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The Resurrection of Michael Jackson - Music Monthly

The article is a positive look at michael, The photographs help too as they show him enjoying his life.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
well ive seen him crop us constantly lately giving interviews to the press about his "relationship" with mj . imho its no coincedence. as i said real friends such as mark lester dont go to the press every two minutes giving interviews and talking about his "friendship" he may have a business etc but no one knows who he is outside of his own neighbourhood so not sure why that matters.



not really.he worked for uri geller for a few days back in 02 cause of the whole exeter thing.never worked for mj again on his trips.

like i said alot of fans have issues with ppl who claim things in releation to mj when if they were real friends they wouldnt be giving interviews in order to promote themselves every 2 minutes.its the old rifing on coat tails and using their 15 mins of fame for the next 10 years.



ppl doubt because theres no evidence other than him working for mj because of geller back in 92 for a couple of days or so. you cant blame ppl cause its not exactly rare for ppl to use mj for their own ends
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Yes i agree there, people do use Mj for their own gain, but not Matt Fiddes, as i stated before he doesnt need to, he is already successful from his businesses.

Also, he has worked with MJ on trips since, fans I know have told me they have seen him in London when MJ is visiting, bodyguarding. He was also spotted entering Marc Lesters house when MJ was there a couple years ago.

Datsymay said:
The first article I ever read about Matt sugested that he was a volunteer body guard for about 2 days. There was never any evidence that he was an official body guard or that he was friend with MJ. He has met MJ doesn't make him friends with MJ. We know that he has met with Jermaine and Tito, but they were invited down to speak to school children about bullying. That doesn't add up to friendship either There is no evidence that MJ has been to Devon. I doubt that Devon would not have known about this visit, esp when matt told them that he was going to invite MJ down, but he never did. Of course he is going to say nice things about MJ, but to be honest, I am uneasy about how often his name has been mentioned in the papers in connection to MJ, It is almost as if he has become MJ's spokes person.
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Tito visited Barnstaple in Devon last week, to see Matt. On the Friday they went and had a meal, after which they went to a nighclub. On the Saturday they went shopping, like friends do. Not once was there any visits to schools im North Devon, and no publicity stops etc. It was a personal visit.
 
Yes i agree there, people do use Mj for their own gain, but not Matt Fiddes, as i stated before he doesnt need to, he is already successful from his businesses.
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as i said im not sure why that mtters. he isnt known outside of his own area and having a business doesnt get u articles in the sun etc.

Also, he has worked with MJ on trips since, fans I know have told me they have seen him in London when MJ is visiting, bodyguarding. He was also spotted entering Marc Lesters house when MJ was there a couple years ago.
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well ive been on every single mj london trip since and have never seen him nor have heard of him being in london and been seen at those said times and have never heard reports about marks house either. so im not inclined to believe that. everything he has done interms of talking to the press to me is just evidence of someone riding mjs coat tails after working for him because of his connection to geller.
 
Now some posters have to squirm for negativity even in very positive remarks towards Michael and, for instance, when some famous or non-famous folks make fun of him, they defend their jokes..
 
Well that makes him a friend of Tito's but not a friend of MJ. Meeting someone a couple of times doesn't translate into friends that's all. I am just worried that this guy is always speaking to the media on MJ's behalf. Most of the articles that quote him are negative towards MJ anyway. MJ doesn't like the media and he won't speak to them I doubt that he wants any friends speaking to the media on his behalf.
 
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I'm looking at this as an intelligent human being, using a sprinkle of deductive reasoning... and coming up with:


Tito Jackson (On numerous occasions) + Jermaine Jackson (On numerous occasions) + Bodyguard for Michael... = Good likelihood of having a relationship with MJ if he says he does. He has no reason to lie about that... and don't give me the 'publicity' line; he's had enough publicity with just Tito and Jermaine.
 
Cartman said:
I'm looking at this as an intelligent human being, using a sprinkle of deductive reasoning... and coming up with:


Tito Jackson (On numerous occasions) + Jermaine Jackson (On numerous occasions) + Bodyguard for Michael... = Good likelihood of having a relationship with MJ if he says he does. He has no reason to lie about that... and don't give me the 'publicity' line; he's had enough publicity with just Tito and Jermaine.
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That is the trouble here. Stacey brown was very friendly with Jermaine and Rebbie, He ended up on tv speaking as the family friend for MJ. When MJ told him to stop, he turned on MJ in the most vicious way. Just because someone is a friend of your brother, it doesn't translate into your friends. Tito's friend is not necessarily MJ's friend.
 
