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Thriller 40th Anniversary

I’m not surprised that the more uptempo songs/demos have higher streams. I personally prefer them myself.

the digital formats have all the extras - including the ones from ‘thriller 25’.

I wonder if one of the 4k videos is the Motown 25 performance? I’ve been waiting for that for years 🤩
 
filmandmusic said:
@wonderouzmj Each time I see you perform I notice the same thing, you're really good at spinning the MJ way! Most impersonators do just one spin but you do multiple spins effortlessly, really cool to see.

Good post as well, I especially like your last sentence. How often do you entertain people? Is it always for kids only?
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Well I don't really consider myself as a impersonator. I feel like they go for the look. I'm more into feeling the music & letting it flow through my body with the beat & strings. Sometimes mjs voice is my instrument. I thank you very much for noticing detail🖤🖤🖤. & I do it for everybody. I just did a wedding a few months ago & have a quinceanera coming in January. I'm versatile when it comes to the audiences. I do my best to keep his legacy alive to everyone, fighting & all.
 
83magic said:
I’m not surprised that the more uptempo songs/demos have higher streams. I personally prefer them myself.

the digital formats have all the extras - including the ones from ‘thriller 25’.

I wonder if one of the 4k videos is the Motown 25 performance? I’ve been waiting for that for years 🤩
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Nah...m25 was shot on tape. Have no idea why they didn't think to use film for that show but...its just like dstyge & rwy
 
Hulkamaniac said:
I still can't believe this thumbnail lmao. It's like a meme

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I swear if I didn't know any better.... they're doing this on purpose at this point!
 
MJbr2 said:
The one from his show at The Forum, right? I'm waiting for it!
Jimi's releases have their quality control assured by his Estate (which I believe are his heirs) always letting Eddie Kramer do his job.
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It wasn't always like that. There was a time it was worse than MJ's.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
It wasn't always like that. There was a time it was worse than MJ's.
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Indeed. Can't remember the details but there was def a time when they seemed to block everything. They were allegedly protecting the copyright and the integrity of Jimi's work but my memory is of the family blocking projects that seemed perfectly legit. I can remember wondering if they even understood the first thing about Jimi and his work. Don't know if there's been a change of personnel or what but it does seem to be much better now, thank god.
 
Wtf... what does mj music have to do with this like 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬aaaaaggghhhhh
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wendijane said:
Don't think they are making it about themselves, What you have to remember is Smooth, they are here to represent an artist who valued magical and illusion and who's character was built on privacy, keeping him alive and relevant in the 21st century so that's quite hard for John and team to do in this " in your face" - day and age. Social Media blows the fabric of the true artist art away -It's hard to see Michael Jackson "tweeting"- It looks weird - Do you understand that ? Did you experience the Michael Jackson era before the huge social media input ? Not talking about a few chat rooms and such, I think they are adamant to keep the illusion Michael so very much believed in and i am in the majority here i know , but i congratulate John for now... I appreciate he has not made a "Michael Jackson " tik tok. My OG fan friends would blink.
i would not want that job- It would be hella painful and kind of impossible for 2022 - So, with regards to this fact , I think John is doing okay so far. Ill update and/ or take the praise all back - if i notice if he starts changing his dynamic.
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I can sorta see your point, MJ is spoken of, it adds to the mystique, MJ never wanted to be "interviewed", he liked the anonymity of that, with rare cases.
 
zinniabooklover said:
Indeed. Can't remember the details but there was def a time when they seemed to block everything. They were allegedly protecting the copyright and the integrity of Jimi's work but my memory is of the family blocking projects that seemed perfectly legit. I can remember wondering if they even understood the first thing about Jimi and his work. Don't know if there's been a change of personnel or what but it does seem to be much better now, thank god.
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Before that actually, before the family took over. The ways they stretched his prospective next album material out over the years was quite awful.
 
Dorian said:
His approval didn’t mean much. It was a trash project. Horrible remaster of the album and horrible remixes.

