The Official 'Michael' Bio-Pic Thread

Predictions and guesses on how much the film will make is just talk. Once the movie is released the world will let everyone know what they think and feel about Michael Jackson. My prediction for what it’s worth is people will show up for the 👑.wait and see
I think word of mouth, if this is as genuinely good as it looks, will make it explode

When this was announced, most fans reacted the same way. It's not possible to play MJ. Jaafar has done such a good job people are trying to point holes in the fact he wore slightly different socks :ROFLMAO:
 
Means absolutely nothing, but Letterboxd (that film review app thing) has a listing for "Untitled Michael Sequel".

Not sure where the listings come from, but this might be the first of the sequel bubbling up with rumours it'd become clear soon.
 
I had referred to the premiere, which would need some planning to arrange attendance from all over the world. And to the impression that was indicated in other posts, that there is better access to events from Germany than from other countries.
I don't want to react to unfriendly statements like this though, please rethink your choice of words in future.
My big respect to everyone who won tickets in different countries just now and are flexible enough to arrange their trip within this short time. 👌
I don't know what you mean. Choice of words is perfectly alright. You are overtly sensitive. There are no tickets being sold for the premiere. You have to win them, still time to sign up. Regular tickets will come up in due time, most likely a week before the viewing. No need to buy tickets earlier. Tickets for the fan events are available via AXS.com: https://www.axs.com/uk/series/32188/michael-global-fan-celebration-berlin-germany-tickets
 
I don't know what you mean. Choice of words is perfectly alright. You are overtly sensitive. There are no tickets being sold for the premiere. You have to win them, still time to sign up. Regular tickets will come up in due time, most likely a week before the viewing. No need to buy tickets earlier. Tickets for the fan events are available via AXS.com: https://www.axs.com/uk/series/32188/michael-global-fan-celebration-berlin-germany-tickets
The problem is still, that if you win tickets you have to be very flexible to go there. They could have started the ticket lottery some weeks earlier.

From my POV: I was thinking about going to the premiere because I could travel to Berlin pretty easily but I didn't find any final info if you could only win tickets or if there would also be some tickets you could buy. I think that's what @squirrelinthetree means. There was no clear info like "we will not sell any tickets, it's only possible to attend the event if you win them".
 
The problem is still, that if you win tickets you have to be very flexible to go there. They could have started the ticket lottery some weeks earlier.

From my POV: I was thinking about going to the premiere because I could travel to Berlin pretty easily but I didn't find any final info if you could only win tickets or if there would also be some tickets you could buy. I think that's what @squirrelinthetree means. There was no clear info like "we will not sell any tickets, it's only possible to attend the event if you win them".
So far every single person I am in contact with and wanted to go to the premiere, is going to the premiere and there have been many opportunities to apply for it. The movie is running on (iirc) 14 rooms simultaneously and other smaller scale events are planned in other countries. The lottery option at mid to the end of March was in my opinion the optimal solution.
 
So far every single person I am in contact with and wanted to go to the premiere, is going to the premiere and there have been many opportunities to apply for it. The movie is running on (iirc) 14 rooms simultaneously and other smaller scale events are planned in other countries. The lottery option at mid to the end of March was in my opinion the optimal solution.
I can only speak for myself and for me it's too spontaneous. Mainly because of the train tickets (they get pretty pricey when you don't book weeks in advance) and work. I would have to plan that like 4-5 weeks before going there and I think when people have responsibility for kids/pets/at work/whatever it's similar. Especially when you travel to Berlin from a different country.

Doesn't mean the lottery wasn't a good idea, just my POV. And it's cool that apparently many people get the chance to go there.
 
The problem is still, that if you win tickets you have to be very flexible to go there. They could have started the ticket lottery some weeks earlier.

From my POV: I was thinking about going to the premiere because I could travel to Berlin pretty easily but I didn't find any final info if you could only win tickets or if there would also be some tickets you could buy. I think that's what @squirrelinthetree means. There was no clear info like "we will not sell any tickets, it's only possible to attend the event if you win them".
No. They won't sell them. But they also say that tickets need to be picked up 20 minutes before the start of the movie. So I'm assuming they might give away any unclaimed tickets last minute. Of course, that's a risk and absolutely not ideal, if you are coming from far.
 