Good likelihood of having a relationship with MJ if he says he does.
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ok i u wanna think like that. but mj is many things if u believe just cause someone says it it must be true

That is the trouble here. Stacey brown was very friendly with Jermaine and Rebbie, He ended up on tv speaking as the family friend for MJ. When MJ told him to stop, he turned on MJ in the most vicious way. Just because someone is a friend of your brother, it doesn't translate into your friends. Tito's friend is not necessarily MJ's friend.
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very true after all the family are hardly the waltons interms of keeping intouch. jerm and tito probably went cause they think fides best buddies with mj cause thats what he told them. fides said mj was coming over to aatend an event with the rest of the family that was supposed to happen last year.that was all over the papers aswell lol
 
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Also, I find that everyone who works for MJ tend to translate their employmnet as friendship. A body guard should not be assuming friendship with MJ. This is how he always get hurt cause employees don't want to let go, they want to stay on as friends.
 
Oh, my God. Why is this paranoia over some positive remarks on Michael made by people outside his family? It's unbelievable, really, instead of focusing on the bright side of things. Not everyone around Michael is trying to make a name out of him, and some of you you can at least give the bodyguard the benefit of the doubt. Being skeptical of everyone around him like that..Why can't we be more optimistic for a change??
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
as i said im not sure why that mtters. he isnt known outside of his own area and having a business doesnt get u articles in the sun etc.



well ive been on every single mj london trip since and have never seen him nor have heard of him being in london and been seen at those said times and have never heard reports about marks house either. so im not inclined to believe that. everything he has done interms of talking to the press to me is just evidence of someone riding mjs coat tails after working for him because of his connection to geller.
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So are you calling me and my friends lairs?
 
especially when they only worked for him for a few days cause of geller and had his class as "security" in exeter
 
elusive moonwalker said:
ok i u wanna think like that. but mj is many things if u believe just cause someone says it it must be true
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there is a line you have to draw. You cant automatically assume everything is bull just because most stuff written about MJ... or suggested about mj IS bull.

You have to use your head and filter the bull from the likely. I'm not saying MJ is definitely friends with him, I'm simply saying that the scenario is more likely; rather than the suggestion that Matt is full of bull, or lying.

Until there is solid evidence to disprove the likelihood that Matt and MJ are acquaintances, then just take it at face value. Its not like Matt has come out and said MJ has a really bad farting problem; he's just said he's friends with the guy etc.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
ok i u wanna think like that. but mj is many things if u believe just cause someone says it it must be true



very true after all the family are hardly the waltons interms of keeping intouch. jerm and tito probably went cause they think fides best buddies with mj cause thats what he told them. fides said mj was coming over to aatend an event with the rest of the family that was supposed to happen last year.that was all over the papers aswell lol
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I remember that. It was reported in the local paper, front page spread. Except that I don't believe he asked MJ first. Most of the time when Tito speak of MJ it appears that he just says thinks. I highly doubt that he speaks to MJ before .:)
 
So are you calling me and my friends lairs?
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im saying im not inclined to believe something unless ive seen it myself as i was on such trips or unless ppl i know and trust have seen it. if u wanna take it that way its upto you.but i have seen no evidence other than 02
 
Until there is solid evidence to disprove the likelihood that Matt and MJ are acquaintances, then just take it at face value. Its not like Matt has come out and said MJ has a really bad farting problem; he's just said he's friends with the guy etc.
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the issue to me is more of a case of supposed friends talking to the press and making a name for themselves. real friends are ppl such as mark lester who have nothing to gain and therfore very few ppl know of his friendship with mj.

Until there is solid evidence to disprove the likelihood that Matt and MJ are acquaintances, then just take it at face value.
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well i take it the otherway when it comes to mj things.
 
Cartman said:
there is a line you have to draw. You cant automatically assume everything is bull just because most stuff written about MJ... or suggested about mj IS bull.

