This Is It - Your Analysis

[daisy]

Yes but it should also carry facts to be an investigation should it not? Or are you saying this whole forum is full of speculators? plus this thread is entitled This Is It -YOUR Analysis and I am giving mine. Now think its time you re thinked things, I have already agreed to disagree, I have also stumped you in you're tracks numberous times where you make claims like me repeating info about the bad tour and BJ Jacket yet you dont back up you're claims.

You also mislead people on what Michael said on the Cherry picker on this is it, there are new people joining the forum all the time and reading something like that, posting plain lies is not speculation.

OK, I just said a small thing and you jump on me. Shouldn't have knowing you're previous reactions.

I've given my opinion on your arguments about BJ jacket and Bad tour and in return you repeated yourself.

Now you accusing me I'm lying, which is a heavy accusation.
I watched the scene again and I would still say Michael did not feel comfortable with Kenny partonising him, and this "joke" was one of the signals that something was wrong (among others).

let's just stop that ok?

 

[Birchey]

Well, finally I watched TII movie on DVD and it was the first time I watched it. Tell you the truth I watched it with tears. The first impression about it was like I was watching Michael’s final good bye to everybody, to his family and to his fans. Also it feels like Michael knew that AEG was videotaping him for a reason. This why probably he thanked his brothers and his parents Katherine and Joe and said God bless you. The message to his fans and ppl in general about love 4 years left to save the planet was very impressive too. Looks like he knew that it was very important to say at that moment and probably it is going to be the last chance to say. And it was…. .
Kenny Ortega was acting like a black angel appearing from nowhere with the same sort of evil smile on his face. Definitely he acted like a boss there. From my point of view Michael didn’t control the situation. One moment with ear microphones set clearly indicates it. When Michael took out microphones from his ears he said: I am just adjusting to the situation. And he said it with some sort of sad notes in his voice. Personally I took it like a message, like he was adjusting himself to the WHOLE situation not just to that small issue with ear microphones. The part with Cherry picker was odd too.
Also he was wearing his sun glasses almost all the time like he was hiding his tears. Even when he was singing he was trying to put those damn glasses on like it was very important for him to do. It was very heartbreaking to watch. I do not know if anybody paid attention to that part.
In general I can say that Michael was not ready to perform. He was very thin and very weak. His movements were very different and slow and far away from his famous “signature” movements what all fans used to know before very well. Looks like he had a problem with is hands, he didn't know where to puth them and it never happened before if you compare the rehearsals from HIStory let tour or other tours.

I think he didn’t sing live while Man in the Mirror and Billie Jean rehearsals. I noticed that because at some moments the music and him singing (opening his mouth) were not synchronal. I do not know if anybody could see it?
Also, I believe that in Smooth Criminal part of the movie they used double bodies. I think Joe was right about it but I do not know about which part of the movie he was talking about.
I was expecting to see Stranger in Moscow rehearsals but I guess it was just a rumor that they will add it to DVD.
Now the question is why ppl around Michael didn’t see that something is wrong? I believe AEG ppl knew exactly what they were doing. I can clearly picture a secret business meeting with Kenny, Randy and Frank sitting together and discussing what they have to do now because Michael is not ready to perform. I see it that if he was ready to perform and was healthy he would survive but because he was not in a good shape he had to die because no way that AEG would lose money. I have a strong feeling that there was no chance for Michael to perform in London. The truth is that Michael was framed and he was forced to do those concerts. This part of conspiracy we are already aware of at least at this forum. This all situation is very heartbreaking and sad and after watching this movie I definitely can say that there is crime there behind this death and we have to get an answer. Why?

Okay just a few points so you know.

1. Michael paid for the cameramen, it was his idea to film it
2. Kenny was the directors sometimes directors can be a bit pressing.
3. With The Inner Ears, Michael did not put them back in, he took control there
4. Michaels movements were new, he was trying new steps, he was working on a new style mixed with his old trademark moves, if you watch the DVD Extras you will see Michael moving like crazy in the dance studio
5. The Glasses, very strange to say myself but someone said some people wear them onstage to black things out so they can concentrate on their performance, I also sont think Michael was completely comfident until the Staples centre where he only wore the glasses for shorter times and not much on stage.

I repsect you're opinion, but wanted to put in some key facts and things I have heard just for you to know.

If you watch the special features you will see Michael alot more demanding behind the scenes of what he wants, I they only had a certain amount of time to fit the movie in

 

[Birchey]

OK, I just said a small thing and you jump on me. Shouldn't have knowing you're previous reactions.

