BillieJean84
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I believe it was accidental, however- the thing that gets to me is that mj was not even on the floor when they tried to revive him. any stupid idiot will tell you to do that.
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MJ#1WhoIsIt
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Accidental = Michael Jackson asked for drugs on June 25, 2009 which caused his death, then there's nothing to Investigate.
Just one thing wrong with that The Coroner and LAPD didnt believe it was an "Accident" at all by no Medical or Law Standard, Im glad they saw it differently and classified it for what it is a "Homicide" a term the coroner uses that means a death was caused by the action/s of another human. A court will decide whether the homicide constitutes a charge of manslaughter, negligence, murder 1, capital murder, but no Accident.
Heath Ledger - Death Certificate "Accidental Overdose"
Date: February 6, 2008
Drugs: Six drugs: painkillers oxycodone and hydrocodone, sleep aid temazepam and sedatives diazepam (AKA Valium), alprazolam (AKA Xanax) and doxylamine
Anna Nicole Smith - Death Certificate "Accidental Overdose"
Date: February 8, 2007
Drugs: Eleven drugs, including chloral hydrate (sleep aid) and several sedatives/muscle relaxants: clonazepam (AKA Klonopin), lorazepam (AKA Ativan), oxazepam (AKA Serax) and diazepam (AKA Valium)
Gerald Levert - Death Certificate "Accidental Overdose"
Date: November 10, 2006
Drugs: Six drugs: painkillers Vicodin, Percocet and Dextropropoxyphene (AKA Darvocet), sedative/anxiety medication alprazolam (AKA Xanax) and two non-prescription antihistamines
Elvis Aaron Presley - Death Certificate "Accidental Overdose"
Date: August 16, 1977
Drugs: As many as 14 different drugs, including codeine (painkiller) and methaqualone, AKA Quaaludes (sedative)
Bruce Lee - Death Certificate "Accidental Overdose"
Date: July 20, 1973
Drug: Equagesic (painkiller)
Marilyn Monroe - Death Certificate "Accidental Overdose"
Date: August 5, 1962
Drugs: Pentobarbital (AKA Nembutal) and chloral hydrate (sleeping pills)
Michael Joseph Jackson - Death Certificate "Homicide"
Date: June 25, 2009
Acute Propofol intoxication due to an Intravenous injection from another.
Autumn II
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THANK YOU! I think "they" tried at first to make it look "accidental," but something went wrong with the plan. Not even the LAPD think it was "accidental," as you pointed out. I just hope they look deeply enough. . . .
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Where the IDIOTS went wrong first was their HATE for Michael then their GREED for HIS MONEY he WORKED for then finally the OVER-KILLED with enough NARCOTICS to kill an ELEPHANt. I tell you what and anyone that wants to call Michael Jackson's MURDER an "Accident or Negligence" go out on the Internet and Google Michael Jackson's Autopsy, Death Certificate and you will find tons of information that LEGALLY with the MASS AMOUNTS OF LETHALS NARCOTICS found in Michael there is no way NO-ONE could have made a MISTAKE in administering or injecting him except to KILL him on June 25, 2009, this little game of Confusion about what happen to Michael Jackson is still being played but as I was told "you cant do nothing with the TRUTH", they MURDERED Michael and they will pay and they can use every Media, every Tabloid, every Forum and every Fan that lets them but its still gonna come up MURDER and Im so Glad LAPD ruled it HOMICIDE because there is no stature of LIMITATION on MURDER in the USA and LAPD and The FEDS know what happen and I really believe they know "WHO all are RESPONSIBLE" for Murdering Michael but Knowing and Proving are two different things in LAW, so these HOODRICH MOGULS that Murdered Michael Jackson that started out as NOTHING but BROKE CPAs and ended as CORPORATIONS will end up as CONVICTS that commit MURDER or their only other choice is to continue to KILL each other and call it SUICIDE like they did Jordan's Dad, because No LIMITATION is a Life Time and someone is GONNA TALK and LAPD knows this so Lets GET IT ON ! I got my Popcorn and Im sit back and watch this made for Life by Life Movie as they Drop like Flies.
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Actually, there were NO "narcotics" in Michael's system, but I know what you mean. "Narcotics" would have meant morphine, Demerol, Oxy, or heroin. None of those were found in his system. Instead, among other things, there was this weird drug, "propofol," that clears the body very quickly. I think somebody panicked that traces would be found ?
I think the LAPD know perfectly well who killed him. What's at stake are campaign contributions, and coercion, and maybe pay-offs. A cop's salary isn't very much. . . .
I hope you are RIGHT, that someone's gonna talk. I just can't believe that out of all those stage-hands, sound and lighting technicians, and all those dancers, and extras, and so on, there isn't one or more HONEST person? A person with a conscience?
It really comes down to one, basic, thing. Was Michael or was he not in shape to do the concerts? If he was not, then he was worth more dead than alive. He was packing to go to London. "They" could not let him leave, if he wasn't going to finish the concerts. A cancellation would have meant financial disaster. The implications are, that this is capital MURDER. The incentive to keep it quiet would be immense.
(Not sure that Jordan's dad fits into this, because there was no real motive for corporate murder after all these years. Whatever, though. . point taken.)