Now we got a better remaster (older) and demos. Yet the execution sucked soo bad.
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Thriller 40 - We can have what we want, but without passion

Thriller 25 - Or we can stick with what nobody wanted but at least....

It didn't have passion either but nostalgia meant I thought it was cool.
 
wendijane said:
Well we will never know unless John Landis speaks about his experience and even so, even though i value John's opinion/storys/ memories ...Its not Michael's.
That's the thing zin , if only, oh ...if only those interviewers and the media when they had their chance to ask about his art would have done that we might be a bit more sure now - they were not interested in the good stuff and now we will always be wondering . Thriller was never in 3D was it ? so Michael maybe didn't agree with that stuff or maybe he did .The question will always remain open.

I really wouldn't want to watch Remember the Time in 4K i know that much. ...ironicly, i would very much like to gawp at it -
I think It is the story line against the beauty , most people will make their choice as the second ..its a double edged sword here.
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I think the standard def versions of the videos should be available still, for the historical value. Beat It 4K is completely gone now, all traces of it. I wanted to find the vintage footage for creative purposes but it's basically scrubbed now. Unless you track down Visions or HIStory on Film, it's now a rarity.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I think the standard def versions of the videos should be available still, for the historical value.
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This. I grew up with the 'old' versions of these short films and, so far, I genuinely don't like the 4K. Make 4K available, for sure. But keep the original versions alongside them. At least give us the choice of which one we want to watch. Most people will go for 4K, I understand that. But, for example, Thriller just looks all kinds of wrong in 4K, imo. It's lost pretty much all of the atmosphere that it had.

Historical / archive value does count. It does mean something. Or it should.

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Beat It 4K is completely gone now, all traces of it.
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That is just wrong. This makes me SO angry. It's not even about my own viewing preferences. Forget that. This is about the historical record. It's about being able to tell or show Michael's story in full. Fine if the original versions are kept in a film archive somewhere. That's great. The problem with that - if they have even done that, who knows? - is that the material is then not easily available to the general public. And it should be. Always.

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Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I wanted to find the vintage footage for creative purposes but it's basically scrubbed now. Unless you track down Visions or HIStory on Film, it's now a rarity.
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jeez!
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I think the standard def versions of the videos should be available still, for the historical value. Beat It 4K is completely gone now, all traces of it. I wanted to find the vintage footage for creative purposes but it's basically scrubbed now. Unless you track down Visions or HIStory on Film, it's now a rarity.
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You can buy the music video DVDs from Amazon US and UK.
 
kai said:
TV shows were usually shot on tape. Just sometimes film was used.
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but why would anybody want Motown Billie Jean in 4K? I mean, have you watched directly from the DVD? It looks crystal clear since it's sourced from the master tape. It won't and can't look any better. But again, why would you want to "enhance" it if it already looks perfectly fine?
 
Who the hell are the anime characters? I was waiting to see if they would somehow be relevant to the video, but… no. They’re just there.

I like it otherwise; it’s far more creative than most lyric videos that come out. But the random unexplained characters take me out.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Who the hell are the anime characters? I was waiting to see if they would somehow be relevant to the video, but… no. They’re just there.

I like it otherwise; it’s far more creative than most lyric videos that come out. But the random unexplained characters take me out.
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I think since the estate guys are old men they thought anime characters are very cool and popular so they asked the fiverr guy to include some cool anime people :D

I'm getting afraid seeing all the positive comments under the video... :O
 
kai said:
I'm getting afraid seeing all the positive comments under the video... :O
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Oh no! no no no no. It will give them all the wrong ideas! @Nite Line it hurts my eyes too, and purple (lavender to be more accurate) is my favourite colour 😲. It ruined purple for me 😡. There is just so much wonderful footage of WBSS, they could have done so much better. But I already expected the worst, so I am ok. I am not going to watch it, thumbnail is enough! ✌️ Peace.
 
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