I've given my opinion on your arguments about BJ jacket and Bad tour and in return you repeated yourself.

Now you accusing me I'm lying, which is a heavy accusation.
I watched the scene again and I would still say Michael did not feel comfortable with Kenny partonising him, and this "joke" was one of the signals that something was wrong (among others).

let's just stop that ok?

No seriously you said this about me mentioning the Bad Tour Rehearsals and BJ Jacket

Nothing new, we were told this.

Birchey, you need to read more threads here, because we are repeating ourselves.

And I told you to show me where you were told it, cuz I have never seen it mentioned the stuff about the BJ Jacket was sent in a private email to my friend. Is this not lieing? I can keep repeating myself until you answer because you have told me you you were told this but not by who? This sums up you're entire out look on the film and Michael in the last few months, faceless sources, someone said this, I cant find the quote. thats how most hoaxers work.

 

[daisy]

No seriously you said this about me mentioning the Bad Tour Rehearsals and BJ Jacket

And I told you to show me where you were told it, cuz I have never seen it mentioned the stuff about the BJ Jacket was sent in a private email to my friend. Is this not lieing?

No, it was me not cutting the quote in the right place.

I wanted to say that I need to repeat things that have already been said about the TII not being prepared plus Michael not being able, cause there are a lot of comments that have already been posted in this and several other threads, and I was referring to this, not specifically to BJ jacket and Bad tour.
That's why I also expressed my opinion on these two arguments.

I think that particular issue was a misunderstanding because we reffered to two other things. OK?

 

[daisy]

deleted - nevermind....

 

[Autumn II]

I have one thing to say and I'll leave this thread to the Happy-lala promoters,

When Follower Fans came in looking for support in finding the truth in regards to what they saw themselves firsthand, many people set them off to the side and ignored what they were saying because all they were armed with was simply their intuitions, suspicions, concerns and common sense. Their information couldn't be backed up because the world was given an "Official" candyland image of what was going on during the time of TII, so feeling inadequate they (FF) left as their concerns and warnings went unheard, scrutinized and ignored...and then 6/25 happened.

I wasn't here during the confrontation of the follower fans and the other fans but I have read an entire thread that realized its worst fears.

Some people never learn from the past.

Peace.

Absolutely. I WAS here during that confrontation, and it was incredibly brutal. Michael would have been ashamed of those who attacked those "follower" fans. I'm sure of it. They were trying to HELP him, and they were brutalized and shoved away. And then Michael died. . . . . just as they had feared.

I see we have "a problem" again, and again I'll say, "ignore it."

The follower fans were abused by other FANS. Those other fans said Michael "couldn't possibly be in any sort of difficulty and was in the best shape of his life." The Follower Fans said he was not, and were afraid he would die. Then he died. So then those other fans come back and say, "It wasn't being thin that killed him." It's a little more complicated than that? If he was not in good enough shape to do the concerts, then he truly was worth more dead than alive. You'd have to read through a lot of material here to see how that conclusion was arrived at, though.

Now, we have a situation where Michael was "perfectly fine, healthy, energetic," but incredibly, he died. Sorry, but if any of what has been said in the media is true, then a person simply does NOT take a general anesthetic for six freakin' WEEKS and yet be "concert ready." That makes absolutely no sense.

Yes, this is a forum full of "speculators." If that makes anyone else uncomfortable, I'd respectfully ask them to leave, for their own sakes and comfort. If they do not leave, then I suggest they read the guidelines of the forum carefully. They are quite specific, and additional to the general rules of MJJC. Thank you.

 

[daisy]

Absolutely. I WAS here during that confrontation, and it was incredibly brutal. Michael would have been ashamed of those who attacked those "follower" fans. I'm sure of it. They were trying to HELP him, and they were brutalized and shoved away. And then Michael died. . . . . just as they had feared.

I see we have "a problem" again, and again I'll say, "ignore it."

The follower fans were abused by other FANS. Those other fans said Michael "couldn't possibly be in any sort of difficulty and was in the best shape of his life." The Follower Fans said he was not, and were afraid he would die. Then he died. So then those other fans come back and say, "It wasn't being thin that killed him." It's a little more complicated than that? If he was not in good enough shape to do the concerts, then he truly was worth more dead than alive. You'd have to read through a lot of material here to see how that conclusion was arrived at, though.

Now, we have a situation where Michael was "perfectly fine, healthy, energetic," but incredibly, he died. Sorry, but if any of what has been said in the media is true, then a person simply does NOT take a general anesthetic for six freakin' WEEKS and yet be "concert ready." That makes absolutely no sense.