A biopic about a musician with zero of his music makes zero sense.
I did say that's where people are going wrong.

A biopic does not need music.

It just doesn't.

Maybe there's people who don't like rap music, but they watch Straight Outta Compton because they want to understand the culture and the artists involved? They want to understand the people and their lifestyle, without being subjected to obnoxious rapping every 5 minutes.

Same thing with this movie.

Again: a biopic is not musical entertainment.

They're different.

I think that's just a fundamental misunderstanding lots of people on this board have.

Those are the unofficial ones.
Yes. And the best biopics are always unofficial, because they're free to tell the story honestly without always trying to portray the subject in a positive light.

Again, the point of a biopic isn't to turn Michael into a hero.

The estate can not make a movie that touches this accusation and settlement,
That's why it needs to say "the estate didn't make this".

It is their movie. And they are forbidden to do that per the settlement.
So this is an actual example of where artistic freedom has been limited, and integrity has been taken away - ie the estate's involvement literally makes the film worse.

Personally I dont care how much the movie makes in its first weekend. Doesn't matter if it makes $100 or $100 million, as long as it's a GOOD MOVIE
Exactly.

The quality of the movie is the only thing that counts. Not the critic score. Not the popularity. Not the size of Branca's bank account.

People are worshipping the wrong thing.

This movie has to be a good film that pleases critics/audeinces and not just die-hard fans like us. It needs to tell the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it may be for some of y'all.
Hear hear.

Tons of critics automatically dismissed the Broadway show just on the grounds that it barely addressed the allegations. It was like the actual show itself didnt matter, it was just labelled MJ propaganda from the start. These films CAN'T repeat that.
Yep. It's hard to take the stage show seriously. The movie is absolutely impossible to take seriously because it glosses over some of the most interesting and unusual aspects of the subject matter.

To answer your question, yes I will be disappointed if it makes less.
So here's the thing.

I went to see Hail Mary on Sunday.

I liked it.

So now the question: am I a bad person if I go to watch it again? Will you hate me if I tell my friends to watch it? Will I be banned from this board because I contributed money to the Hail Mary box office profits and potentially prevented "Michael" from taking its rightful place as the biggest grossing movie of the year? Am I insulting MJ's legacy? Maybe I need to stop going to the cinema altogether, just in case another movie gets too popular?

Consider your answer carefully.
 
Personally I dont care how much the movie makes in its first weekend. Doesn't matter if it makes $100 or $100 million, as long as it's a GOOD MOVIE (and not just 100% fluff)

My main concern is that Paris' prediction about the movie being nothing but fan-pandering propaganda is true. This movie (and especially the sequel, if there is one), above all else, has to be a good film that pleases critics/audeinces and not just die-hard fans like us. It needs to tell the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it may be for some of y'all.

Tons of critics automatically dismissed the Broadway show just on the grounds that it barely addressed the allegations. It was like the actual show itself didnt matter, it was just labelled MJ propaganda from the start. These films CAN'T repeat that.
I think we pretty much established this is gonna be American Dream with a bigger budget. So no need to stress about that.
 
Yes. And the best biopics are always unofficial, because they're free to tell the story honestly without always trying to portray the subject in a positive light.

Again, the point of a biopic isn't to turn Michael into a hero.
Have you seen Michael's unofficial ones??? They are trash. Now it's time for an official one.


That's why it needs to say "the estate didn't make this".
But the estate did make it.


So this is an actual example of where artistic freedom has been limited, and integrity has been taken away - ie the estate's involvement literally makes the film worse.
Apparently they stop in 1988. So no integrity has been taken away. Maybe you just wait until you've seen the movie, before shitting on it.
 
I've watched 3 interviews with the cast and director. They all say this movie takes place from Michael's childhood to early parts of his solo career. This movie shows you how lonely Michael was.
 
Anyone who fails to "fundamentally misunderstand" the importance of the box office and the reason why it's been a constant topic of discussion in here isn't very bright.

