not since "love" is such a common theme in a lot of MJ's songs lol. Could be a different song entirely.
 
ChanceToDance said:
I think it's possible that the song RedOne mentioned that could be released is indeed called "Dancing For Love", RedOne said on an interview not too long ago that the song is about love.

Or maybe not since "love" is such a common theme in a lot of MJ's songs lol.
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Dancing For Love, thanks!
 
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