Yes, this is a forum full of "speculators." If that makes anyone else uncomfortable, I'd respectfully ask them to leave, for their own sakes and comfort. If they do not leave, then I suggest they read the guidelines of the forum carefully. They are quite specific, and additional to the general rules of MJJC. Thank you.

You are right Victoria, we should maybe not engage in discussions when it's obvious that they lead nowhere.

MJ7777, I've just seen your post - I absolutely co-sign to that and to above Victoria83's one.

 

[earth child]

I have one thing to say and I'll leave this thread to the Happy-lala promoters,

When Follower Fans came in looking for support in finding the truth in regards to what they saw themselves firsthand, many people set them off to the side and ignored what they were saying because all they were armed with was simply their intuitions, suspicions, concerns and common sense. Their information couldn't be backed up because the world was given an "Official" candyland image of what was going on during the time of TII, so feeling inadequate they (FF) left as their concerns and warnings went unheard, scrutinized and ignored...and then 6/25 happened.

I wasn't here during the confrontation of the follower fans and the other fans but I have read an entire thread that realized its worst fears.

Some people never learn from the past.

Peace.

Bravo!! It is because of the FF that I started taking a closer look!
It is delusional to only believe what you are told, as of course they are going to tell you all was wonderful! Do you really think the power and money involved here is going to tell you the truth?
They are going to tell you two things, what makes them look the best first off. Second, they tell you what you want to hear. That is why you buy into it so easily!
I do not think there is anyone here who would rather believe Michael was in trouble and feeling trapped. That makes my heart sick to be honest. I would much rather believe he was happy and feeling wonderful.
However having taken a closer look at things and doing some research on the players involved, I think I owe it to Michael to look for the truth and not at what makes everything wonderful and happy in my world. I am willing to open my heart to the hurt to get to the truth for him.
If some of you really believe all the BS propaganda that has been dished out, by all means, keep on your rose colored glassed and move along.
You are not going to stop the rest of us from taking a closer look and digging for the truth.
That is what Michael would have wanted us to do and I am going to do it. That pack of business men are liars.
I do not have to explain to any of you why I think that because you don't want to hear it anyway. You are doing just what those guys want you to do, going along with their story because it make you feel better.
I am done here.

 

[Asedora]

Okay just a few points so you know.

1. Michael paid for the cameramen, it was his idea to film it
2. Kenny was the directors sometimes directors can be a bit pressing.
3. With The Inner Ears, Michael did not put them back in, he took control there
4. Michaels movements were new, he was trying new steps, he was working on a new style mixed with his old trademark moves, if you watch the DVD Extras you will see Michael moving like crazy in the dance studio
5. The Glasses, very strange to say myself but someone said some people wear them onstage to black things out so they can concentrate on their performance, I also sont think Michael was completely comfident until the Staples centre where he only wore the glasses for shorter times and not much on stage.

I repsect you're opinion, but wanted to put in some key facts and things I have heard just for you to know.

If you watch the special features you will see Michael alot more demanding behind the scenes of what he wants, I they only had a certain amount of time to fit the movie in

1. I heard that Michael didn't pay for cameramen because he couldn't afford it.
2.Kenny's behavior is odd. He could be more polite. And we saw the best parts. i wonder what we DID NOT see?
3. The situation with Inner Ears just proves once again that Michael was forced to do even little things and he was not controlling anything there.
4.Michael's movements were NOT new imo. He just couldn't do what he used to. This is how I see it.
5.Glasses. have you ever seen him wearing galsses during HISTory tour or other tours reherasals? PPl can assume anything the fact is that he never did it before.

I respect your opinion too but I disagree with you.

 

[triniti]

I have just read this thread...how many similar arguments I was going through. This is nothing new here. I always heared such arguments as...how long were you fan? lol, or you offened Michael or ruin his legacy. None of these things.
I'm not going to convince anyone, because I know it will end like this and not any common conclusions we reach. Do not stop me of, however, to seek the truth, and above all to demand justice for Michael. The most important is what Victoria said. The man died, although he had "the form of an astronaut", as some used to claime. Nobody will convince me that, this is normal.
I supported FF from the very beginning.
The crucial question - Why should I not believe them? Why should I continue to be lied, because someone wants to tell me something. I don't agree to this. What is sad, they continue to be mixed with mud.

I am glad that this forum exists, that I can express my concern, my suspicions, that so many people think the same. Therefore, we will support each other. I want to believe that one day the truth will out.

