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Thriller 40th Anniversary

Galactus123 said:
They probably were but Billie Jean video has filters/effects so they might have problems recreating them in HD. I think they should just not include them in the HD version.
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Weird Al recently did the same thing for Eat it. He reuploaded it with the added effects though. Either way, all 3 of these films should have been remastered already.
 
has anyone bought the thriller mofi one step vinyl i have it good collector's item
 
Fuzball said:
Maybe the delay is due to the person working on the BJ remaster got inspired by George Lucas' Special Edition treatment of SW. Expect some additional new vfx & sfx for BJ.
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Unpopular opinion, but some of those changes were justified lol. I've actually never watched the "demastered" original versions though. I think George made sure the masters got hidden somewhere because only the special editions are remastered on Bluray.

Holding out hope that they are just taking their time re editing BJ from scratch. If they really cant find BJ masters then that is really disappointing. Its also odd MJ didnt use the master in moonwalker.
 
Beano Wild said:
did you know that the song commonly known as "Dream Away" is actually called "Dreams Away"? Steve called it that while talking about it in the seminar it got leaked in which you can hear here (along with a remaster of the song through isolating and merging the instruments of the leak).
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Steve could team up with John McClain to polish Chicago 1945 and finish Dreams Away. I bet they both would do them tracks justice.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
Unpopular opinion, but some of those changes were justified lol. I've actually never watched the "demastered" original versions though. I think George made sure the masters got hidden somewhere because only the special editions are remastered on Bluray.

Holding out hope that they are just taking their time re editing BJ from scratch. If they really cant find BJ masters then that is really disappointing. Its also odd MJ didnt use the master in moonwalker.
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It isn't necessarily the changes themselves or whether or not they were justified that most fans have taken issue with, It is the total unavailability and deliberate suppression of the original cuts in any reasonable, modern standard of quality. People just want to be able to see what they originally saw upon release in the same quality that any other film is afforded on home video. Films like Blade Runner and Close Encounters of the Third Kind have multi disc box sets containing their respective films in all available iterations that had ever been released. That's what people want for Star Wars. Every few years George would add even more crap into his movies and then that would become the defacto version from then on, it didn't stop with just the first Special Editions.

I wouldn't worry about Billie Jean. I can't imagine that they wouldn't try to stay as faithful as possible to the original edit of the video.
 
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Mike P. said:
It isn't necessarily the changes themselves or whether or not they were justified that most fans have taken issue with, It is the total unavailability and deliberate suppression of the original cuts in any reasonable, modern standard of quality. People just want to be able to see what they originally saw upon release in the same quality that any other film is afforded on home video. Films like Blade Runner and Close Encounters of the Third Kind have multi disc box sets containing their respective films in all available iterations that had ever been released. That's what people want for Star Wars. Every few years George would add even more crap into his movies and then that would become the defacto version from then on, it didn't stop with just the first Special Editions.

I wouldn't worry about Billie Jean. I can't imagine that they wouldn't try to stay as faithful as possible to the original edit of the video.
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I could go completely off topic with my love/hate relationship with star wars but I wont for the mods sake haha. As far as I know you can only get the original cut on DVD released in 2004.

I just hope they actually have the Billie Jean film to remaster.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
I could go completely off topic with my love/hate relationship with star wars but I wont for the mods sake haha. As far as I know you can only get the original cut on DVD released in 2004.

I just hope they actually have the Billie Jean film to remaster.
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It was 2006, not 2004. The films made their debut on DVD as a box set in 2004 with only the enhanced versions, then in 2006 each film was released as an individual standalone with dumps of the non-anamorphic 1993 laserdisc masters haphazardly thrown in as "bonus material".

I wouldn't see why they wouldn't have the 16mm elements for Billie Jean, especially if it's already been alluded to be getting a new 4K scan.
 
MJbr2 said:
Steve could team up with John McClain to polish Chicago 1945 and finish Dreams Away. I bet they both would do them tracks justice.
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Anyone think 'Dreams Away' could be 'Make a Wish' from the Mexico deposition? The title Steve gives it as sounds like it could be a working title. Maybe Michael renamed it later on after polishing the lyrics?

The opening lyrics are very 'Peter Pan'-esc, maybe something to do with the planned Spielberg film?
 
robotchicken14 said:
Anyone think 'Dreams Away' could be 'Make a Wish' from the Mexico deposition? The title Steve gives it as sounds like it could be a working title. Maybe Michael renamed it later on after polishing the lyrics?

The opening lyrics are very 'Peter Pan'-esc, maybe something to do with the planned Spielberg film?
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It is thought that all songs done for the Peter Pan movie were written and recorded with Buz Kohan, not Porcaro, ‘Make A Wish’ being one of them.

Still, an interesting theory.
 
robotchicken14 said:
Anyone think 'Dreams Away' could be 'Make a Wish' from the Mexico deposition? The title Steve gives it as sounds like it could be a working title. Maybe Michael renamed it later on after polishing the lyrics?

The opening lyrics are very 'Peter Pan'-esc, maybe something to do with the planned Spielberg film?
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“Make a Wish” is a separate song, done with Buz Kohan between 1983-1984! I could absolutely see “Dreams Away” being reworked for a Peter Pan movie though.
 
It was about 17 hours ago that the official MJ Estate released the Official Audio of Thriller 40 on Disc 2 to YouTube in virtual graphics video version
 
analogue said:
I loved this. Quincy is a fantastic producer and a genius in his own right, but Michael was the main driving force behind those three albums and they were his vision, not Quincy's. Quincy did a fantastic job in helping Michael bring his vision to life but Michael was in the drivers seat.
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This x 100. I can’t stand when people diminish MJ’s capabilities as a producer. Especially since the demos for Bad were apparently more or less indistinguishable from the album versions, and Quincy’s contributions were minimal.
 
analogue said:
I loved this. Quincy is a fantastic producer and a genius in his own right, but Michael was the main driving force behind those three albums and they were his vision, not Quincy's. Quincy did a fantastic job in helping Michael bring his vision to life but Michael was in the drivers seat.
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I like how Branca takes positions on issues on his Tik Tok. So far he always gets things straight to the point
 
Robbsaber01 said:
Unpopular opinion, but some of those changes were justified lol. I've actually never watched the "demastered" original versions though. I think George made sure the masters got hidden somewhere because only the special editions are remastered on Bluray.

Holding out hope that they are just taking their time re editing BJ from scratch. If they really cant find BJ masters then that is really disappointing. Its also odd MJ didnt use the master in moonwalker.
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Some of them are ok, visually, but every change to dialogue or story is significantly worse. And the music changes as well are mostly unwarranted. Not to tangent on Star Wars
 
Beano Wild said:
posting chicago along with a snippet of steve talking, thats the last of it. its up to the recorder Lord to decide what to do with the rest of it.

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Well if he did all those takes...why arent thier any background harmonies except the line "chicago" & ad libs unless it's a more complete version out there
 
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