You have to use your head and filter the bull from the likely. I'm not saying MJ is definitely friends with him, I'm simply saying that the scenario is more likely; rather than the suggestion that Matt is full of bull, or lying.

Until there is solid evidence to disprove the likelihood that Matt and MJ are acquaintances, then just take it at face value. Its not like Matt has come out and said MJ has a really bad farting problem; he's just said he's friends with the guy etc.
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This bodyguard has popped up in papers no less than 10 times. I used to read them but I stopped. If you have a friend like MJ who hates the media so much, you do not go to the media andd talk about him constantly. I can almost guess that MJ would not be your friend for very long if he knows you are likely to go to the media and speak about him.^_^
 
In the end no-one really knows apart from Matt and his family and MJ, i have stated my argument (thanks Cartman for the neutral viewpoint) and you guys have stated yours. Lets just agree to disagree. ;-)
 
Datsymay said:
This bodyguard has popped up in papers no less than 10 times. I used to read them but I stopped. If you have a friend like MJ who hates the media so much, you do not go to the media andd talk about him constantly. I can almost guess that MJ would not be your friend for very long if he knows you are likely to go to the media and speak about him.^_^
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I don't think MJ would mind because Matt has never had anything bad to say about MJ.
 
David Guest speaks about MJ in the media.

Janet speaks about MJ in the media.

Donny Osmond speaks about MJ in the media.

just a few examples


in any case... just because there is a quote from someone in the media about mj doesnt mean that person has gone to a newspaper and said... "Hey... print this about MJ"... it means that some reporter has asked them something and they replied.
 
If Matt is truly a friend of MJ's he'd better hope that MJ doesn't find out that he is speaking to the media about him, esp in articles that are unsavoury and unflattering. MJ will drop that friendship before he can count :1;2;3. He should just ask Uri Geller about that.
 
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Cartman said:
David Guest speaks about MJ in the media.

Janet speaks about MJ in the media.

Donny Osmond speaks about MJ in the media.

just a few examples


in any case... just because there is a quote from someone in the media about mj doesnt mean that person has gone to a newspaper and said... "Hey... print this about MJ"... it means that some reporter has asked them something and they replied.
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Michael grew up with these people and they are celebs in their own right. He did not grew up with matt.
 
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Exactly, Cartman.

And I don't think that Londell went to the media to make that statement about NL. The media ran him down to get a statement. And he simply answered their question.
 
Datsymay said:
Michael grew up with these people and they are celebs in thir own right. He did not grew up with matt.
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ohhh right, sure... so... only celebs can be Michael's friends? Only childhood friends are "true" friends?

What about Liz Taylor? She speaks about him in the media also
 
Xscapecp.com said:
I don't think MJ would mind because Matt has never had anything bad to say about MJ.
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I agree, and if he said something negative about him, it would be the same. No one can be his friend but his family, according to some, and he should not consider anyone as friends. Worrying over the possibility of negativity itself is a way to prevent living the present and you get swallowed by the past. Where is the positivity, damn it?
 
Matt gave a full blown interview to his local papers, he gave one to the met and he gave one to the sun He has been in the news constantly, all to do wih his friendship with MJ. Recently he was there again because Tito was staying with him and was buying a house in Devon. How can somebody make a tatement about buying a house when only an offerwas made. I doubt MJ wants the world to know where he is planning to buy his next house, but it was all over the news, not this wretched article.
 
Cartman said:
ohhh right, sure... so... only celebs can be Michael's friends? Only childhood friends are "true" friends?

What about Liz Taylor? She speaks about him in the media also
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I did not say that. I said these people were celebs that you are comparing with Matt. They were not likely to be using his name to be famous now are they?:)
 
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Datsymay said:
If Matt is truly a friend of MJ's he'd better hope that MJ doesn't find out that he is speaking to the media about him, esp in articles that are unsavoury and unflattering. MJ wiull drop that friendship before he can count :1;2;3. He should just ask Uri Geller about that.
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The point is, his comments were positive and saved that article, Michael wouldn't be upset about positive comments, not even the negativity bothers him these days, since he ignores it. And there is more to him than dropping friendships in a heartbeat, we should know that by now.

There is too much skepticism and panic over nothing, really.
 
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