I have respect for everybody despite misunderstandings.

 

[kasume]

First, like that saying, "The eyes are the windows to the soul."

Personally, I thought he looked fine. Of course he wasn't giving his full out at just rehearsals, he was panting sometimes after dancing which is completley normal (healthy dancers do that). He was completley focused, and noticed the slightest details in his music, so he wasn't impaired by any drugs.

BUT....when I saw a CLOSE UP picture in this video, my mouth dropped and I began to cry.

Poor baby looks REALLY sick. Something about those eyes....It' hard for me not to look at the picture and get tears. It was from his last rehearsal and by something in his eyes, he looks like something is wrong with him....

The photo is at 5:22-5:23



And this was the night when he asked to go to the hospital when he got home....

Or he could just be drowsy???....

 

[xthunderx2]

First, like that saying, "The eyes are the windows to the soul."

Personally, I thought he looked fine. Of course he wasn't giving his full out at just rehearsals, he was panting sometimes after dancing which is completley normal (healthy dancers do that). He was completley focused, and noticed the slightest details in his music, so he wasn't impaired by any drugs.

BUT....when I saw a CLOSE UP picture in this video, my mouth dropped and I began to cry.

Poor baby looks REALLY sick. Something about those eyes....It' hard for me not to look at the picture and get tears. It was from his last rehearsal and by something in his eyes, he looks like something is wrong with him....

The photo is at 5:22-5:23






And this was the night when he asked to go to the hospital when he got home....

Or he could just be drowsy???....

yes Kasume..I agree with you about this picture..Michael looked sick....how THEY could not see I dont know..they really didn't care....it breaks my heart to see Michael like this.

 

[kasume]

But you see, that was the night before. I think there was something was up SPECIFICALLY that night before.

Because he asked to go to the hospital that night and not any other night....or so I've heard so far.

There could be so many causes to those glazed eyes. I honestly doubt it was drugs since he seemed well coordinated and aware. Or his food or drink really could've been spiked with a little something. I'll have to ask a doctor or nurse.

 

[Ashtanga]

I do not think Michael looked sick or "dying" in TII. But for me is the fact that he was not happy. I not feel Michael willing to make the concerts happen. There is a very strange atmosphere in rechearsals. Something was going on behind the scenes. It's what I feel and believe.... :fear:

 

[xthunderx2]

Okay just a few points so you know.

1. Michael paid for the cameramen, it was his idea to film it
2. Kenny was the directors sometimes directors can be a bit pressing.
3. With The Inner Ears, Michael did not put them back in, he took control there
4. Michaels movements were new, he was trying new steps, he was working on a new style mixed with his old trademark moves, if you watch the DVD Extras you will see Michael moving like crazy in the dance studio
5. The Glasses, very strange to say myself but someone said some people wear them onstage to black things out so they can concentrate on their performance, I also sont think Michael was completely comfident until the Staples centre where he only wore the glasses for shorter times and not much on stage.

I repsect you're opinion, but wanted to put in some key facts and things I have heard just for you to know.

If you watch the special features you will see Michael alot more demanding behind the scenes of what he wants, I they only had a certain amount of time to fit the movie in

Birchey..were did you get this information that Michael paid to have TII filmed????...I think you are wrong....unless you have a link to something that backs up your statement. Thanks...

 

[Naturelle]

First, like that saying, "The eyes are the windows to the soul."

Personally, I thought he looked fine. Of course he wasn't giving his full out at just rehearsals, he was panting sometimes after dancing which is completley normal (healthy dancers do that). He was completley focused, and noticed the slightest details in his music, so he wasn't impaired by any drugs.

BUT....when I saw a CLOSE UP picture in this video, my mouth dropped and I began to cry.

Poor baby looks REALLY sick. Something about those eyes....It' hard for me not to look at the picture and get tears. It was from his last rehearsal and by something in his eyes, he looks like something is wrong with him....

The photo is at 5:22-5:23



And this was the night when he asked to go to the hospital when he got home....

Or he could just be drowsy???....

something was not right...

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

I remember hearing Michael paid for some of the camera equipment that was filming him, but majority of the equipment wasn't owned by him, it was AEG paid for. I also remember seeing that photo of Michael from the last day and thought something just didn't look right there, I know I've made prior comments about his weight not being a issue that contributed to June 25th, and I still feel that way. But I will say, although Michael may have been happy at times, It doesn't seem at all that he was 100% comfortable with doing this...Maybe it was concerns over the fact that he was older, and I don't think he was ill, but after the what happened to him earlier in the decade, his body was in a different shape and was just pushed to a limit that perhaps it shouldn't have.


