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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

ChanceToDance said:
Dark Lady is... completely unlike what I expected which isn't necessarily a bad thing, sounds like a hip-hop song even. Need to hear more to form a concrete opinion on it, I hope there's more snippets on the way. Surreal that we're even hearing it, thought this track would remain obscure forever lol.
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Tbf tho, it seems to be tampered with quite a bit. Can’t say anything on this one.

Remember What I told you is a holy grail for me now too, it’s just so beautiful.

Innocent man has a complety different vibe to it than I expected, but I dig it. Cool vocals. Wish the other snippets were in this quality too.

Changes is just supercool, really takes you to church. Same with Adore You which is just so haunting, very cool.

Rocker is dope but too short and low quality to really have a true opinion on it.
 
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i saw someone say on twitter that the date for Remember What I Told You is June 15 2009??
do we have any source for that or are people just saying whatever? i thought Damien said its 08
 
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kai said:
Someone seriously needs to check the LordJackson server.
I’m 100% sure they’re already deep in discussion about Adore You, TYLA, and all the other snippets.
And I just know they’re saying stuff like:

You can clearly hear the AI in it… the voice has a weird accent… that’s not MJ.”

Just like they did with MiB — remember when they compared the chorus from the seminar version and the HQ leak?
They were literally listening to the same exact snippet, and still said:

“It’s AI.”💀💀

You can’t make this stuff up 😂
Someone needs to screenshot those takes and start a funny thread ASAP 😭


I'll continue with more snippets i got long ago.
Rocker (shitty snippets starting at 0:12):

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Remember What I Told You:

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Dangerous This Is It Rehearsals (proof they rehearsed at least once with MJ??):

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Omg! I never thought I would ever hear those songs. Wow! MJ was truly working on some incredible material!

BIG THANK YOU to you and everyone who shared those snippets.

Remember What I Told You is my fav actually. Hopefully we will get to hear it in full one day 😃
 
I remember for the longest time I thought that MJ was not even working on anything towards the end. Looking back at all the info we have gotten since then, that he was actually actively working on stuff and making plans. Awesome to hear what he was doing.
 
mjfan_93 said:
Omg! I never thought I would ever hear those songs. Wow! MJ was truly working on some incredible material!

BIG THANK YOU to you and everyone who shared those snippets.

Remember What I Told You is my fav actually. Hopefully we will get to hear it in full one day 😃
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Where did these snippets come from? I am at work atm so will listen to when home, I'm assuming these songs will blow my mind since the current state of the music industry is poor and modern songs are done with hardly any effort. Would really like to find out where the snippets come from and if there is anyway to get more?
 
It's hard for me to really form an opinion on any of these songs because they are just snippets. So maybe my take is wrong. But here it goes:

Nothing here seems radio-friendly and completed. These are really only "hits" and "gems" in the eyes of die hard MJ fans like us.

So since these don't fit the completed criteria of the Estate, AND they are not anything that would become a hit, the Estate has zero interest ever releasing these songs. These won't make much money. And for the E$tate, that's all the matters.

What are you supposed to do with songs that are not radio-friendly and not completed enough?

I guess you could release a box set, but for the Estate, it's not worth the time, effort, and money.
 
WolfMJJ said:
Where did these snippets come from? I am at work atm so will listen to when home, I'm assuming these songs will blow my mind since the current state of the music industry is poor and modern songs are done with hardly any effort. Would really like to find out where the snippets come from and if there is anyway to get more?
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My assumption is that these all come from the same source - the 2012 SME hack. Can explain why otherwise-unreachable tracks have somehow ended up in the hands of collections.
 
SeriousFX said:
My assumption is that these all come from the same source - the 2012 SME hack. Can explain why otherwise-unreachable tracks have somehow ended up in the hands of collections.
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I suspect that at least "Just Remember" and "Rocker" may have come from the Making HIStory with MJ seminar from 2022, the same seminar that songs like "Water", "Michael's Affirmation", and "Adore You" came from. Brad Buxer and Michael Prince were in good spirits that day so they let the audience pick whatever songs they wanted to hear. The recordings appear to be in similar quality too.
 
ChanceToDance said:
I suspect that at least "Just Remember" and "Rocker" may have come from the Making HIStory with MJ seminar from 2022, the same seminar that "Michael's Affirmation" and "Adore You" came from. Brad Buxer and Michael Prince were in good spirits that day so they let the audience pick whatever song they wanted to hear. The recordings appear to be in similar quality too.
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That means the full recordings of those are in the hands of some people. Only a matter of time until they all leak I guess.
 
It’s hard to judge based on snippets, but initial thoughts:

“Changes” is still very meh. Not my favorite.

“Dark Lady” isn’t at all what I was expecting based on the multiple descriptions. Hearing MJ over 2000s hip hop drums is a trip lol. I’m dying to hear more because this one’s a bit hard to make out.

“Innocent Man” is a bit of a letdown. He sounds extraordinary and the production is lovely, but the melody doesn’t do much for me.

“Remember What I Told You” is absolutely stunning. I don’t need to hear more to know that I love it.

“Rocker” sounds cool! Would love to hear the guitar solo I’ve heard comes in later on.

As it stands, “Dark Lady” and “Remember What I Told You” are at the top of my list. But even for the snippets I’m not crazy for, today has been absolutely insane. Thank you to everyone who shared these!
 
It's interesting that from what we've been hearing so far it seems that Michael was sort of distancing from pop music in his final years. Sure, we know he was working with producers like Will.i.am and RedOne, but judging from the songs that are primarily written by him it seems to all have been gothic, ballads, hip-hop, classical music, movie scores, anything but pop music. If Michael was still around I think these would most definitely have been the kind of music we'd be see him put out after TII. Just stuff made out of passion instead of chart hits.
 
My thoughts on the snippets.
Innocent Man: Lovely melody but not something to lose my mind with. Good to hear tho

Dark Lady: Tbh I was expecting it to be different but I will have to hear more to decide if it's something I like.

Rocker: Sounds phenomenal. I can imagine Mike going wild with on the song. Might be one of the last "bangers" in the vault.

Adore You: My absolute favourite. This haunting feeling, this powerful choir, all building up to an Epic ending. Bravo! I always knew that this song should be special.

Just Remember: Seems to be up there too. This could be easily one of his most beautiful ballads. But still we need to head more.
 
NetflexKing said:
My thoughts on the snippets.
Innocent Man: Lovely melody but not something to lose my mind with. Good to hear tho

Dark Lady: Tbh I was expecting it to be different but I will have to hear more to decide if it's something I like.

Rocker: Sounds phenomenal. I can imagine Mike going wild with on the song. Might be one of the last "bangers" in the vault.

Adore You: My absolute favourite. This haunting feeling, this powerful choir, all building up to an Epic ending. Bravo! I always knew that this song should be special.

Just Remember: Seems to be up there too. This could be easily one of his most beautiful ballads. But still we need to head more.
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Rocker is just a nearly completed but also distorted chorus and mumbling, so you pretty much heard the best
 
ChanceToDance said:
It's interesting that from what we've been hearing so far it seems that Michael was sort of distancing from pop music in his final years. Sure, we know he was working with producers like Will.i.am and RedOne, but judging from the songs that are primarily written by him it seems to all have been gothic, ballads, hip-hop, classical music, movie scores, anything but pop music. If Michael was still around I think these would most definitely have been the kind of music we'd be see him put out after TII. Just stuff made out of passion instead of chart hits.
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It's probably obvious, but I just realized that practically all the tracks of the 2 posthumous albums (except Another Day and Much Too Soon) are pop or were remixed to make them pop, something very different from what Michael was working on, and I think it's stupid that Estate considers that only pop songs can be hits
 
These snippets are brilliant, even though they're short, they give us an insight into Michael's last works

Thank you for those who shared the snippets. I have no idea how the traders keep these things to themselves, if I got sent Ghost Of Another Lover by someone, I'd be messaging @Themidwestcowboy @AlwaysThere @Fuzball sharing it with the guys. Probably why I'm not a trader 😅
 
Derek1984 said:
Who Do You Know and Lovin' You are the only songs that I go back to. The best of the unreleased stuff we have been given so far, IMO.
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The best album cuts for me are:

1. Monkey Business
2. Chicago 1945
3. Hot Street
4. Nite Line
5. Cheater
6. Xscape
7. We've Had Enough
8. She Was Loving Me (Now Chicago)
9. Behind The Mask
10. Love Never Felt So Good

All are truly fantastic songs.
 
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I've heard most of these songs discussed recently, years and years ago. In their full length. Im glad the fans are able to get an idea of them. I always said Rocker had SO much potential. Innocent Man is beautiful, Remember What I Told You and Adore You are magical just like Speechless. Such a shame these songs never reached their final stages.
 
travis3000 said:
I've heard most of these songs discussed recently, years and years ago. In their full length. Im glad the fans are able to get an idea of them. I always said Rocker had SO much potential. Innocent Man is beautiful, Remember What I Told You and Adore You are magical just like Speechless. Such a shame these songs never reached their final stages.
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Agreed, these songs even in their rawest form sound amazing. I've been strongly desiring to hear those songs ever since I read your descriptions years ago, when I was a lurker in this forum. Can't believe we're finally hearing it for ourselves.

A couple of questions: If you had to pick one, are you able to say which of those songs that leaked (could even be unleaked!) is your favorite or that you like the most?

And also a bit more of a specific one, but is there a part of those songs which hasn't been heard yet that was the most remarkable to you? Like a bridge, an outro, a section, etc.?
 
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Wow, what a great day for MJ fans!
Still cant believe it. Sad though that MJ couldnt finish those songs.

I have a question to all the insiders/collectors:

Do you know if there is at least one post-trial song that has enough proper/complete vocals and could be released (on an Xscape kinda album)?

Not counting the will.i.am and RedOne songs. I mean stuff MJ started by himself and worked on with BB, MP and Neff-U. I would consider a song „complete enough“ if it has at least the amount and vocal quality of the Hollywood Tonight demo.
 
travis3000 said:
The best album cuts for me are:

1. Monkey Business
2. Chicago 1945
3. Hot Street
4. Nite Line
5. Cheater
6. Xscape
7. We've Had Enough
8. She Was Loving Me (Now Chicago)
9. Behind The Mask
10. Love Never Felt So Good

All are truly fantastic songs.
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In no order:
Xscape
Streetwalker (both 87 and 88 versions)
Cheater
Hot Street
Carousel
Chicago 1945
Do You Know Where Your Children Are (1986)
A Place With No Name
Sunset Driver
Price of Fame
TYLA or Serious Effect
 
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