Also, given that Brian (and possibly Roger) from Queen got to see the film recently... what are the chances that Malek could appear very briefly as Freddie? Unlikely, but not beyond the realms of possibility. That's not something they'd put in the trailers, like.
 
The problem is still, that if you win tickets you have to be very flexible to go there. They could have started the ticket lottery some weeks earlier.

From my POV: I was thinking about going to the premiere because I could travel to Berlin pretty easily but I didn't find any final info if you could only win tickets or if there would also be some tickets you could buy. I think that's what @squirrelinthetree means. There was no clear info like "we will not sell any tickets, it's only possible to attend the event if you win them".
Thank you, yes I meant that. plus, I had neither seen any lottery nor announcement of ticket sales for ppl from Germany until the time of that first posting.
So far every single person I am in contact with and wanted to go to the premiere, is going to the premiere
Great to hear that many people got lucky!
Clearly there are also people who didn't (at least as of now, e.g. me).
and there have been many opportunities to apply for it.
The lottery option at mid to the end of March was in my opinion the optimal solution.
My impression was that there were few, maybe different amounts of options per country and at different times. Besides the one international option, I found two lotteries for people from Germany and those were on the 27th and 29th, one week after I saw options restricted to other countries.
I don't want to complain, but point out how the situation differs by location-based availability.
I don't know what you mean. Choice of words is perfectly alright. You are overtly sensitive.
Even when there is no derogatory language and it is common for chats to be very tough, I still wish to point out that I do not enjoy if me or my statements are being dismissed as "ridiculous" or "overly sensitive".
 
I do feel that some fans have overestimated this film’s potential success at the box office.

I keep seeing comments like easy billion and it will be the highest grossing biopic ever. Michael Jackson is much more famous than Queen etc.

Are people not aware that Bohemian Rhapsody was a phenomenon, a lighting bolt pre-Covid and it was never expected to reach so many people and make as much as it did? Biopics don’t usually do all that great.

Bohemian Rhapsody seems to be the benchmark cause of who produced it and how much it made.

I said it before but this film is not making a billion. It’s not got enough hype I’m afraid outside the fandom and also due to Michael’s controversies.
It will make billion cuz theres interest in it
 
Take with a pinch of salt

"a real crowdpleaser that’s good… but not quite great."
Shocker

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I did say that's where people are going wrong.

A biopic does not need music.

It just doesn't.

Maybe there's people who don't like rap music, but they watch Straight Outta Compton because they want to understand the culture and the artists involved? They want to understand the people and their lifestyle, without being subjected to obnoxious rapping every 5 minutes.

Same thing with this movie.

Again: a biopic is not musical entertainment.

They're different.

I think that's just a fundamental misunderstanding lots of people on this board have.


Yes. And the best biopics are always unofficial, because they're free to tell the story honestly without always trying to portray the subject in a positive light.

Again, the point of a biopic isn't to turn Michael into a hero.


That's why it needs to say "the estate didn't make this".


So this is an actual example of where artistic freedom has been limited, and integrity has been taken away - ie the estate's involvement literally makes the film worse.


Exactly.

The quality of the movie is the only thing that counts. Not the critic score. Not the popularity. Not the size of Branca's bank account.

People are worshipping the wrong thing.


Hear hear.


Yep. It's hard to take the stage show seriously. The movie is absolutely impossible to take seriously because it glosses over some of the most interesting and unusual aspects of the subject matter.


So here's the thing.

I went to see Hail Mary on Sunday.

I liked it.

So now the question: am I a bad person if I go to watch it again? Will you hate me if I tell my friends to watch it? Will I be banned from this board because I contributed money to the Hail Mary box office profits and potentially prevented "Michael" from taking its rightful place as the biggest grossing movie of the year? Am I insulting MJ's legacy? Maybe I need to stop going to the cinema altogether, just in case another movie gets too popular?

Consider your answer carefully.
Why are you being so pesimistic about the movie? Let the others be excited on seeing the movie when it releases.
Have you seen Michael's unofficial ones??? They are trash. Now it's time for an official one.



But the estate did make it.



Apparently they stop in 1988. So no integrity has been taken away. Maybe you just wait until you've seen the movie, before shitting on it.
Totally agree with you on this
 
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