IMO, continuing like he was 100% willing and ready to do this, would be lying to myself, but whatever the cause was, Michael just doesn't seem so comfortable and confident with the situation he was put in.

 

[Naturelle]

I remember hearing Michael paid for some of the camera equipment that was filming him, but majority of the equipment wasn't owned by him, it was AEG paid for. I also remember seeing that photo of Michael from the last day and thought something just didn't look right there, I know I've made prior comments about his weight not being a issue that contributed to June 25th, and I still feel that way. But I will say, although Michael may have been happy at times, It doesn't seem at all that he was 100% comfortable with doing this...Maybe it was concerns over the fact that he was older, and I don't think he was ill, but after the what happened to him earlier in the decade, his body was in a different shape and was just pushed to a limit that perhaps it shouldn't have.


IMO, continuing like he was 100% willing and ready to do this, would be lying to myself, but whatever the cause was, Michael just doesn't seem so comfortable and confident with the situation he was put in.

To me and what I have read on this fourm, Micheal was PISSED!!! Him being older has nothing to do with it. Anyone who takes good care of themselves at 50 in gernally good health could do the the tour, maybe not full out be if all things were going Michael's way, as been in his previous years, him being in control of the entire project, shows would have happened. But considering certain circumstances, ie ppl; it's if he was put into an uncompromising situation and the powers that be had the best of him..He wasn't happy about it.
I dunno... It all makes me sad and I cry hostile work environment...maybe Joe has a point with the wrongful death? I dunno. and all this breaks my heart.

 

[Naturelle]

That picture i going to be ingrained in my head forever.

 

[mj_forever]

First, like that saying, "The eyes are the windows to the soul."

Personally, I thought he looked fine. Of course he wasn't giving his full out at just rehearsals, he was panting sometimes after dancing which is completley normal (healthy dancers do that). He was completley focused, and noticed the slightest details in his music, so he wasn't impaired by any drugs.

BUT....when I saw a CLOSE UP picture in this video, my mouth dropped and I began to cry.

Poor baby looks REALLY sick. Something about those eyes....It' hard for me not to look at the picture and get tears. It was from his last rehearsal and by something in his eyes, he looks like something is wrong with him....

The photo is at 5:22-5:23



And this was the night when he asked to go to the hospital when he got home....

Or he could just be drowsy???....

the video is blocked in my country. any chance of a screenshot, please? thanks in advance.

 

[kasume]

To me and what I have read on this fourm, Micheal was PISSED!!!

But considering certain circumstances, ie ppl; it's if he was put into an uncompromising situation and the powers that be had the best of him..He wasn't happy about it.
I dunno... It all makes me sad and I cry hostile work environment...maybe Joe has a point with the wrongful death? I dunno. and all this breaks my heart.

I thought of that also. During the weeks leading up, fans said it was so hard to get to him. Maybe the walls were really closing in from all sides.

We know Thome built a fence around Michael, pushing away even his closest friends.

Sometimes I wonder if DiLeo, AEG, Branca were all part of this fence that Thome set up. I've heard fans say that DiLeo is the bad guy in all this and Thome is the good guy. And there are those who believe the opposite. And lastly, there are those who believe they both are bad.

For Thome, it's clear as day that he's rotten. Michael spoke about him over phone.

As for DiLeo, not enough information or clues have spurred up to place him in the same light as Thome. Well, there's his refusal to even talk about Thome, and his contradictions of when he got Murray's number, his wrong timeline of the ambulance, but that's it.

But there is a possibilty that Thome and DiLeo may have been working in this together. IF they were working together, they would have to pretend not to know each other, or at least not be close acquintances.

Remember, Thome and DiLeo were BOTH at the conference with Jermaine. Why did DiLeo allow Thome to go up there? Why did he not stop him and say hey, you've been done with Michael weeks ago?

 

[Naturelle]

^^^ Yes, "Thome is rotten" he looks mean and capable of anything devious. Wasn't Dileo the one who alerted the family? I have a strong feeling they both are in it.

It' too bad we as fans could not help in any way. But as you said, Thome built a wall around Michael to hide something. This has been on my mind all night. I couldn't sleep thinking about what Michael said, "they are trying to posion me". If anyone would know this it would be Michael.

 

[kasume]

What did DiLeo alert the family of?