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I was looking at a closeup photo of him at fitting. He was extremely thin. All those drugs that were given to him with such a small frame in combination would kill anyone. When given by IV it gets to your system faster if taken by mouth. The weight is an issue as opposed to what he was given.
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Jordan Dad could have begun the Dominoe Effect he was too risky from the beginning, I believe since these Molestations Charges are being said to be all Lies by some, that Jordan Dad encounter the Major Players when this was being orchestrated they where even more desperate back then than they where on June 25, so they where doing alot of their own foot work back then, after all he was the one who lead the charge against Michael and the one whom wheter True of False had to deal with Jordan wanting to the tell Truth after Michael's Murder, so maybe he just couldnt take it anymore or maybe they used the dad to shut Jordan up which ever Dad ends up with a smoking gun in his hand gone to meet Michael. Ive never believed in the concerts so to me the concerts never where an Issue "except" to get Michael back in the USA in that House and to finish what they started two decades ago, to me there where NEVER going to be any CONCERTS in London or no where else for two reasons first it was all a Lie to set him up gain his trust and second if anyone would have gotten to see Michael Perform they would NEVER had a Chance to Kill him again, at least with the assumption of Drugs because all you would have seen was a True and Healthy Entertainer that was putting on his last show to retire and raise his 3 children. All reports UnOfficial and Official will prove Michael was Healthy and had no LIFE THREATING ISSUES. Its no doubt they will begin to tell on each other, sickness, disease, tragedies will start to creep into their BloodMoney everyday lives, marriages, children lives they will know they really are cursed by their own hands and they will start to believe Death is around every corner, FEAR will grip them like THRILLER and besides all it takes is just "1" person to pull his card out and the entire House will FALL just "1".
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I'm a little concerned about muddying the water here? We have made a lot of progress here in the I.U. with theories, but those in power are looking for ways to discredit fan-investigations. In the Chandler case, it makes no sense to kill the father. He wasn't going to spill. They would have killed Jordie, instead?
With that said, see bolded part. I have to disagree about the state of Michael's health. If he'd been perfectly fit, AEG would have stood to make a LOT of money. I think they probably never felt that he would be able to do the concerts, but they'd done the math if he'd DIED. This is key to investigations here. There are some photos where we can see how incredibly thin he was. There was also that "missing" video where he said he had to gain weight and didn't know how he'd do it.
When the AEG folks had their serious talks with Michael about the concert residency in London, he was in a wheelchair! He had not performed a full show in over twelve years. It simply was not good business sense to sign him up, unless they had another agenda.
I do appreciate your posts, but connecting this up with other conspiracies really does muddy the water about the death of someone we all loved. Said with all due respect. . .
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You Know You confuse me. This whole Forum is full of the names of people "ALIVE" and discussed like they are nobodies and could shut it down in a heart-beat but that doesnt seem to be a problem and the mention of a Dead person name makes Mud ? Especially one who is said to have LIED on Michael and was on the take and maybe since he thought he was in with the big dogs could even ask for more money after Michaels Death or spill the beans (speculation) and ends up dead Suicide or whatever. But two things do bother me and the first being this continued discussion of "Michael not being able to do these concerts" and second these post being drilled about "Michael being too thin" now the last time I checked both had been beaten like a dead horse and though not Official its already UnOfficial stated everywhere "Michael Jackson was Healthy and had NO Life Threaten Issues" but the same people continue to post these post so I see Mud too I guess a whole page of 20 year old newspaper clips didnt do the job, but since this is a " HEAVY SPECULATION FORUM" I am not about to be the one to monitor this type of behavior I just let speculation be speculation but I guess certain things are allowed to be speculated even though both have been proved to be Lies. I dont know Im not in the Loop maybe you can explain this to me.
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I just don't see a connection between Evan Chandler's death and the current conspiracy, which is what we're primarily investigating here. I'm not saying that other events in Michael's life don't contribute to what I really do believe was a conspiracy that led to his death. I can't get a handle on why Evan's death would be related, though? If anyone is going to spill, it would be Jordan. . and he's still alive.
That there were corporate motives that led to Michael's death. . . is obvious to me now, for sure. I think it's highly possible that Jordie's accusation was related to a plot to get ATV. But. . . . Jordie is still HERE, and it was unlikely that Evan would "spill," if he hadn't done so already? Those accusations were made almost twenty years ago. . . . . . .
But sure, investigate anything you want here. "Heavy speculation" is fine. I'm just expressing my opinion that Evan's death was, most likely, not related.
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Well, one possible way I thought Evan's death could be connected, was he found a way to try to extort the "other side" for money. Give me another pay day or I am going to spill the beans on everything. "They" found it easier to get rid of him than to pay for his silence.
Not saying that is what happened but it is a possibility.
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Whoisit you are optimistic and I like that! I pray you are right.
The more people know how Mike really died,the more likely is for someone to talk.
And yes,there are too many people out there who know the whole truth.
Mind you all who know the truth about Michael's death, you are not safe from each other.
The more people know how Mike really died,the more likely is for someone to talk.
And yes,there are too many people out there who know the whole truth.
Mind you all who know the truth about Michael's death, you are not safe from each other.
Autumn II
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Well, I'm certainly not totally ruling it out. I'm not ruling out anything, at the moment. It's possible, but he also was reported to have terminal cancer and killed himself. So. . . dunno, about that one.