It' too bad we as fans could not help in any way. But as you said, Thome built a wall around Michael to hide something. This has been on my mind all night. I couldn't sleep thinking about what Michael said, "they are trying to posion me". If anyone would know this it would be Michael.

It's not our fault that we were not able to stop this. We had NO IDEA of how deep all this really was, and of what was going on behind scenes with Branca being rehired, and Murray working for Michael, and Michael being afraid of Thome. We didn't know all that, so it's not fair to say that we were not able to stop what happened that night of the 24th. I bet things were being done in secrecy that even Michael didn't know himself.

But NOW WE KNOW much more than we need, yes, it's late, but Michael's justice is something we must get. The truth of this murder must be revealed.

 

[ivy]

Remember, Thome and DiLeo were BOTH at the conference with Jermaine. Why did DiLeo allow Thome to go up there? Why did he not stop him and say hey, you've been done with Michael weeks ago?

I don't like Tohme a bit let me say it first.

That was the moment that Michael died. His death is far more important than arguing about who is hired or not IMO. In a moment like that people (with emotion) might be much more invested in mourning and sadness than practicing authority.

 

[kasume]

That video is gone now. It was taken down by Sony.

Oh well, at least we have the most important thing.

 

[The Healer]

It is pretty hard and confusing to follow all these things...who hired who and when and when certain ppl were fired and why. There were fishy business around Michael for many years. I remember that the first time I have noticed Thome"s name was when he denied rumors that Michael was ill....and that was 6 months before TII.
Aura around TII is dark...so many ppl feel that. Some ppl are actually afraid to admit it because it may feel like betraying Michael. I personaly feel discomfort by saying it...but Michael did not seem like himself in the movie. I felt his strugle.
That is why I have seen it only once on my DVD. And that is so strange because I watch his other videos every day. They were exploating him with no shame. Someone once said that Ortega looked like a dark angel around Michael. I can only imagine what was going behind the scene.....
If things were so great we would have Michael here today.

 

[kasume]

I'm 50/50. Michael looked great in TII!! (Not counting that photo of the night before)

Some are saying Michael did not seem like himself or Michael wasn't healthy. I would like for them to point out the specific areas where they noticed something odd so I can go take a look at it.

The only thing I have seen so far that I don't like is that photo I posted from the night before. And something was wrong that specific night, or else Michael wouldn't have asked to be taken to the hospital when he got home......

I wonder if someone spiked his drink or food that day/night of the 24th......

 

[mj_forever]

That video is gone now. It was taken down by Sony.

Oh well, at least we have the most important thing.

thank you, kasume...this is TDCAU, right? i notice he has no eye make-up, maybe it makes a difference. but this pretty much is how i saw him in the movie. TDCAU was sort of military with all the marching and all, plus its message, and he was mostly looking serious throughout the song...until he gave that final big smile at the end.

 

[Gaiaschild]

First, like that saying, "The eyes are the windows to the soul."

Personally, I thought he looked fine. Of course he wasn't giving his full out at just rehearsals, he was panting sometimes after dancing which is completley normal (healthy dancers do that). He was completley focused, and noticed the slightest details in his music, so he wasn't impaired by any drugs.

BUT....when I saw a CLOSE UP picture in this video, my mouth dropped and I began to cry.

Poor baby looks REALLY sick. Something about those eyes....It' hard for me not to look at the picture and get tears. It was from his last rehearsal and by something in his eyes, he looks like something is wrong with him....

The photo is at 5:22-5:23



And this was the night when he asked to go to the hospital when he got home....

Or he could just be drowsy???....

Did anyone get that video downloaded because it says it has been removed by Sony, that was quick...

 

[The Healer]

I'm 50/50. Michael looked great in TII!! (Not counting that photo of the night before)

Some are saying Michael did not seem like himself or Michael wasn't healthy. I would like for them to point out the specific areas where they noticed something odd so I can go take a look at it.

The only thing I have seen so far that I don't like is that photo I posted from the night before. And something was wrong that specific night, or else Michael wouldn't have asked to be taken to the hospital when he got home......

I wonder if someone spiked his drink or food that day/night of the 24th......

He did look wonderful...he always did.IMHO too thin. But that was discussed milion times by now.
I wonder will we ever have TII2 because if the best things were put in those 111 minutes...then something is definetly very wrong.
I have noticed that Michael was tired and lost breath after " Beat it "...do you remember ? Maybe that is normal, but it got my atention.
And yes..I remember quite vivid about him not feeling well...and noone cared.
I just can"t understand that.:bugeyed
Why wasn"t he taken to a hospital ?! I think we all know answer to that....:no: